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Posted: 2 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: JackSparrowcraz

Why all newbies are SRK fanbots? MIDs?

You think I am Akshay fan

Poor try.

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I know......the day SRK gives a 2 crore opening......I will also not accept being his fan.....so embarrassing na....smiley19

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Posted: 2 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: myviewprem

Male actors (only bollywood)


Balraj Sahani - Do bighal zameen


Prithviraj kapoor - mughale azam


Sanjeev kapoor - Koshish


Dilip Kumar - Devdas and some other movies


Kamal hassan in Sadma


Amitabh Bachchan in Deewar


Rajesh Khanna in aanand


Manoj Bajpee in Satya


Nana Patekar (cannot remember movie it has a famous bhajan itni shakti hume dena datta)



Female actress


Meena Kumar in Sahib biwi aur ghulam


Nargis Mother india


Madhubala in mughal e azam


Rani and child actor in Black


Jaya Badhuri in Koshish


Rekha in Khoon bhari maang


Amitabh bachchan over acted in Black


Others may be there but i have not watched movies so not included


If i have to include off beat art movie actors this was only main stream bollywood than list is as follows


Male (those who acted as heroes only for sometime atleast 5 to 10 years atleast)


1) Dilip Kumar(because he started natural acting it was over dramatized before, natural acting and many including AB, Sanjeev kumar etc copied him)

2) Amitabh Bachchan

3) Sanjeev Kumar

4) Ashok Kumar

5) Naseerudin Shah

6) Om Puri

7) Manoj Bajpai

8) Balraj Sahani

9) Kamal Hassan

10) Nana Patekar

11) Rajesh Khanna

12) Rajendra Kumar

13) Amol Palekar



Side artist or villans


1) Om Prakash

2) Kanhaiyalal

3) Pran

4) Amjad Khan

5) Amrish Puri

6) Prem Chopra

7) Utpal Dutt

8) Nawazuddin

9) Anupama kher

10) Ashutosh Rana

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Posted: 2 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: RaniPreityAish

The Golden Globes haven't been relevant for a while. They're known as being the awards ceremony where people come just to get drunk and have a good time with little pressure. There have been times where the winners of the Golden Globes (both for musical/comedy and for drama categories) don't match up to the actual Oscar winner at all. I think most of Nolan's popular films like the Batman series or Inception were never going to be the type to win awards anyway, with Heath Ledger's win being an exception. Oppenheimer is probably the closest he'll get to Oscar bait.

thats very helpful to know. Yes superhero movies like Batman and a complicated movie like Inception and Interstellar never stood a chance. Heath Ledger's Joker is a once in a generation performance so yes that was an exception. But he's made amazing movies like The Prestige, Memento and Dunkirk which also surprisingly dont make it to 'greats' conversations. I'm guessing sometimes its the style of a director that connects with some people more than other neutrals. Yes, fingers crossed for Oppenheimer. I feel differently now with the lack of significance of the Golden Globe wins.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: myviewprem


If i have to include off beat art movie actors this was only main stream bollywood than list is as follows


Male (those who acted as heroes only for sometime atleast 5 to 10 years atleast)


1) Dilip Kumar(because he started natural acting it was over dramatized before, natural acting and many including AB, Sanjeev kumar etc copied him)

2) Amitabh Bachchan

3) Sanjeev Kumar

4) Ashok Kumar

5) Naseerudin Shah

6) Om Puri

7) Manoj Bajpai

8) Balraj Sahani

9) Kamal Hassan

10) Nana Patekar

11) Rajesh Khanna

12) Rajendra Kumar

13) Amol Palekar



Side artist or villans


1) Om Prakash

2) Kanhaiyalal

3) Pran

4) Amjad Khan

5) Amrish Puri

6) Prem Chopra

7) Utpal Dutt

8) Nawazuddin

9) Anupama kher

10) Ashutosh Rana

It was more intended to particular performances, but I get your point. It's always a grey area because most of us watch a lot of commercial and mainstream cinema so the crossover comparisons become difficult.

