Indian Lok Sabha 2024 : Oath taking Ceremony of Modi-NDA Government. # - Page 122

Originally posted by: NathuPaapi

The problem is - we are no longer tolerant of their intolerance.

My point on liberalism.....hence proved

https://x.com/LeftistLs/status/1801852270738608173?t=XljWxP1Lbg92bRHFKZKw0Q&s=19

Originally posted by: anonymouse1

Remember VYAPAM ghotala? kuchh nhi hua, ministers,govt officials, middlemen sab shamil thay.

Govt chahti nahi ki public ko quality education mile, last decade ke so called education reform dekhlo. Govt schools closed ho rahe aur zameen pvt sectors ko malls, commercial complex banane ke liye allot ho rahi, reputed public schools mein admission lena aam aadmi ke bas ka nhi, plus fees beyond their capacity.

Govt jobs hai nhi, kyunki vacancies nhi nikal rahe, pvt sector contract par rakh rahe vo bhi kam salary par.

Pakoda talo, chai becho naale se gas nikal ke, Govt yahi chahti hai.

Sahi baat

Ya phie whatsapp university ke teacher ban jao

Originally posted by: RamAayeHain

why did locals never protested and were so happy after removal of article 370?

You are so grossly misinformed that I don't even know where to begin. But I definitely would like to enlighten you on your last statement. You either are too naive and take the govt's word for it, or too lazy to even try to find the truth out, or simply prefer to stay in imaginary world created by the narratives controlled by majority.

"Among the Indian government actions accompanying the revocation was the cutting off of communication lines in the Kashmir Valley which was restored after 5 months.[3] Thousands of additional security forces were deployed to curb any uprising.[4] Several leading Kashmiri politicians were taken into custody, including the former chief minister.[5][4] Government officials described these restrictions as designed for preempting violence,[6] and justified the revocation for enabling people of the state to access government programmes such as reservation, right to education and right to information.[7]

The reactions in Kashmir Valley was effectively suppressed through the suspension of communication and with imposition of Curfew"

If ppl were going to be this happy like you claim, govt did not have to take their human rights away for months. It's a lie.

An online article with some good points-

I would like to present some of my counter arguments against the popular view of why Kashmir belongs to India.

1. "Kashmir king Raja Hari Singh joined and seceded to India that's why we've a claim on Kashmir"

In that case, the king of Junagarh wanted to join Pakistan. Why didn't India let Junagarh join Pakistan?

2) "We conducted refrendum in Junagarh and in that refrendum, India won"

First of all, why would someone on a global scale believe India's refrendum? If Pakistan conducts refrendum in POK tomorrow and says Pakistan won in that refrendum. Will you believe it?

3) "We've developed Kashmir more than POK"

If development is the only metric and concern for Indians, then give Arunachal to China. China will develop Arunachal very well.

4) "Kashmir was a part of Hindu civilisation, Kashmir is named on Rishi Kashyap"

In that case - Mizoram, Nagaland, parts of Manipur.

Were never Hindu, they were tribalistic in past. They even hunted heads. Later they converted to Christianity, so if these parts don't belong to Indian civilisation. Are they supposed to be part of India by the Hindu past/present logic?

Originally posted by: Diandraa

You are so grossly misinformed that I don't even know where to begin. But I definitely would like to enlighten you on your last statement. You either are too naive and take the govt's word for it, or too lazy to even try to find the truth out, or simply prefer to stay in imaginary world created by the narratives controlled by majority.

"Among the Indian government actions accompanying the revocation was the cutting off of communication lines in the Kashmir Valley which was restored after 5 months.[3] Thousands of additional security forces were deployed to curb any uprising.[4] Several leading Kashmiri politicians were taken into custody, including the former chief minister.[5][4] Government officials described these restrictions as designed for preempting violence,[6] and justified the revocation for enabling people of the state to access government programmes such as reservation, right to education and right to information.[7]

The reactions in Kashmir Valley was effectively suppressed through the suspension of communication and with imposition of Curfew"

If ppl were going to be this happy like you claim, govt did not have to take their human rights away for months. It's a lie.

I knew this very well actually

Did you missed the point where I said Pakistani militants were living there????

Tell me why after curfew when govt ordered ceasefire no one protested in Kashmir 🤔

Why after election terrorist attacks started in Jammu, Jammu people don't want to live in India now???