Of all the years of watching movies and mostly from the 90s onwards, if I think of offbeat actors, my favorites are 1) Irrfan Khan 2) Naseeruddin Shah and 3) Pankaj Kapur.


I also find it very hard to compare actors from 90s onwards to the great actors of the 50s 60s 70s because of the difference in roles, technology, kinds of movies etc. Its a great conversation to have though.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#45

A few off the top of my head, not necessarily a top 5.


Meena Kumari in Pakeezah/SBAG/ Yehudi

Konkona in Omkara

Kareena in Talaash

Tabu in Haider/Chandni Bar

Priyanka in Bajirao Mastani

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Posted: 2 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: rickyproctor27

thats very helpful to know. Yes superhero movies like Batman and a complicated movie like Inception never stood a chance. Heath Ledger's Joker is a once in a generation performance so yes that was an exception. But he's mage amazing movies like The Prestige, Memento and Dunkirk which also surprisingly dont make it to 'greats' conversations. I'm guessing sometimes its the style of a director that connects with some people more than other neutrals. Yes, fingers crossed for Oppenheimer. I feel differently now with the lack of significance of the Golden Globe wins.

Heath Ledger's death was also possibly what favored his win as the media reported it as him literally killing himself to play this role. I do wonder, if he had survived, whether they would have awarded him or not. Posthumous wins are very difficult as people predicted Chadwick Boseman would win the Oscar a few years ago, all on the basis of his death rather than his performance, but the Oscar ended up going to Anthony Hopkins in what is considered one of the greatest performances of all time (it's the time of role I could see Amitabh Bachchan remaking). The funny thing about that is that the Academy itself was so certain that Boseman would win that they staged the show to have Best Actor be the final award given, instead of Best Picture as usually occurs, in order to make it a tribute to him. Except he didn't win and Anthony Hopkins wasn't even at the ceremony so it was a real lackluster ending. That's another sign that the Oscars tend to be as rigged as Filmfare. Like last year when they had Halle Berry ready to present the Best Actress Oscar because they knew Michelle Yeoh would win and wanted to have the only two minority winners of the Best Actress award on stage together.


I didn't realize Memento was a Christopher Nolan movie. I've actually never seen it besides knowing that Ghajini was based off of it. The Prestige I always haven't ever watched because I'm not a fan of the cast. Oppenheimer winning at the Golden Globes unfortunately isn't a guarantee it'll win but it doesn't hurt Cillian Murphy's chances either. I didn't watch Oppenheimer before but I'm very tempted to try and get it now since it looks like it's worth watching for him at least.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: rickyproctor27

It was more intended to particular performances, but I get your point. It's always a grey area because most of us watch a lot of commercial and mainstream cinema so the crossover comparisons become difficult.

Of all the years of watching movies and mostly from the 90s onwards, if I think of offbeat actors, my favorites are 1) Irrfan Khan 2) Naseeruddin Shah and 3) Pankaj Kapur.


I also find it very hard to compare actors from 90s onwards to the great actors of the 50s 60s 70s because of the difference in roles, technology, kinds of movies etc. Its a great conversation to have though.

Acting styles are also so different in those earlier eras compared to 90s and now. I haven't seen as many older Indian movies but especially in Hollywood, there's a world of difference between how the actors acted in the 30s-50s to the 70s-onwards. Now the focus is on realistic and natural acting, sometimes to a fault. I feel like Bollywood is the opposite where the 90s was technically a modern era but one characterized by being over-the-topic and theatrical.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: RaniPreityAish

Heath Ledger's death was also possibly what favored his win as the media reported it as him literally killing himself to play this role. I do wonder, if he had survived, whether they would have awarded him or not. Posthumous wins are very difficult as people predicted Chadwick Boseman would win the Oscar a few years ago, all on the basis of his death rather than his performance, but the Oscar ended up going to Anthony Hopkins in what is considered one of the greatest performances of all time (it's the time of role I could see Amitabh Bachchan remaking). The funny thing about that is that the Academy itself was so certain that Boseman would win that they staged the show to have Best Actor be the final award given, instead of Best Picture as usually occurs, in order to make it a tribute to him. Except he didn't win and Anthony Hopkins wasn't even at the ceremony so it was a real lackluster ending. That's another sign that the Oscars tend to be as rigged as Filmfare. Like last year when they had Halle Berry ready to present the Best Actress Oscar because they knew Michelle Yeoh would win and wanted to have the only two minority winners of the Best Actress award on stage together.


I didn't realize Memento was a Christopher Nolan movie. I've actually never seen it besides knowing that Ghajini was based off of it. The Prestige I always haven't ever watched because I'm not a fan of the cast. Oppenheimer winning at the Golden Globes unfortunately isn't a guarantee it'll win but it doesn't hurt Cillian Murphy's chances either. I didn't watch Oppenheimer before but I'm very tempted to try and get it now since it looks like it's worth watching for him at least.

Oppenheimer is terrific. But I'm saying as someone who loved world history and science as a student so it was always that much more attractive because you've read so much about his work growing up that you want to watch the movie. If you want to try it for performance, you won't go wrong. Not just him, Blunt, Downey Jr, Pugh, Damon are all excellent in the movie.

Have they changed the system now at the Oscars? I always thought the previous year's Best Actor gives the award to the Best Actress and previous year's Best Actress gives it to the Best Actor. I remember Meryl Streep giving it to Daniel D Lewis for Lincoln and Jennifer Lawrence to Matthew M for Dallas Buyer's Club.

I haven't watched any award ceremony in the last 10 or so years. Just follow results now. Its more of a game now. Guessing who you think deserves to win, who will win and then some gratification if it turns out. I understand awards may be heavily fixed here as well as Oscars etc but I want to believe there's something good and genuine somewhere. It becomes a sad and pessimistic life when we speak with so much interest and verve about something and then not believe in the integrity of the very thing we are discussing.

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Originally posted by: rickyproctor27

Oppenheimer is terrific. But I'm saying as someone who loved world history and science as a student so it was always that much more attractive because you've read so much about his work growing up that you want to watch the movie. If you want to try it for performance, you won't go wrong. Not just him, Blunt, Downey Jr, Pugh, Damon are all excellent in the movie.

Have they changed the system now at the Oscars? I always thought the previous year's Best Actor gives the award to the Best Actress and previous year's Best Actress gives it to the Best Actor. I remember Meryl Streep giving it to Daniel D Lewis for Lincoln and Jennifer Lawrence to Matthew M for Dallas Buyer's Club.

I haven't watched any award ceremony in the last 10 or so years. Just follow results now. Its more of a game now. Guessing who you think deserves to win, who will win and then some gratification if it turns out. I understand awards may be heavily fixed here as well as Oscars etc but I want to believe there's something good and genuine somewhere. It becomes a sad and pessimistic life when we speak with so much interest and verve about something and then not believe in the integrity of the very thing we are discussing.

I also love world history. What stopped me from going to Oppenheimer earlier was it being conflated with Barbie and also because I didn't want to support a film that may glorify nuclear war and jingoism. But online I've read people say that it does not glorify the US's actions and the film treats the subject like a tragedy. So if that's true, my main hang-up about the film is over with. I'm not a fan of Matt Damon although he's a decent actor. Emily Blunt is also decent although not amazing and never been a favorite of mine. I've heard rave reviews about Downey Jr in the film and I do like Florence Pugh in the few things I've seen with her (her Lady Macbeth movie is amazing).