And please dear, don't ever refrain from correcting me ever, share sources, share articles, let me know how wrong I am, if I am wrong I will admit

You didn't counter my points yet with proofs, where it is written kashmiri people didn't wanted to be in India, how you'll justify Bangladesh and Pakistan seperation, was kashmir not a disputed land before partition, was India not a disputed land before Britishers. Please tell me how I am misinformed

Do not see me as bjp fan, I admire modiji I will admit to that but for me my country and my culture comes before any of the politicians. So instead of giving me one of those lines ki you're misinformed give me proofs and I will do my own readings on that 🙏

B- ???? What's wrong with that

Originally posted by: RamAayeHain

You didn't counter my points yet with proofs, where it is written kashmiri people didn't wanted to be in India, how you'll justify Bangladesh and Pakistan seperation, was kashmir not a disputed land before partition, was India not a disputed land before Britishers. Please tell me how I am misinformed.

The fact there never was peace in Kashmir after Indian occupation alone is enough to prove Kashmiri ppl never wanted to be part of India.

Indian claims Kashmir for geopolitical and strategical reasons.

I completely justify Pakistan Bangladesh separation as to why bengalis separated, as I understand why kashmiris never wanted to be part of India ever. They preferred an autonomy or being part of Pak.

Originally posted by: Diandraa

An online article with some good points-

I would like to present some of my counter arguments against the popular view of why Kashmir belongs to India.

1. "Kashmir king Raja Hari Singh joined and seceded to India that's why we've a claim on Kashmir"

In that case, the king of Junagarh wanted to join Pakistan. Why didn't India let Junagarh join Pakistan?

2) "We conducted refrendum in Junagarh and in that refrendum, India won"

First of all, why would someone on a global scale believe India's refrendum? If Pakistan conducts refrendum in POK tomorrow and says Pakistan won in that refrendum. Will you believe it?

3) "We've developed Kashmir more than POK"

If development is the only metric and concern for Indians, then give Arunachal to China. China will develop Arunachal very well.

4) "Kashmir was a part of Hindu civilisation, Kashmir is named on Rishi Kashyap"

In that case - Mizoram, Nagaland, parts of Manipur.

Were never Hindu, they were tribalistic in past. They even hunted heads. Later they converted to Christianity, so if these parts don't belong to Indian civilisation. Are they supposed to be part of India by the Hindu past/present logic?

Because of what happened to pak and Bangladesh, when a country is formed on the 2 other sides of one country you can never ensure security of the citizens

I don't even liked partition, its the saddest thing happened but if you're putting out these points then

1. Junagarh referendum --- who on global scale would belive India referendum 😂😂😂 Britishers and Americans are still the "global scale" for people and they only did that so"global scale" had to believe

2. Can china give kailash mountain to us? Or wait are we fighting for it 🤔🤔🤔

3. If you want Indian civilization should consist of Hindu people then I don't know what we're fighting for here 🤔🤔🤔

Originally posted by: Diandraa

The fact there never was peace in Kashmir after Indian occupation alone is enough to prove Kashmiri ppl never wanted to be part of India.

Indian claims Kashmir for geopolitical and strategical reasons.

I completely justify Pakistan Bangladesh separation as to why bengalis separated as I understand why kashmiris never wanted to be part of India ever. They preferred an autonomy or being part of Pak.

Give me proofs please..........

There was never peace anywhere, that's not how justification works

Originally posted by: Diandraa

The fact there never was peace in Kashmir after Indian occupation alone is enough to prove Kashmiri ppl never wanted to be part of India.

Indian claims Kashmir for geopolitical and strategical reasons.

I completely justify Pakistan Bangladesh separation as to why bengalis separated, as I understand why kashmiris never wanted to be part of India ever. They preferred an autonomy or being part of Pak.

B- obviously 🤷🤷🤷

Originally posted by: RamAayeHain

Give me proofs please..........

There was never peace anywhere, that's not how justification works

Proof is everywhere, you need to open up your eyes and mind for it. I have been to Kashmir and kaahmiris openly used to claim they are pakistanis not Indians.

According to this article as you can see for yourself.

"Kashmiri dissidents launched a full-blown armed revolt in 1989, seeking unification with Pakistan or complete independence. Tens of thousands of civilians, rebels and government forces were killed in the raging conflict."

https://apnews.com/article/kashmir-india-omar-abdullah-special-status-831bce5bf968e8d8303131cf4d53193d

Now if you still want to keep on believing kashmiris are happy with India, it would be delusional.