Yes, usually the previous year's Best Actor gives it to Best Actress and vice-versa. This was changed last year because Will Smith was banned for his infamous slap from attending the ceremony. So he couldn't be there to award this year's Best Actress so they asked Jessica Chastain, last year's Best Actress, and Halle Berry to come together as a duo to award both the Best Actor and Best Actress this year. Many people got annoyed by this because they said it was obvious that the Academy had set up Michelle Yeoh to win the Best Actress race and was trying to show how historic it was that the previous minority winner, Halle Berry, would present the new one with the award. It was a case of the Oscars telegraphing the wins way in advance and this was on top of Michelle Yeoh posting a video putting down the other female nominees, which is considered a serious enough offense that according to Academy rules, her nomination should have been rescinded. But because the Academy's new president is Janet Yang, who made no secret that she was rooting for Everything Everywhere All at Once to sweep the awards and for Asians to be represented, this offense was ignored and Yeoh's nomination was not rescinded. If you watched Cate Blanchett attend the ceremony, like I did, it was obvious even to her that she wasn't going to win her 3rd Oscar. She came very dressed down and in very glum spirits, with a defeated look about her, so even she knew this wasn't her night. Which reminds me a lot of Priyanka saying she came to Filmfare expecting to win for Barfi only to arrive and be told Vidya was winning over her and she was tempted to walk out.

I haven't watched Filmfare in some time. The Oscars I never miss minus the year of the Will Smith slap. Even before that happened, I could tell the show was going to be a disaster so I made sure to skip that one. Glad I didn't give it ratings. I don't think all the awards are invalidated just because of some few exceptions here and there with certain people who had no business winning, and like I said, the fact that Anthony Hopkins did win despite all the campaign against him means that sometimes the true winner will emerge triumphant no matter how much political meddling takes place.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: RaniPreityAish

I haven't watched Filmfare in some time. The Oscars I never miss minus the year of the Will Smith slap. Even before that happened, I could tell the show was going to be a disaster so I made sure to skip that one. Glad I didn't give it ratings. I don't think all the awards are invalidated just because of some few exceptions here and there with certain people who had no business winning, and like I said, the fact that Anthony Hopkins did win despite all the campaign against him means that sometimes the true winner will emerge triumphant no matter how much political meddling takes place.

Yes, very well put. Quite hope re-instating.

Are you happy with the nominations now that they are out? I think we forecasted BA to the tilt where we hadn't picked up enough chatter about Vikrant online to make it to the nominations and it turned out that way. You were right about Deepika for Pathaan.

Gong for 12th Fail and Vinod Chopra for Film and Director but since they are both nominated in Critics as well, Jawan and KJo could win this too.

I want SRK to win for Jawan but have an actual feeling 50% Ranbir might win it considering he's performing at the event. Won't be too disappointed if he or Ranveer or Vicky win too. The Actress and Music category will define Filmfare this year I think. They can play safe with Alia winning Popular and Rani for Critics or go bold/authentic and give Rani popular with Shefali critics or Kiara popular and Rani critics. I want Rani to win popular and Shefali/Saiyami for critics. I know you don't like Alia and I'd like to ask why? but I am never disappointed when she wins as I love her as an actress.

Vicky/Vikrant/Pankaj/Manoj any one will do for BA critics. Vicky was my vote for BSA and he should win. Surprising that Dimple didnt make it (I voted for he in Tu Jhooti) to the nominations so going for Ratna/Jaya there given I was thinking of Jaya in the Negative category. I feel Deepika has lost out on a chance for an award this year as her best shot was BSA for Jawaan. She was great in that role. I think her role in Jawaan was equal in duration to that of Vicky in Dunki so given Vicky got the nomination, I would not have been surprised if she had been nominated as well.

Music I genuinely believe Animal had the best with the background score as well. But have a feeling Pritam might win for RARKPK. Going for Animal for Music, Bhupinder for Arjan Vailly and Shilpa for Chaleya in playback singer categories. Karan Johar's omnipresence around these awards and campaigning is not a good sign for me especially knowing he cares more than anyone else for the validation from these awards. Even today Alia has put her traditional story on Instagram on 12th Fail with glowing praise for the film and the entire team of 12th Fail.

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