Seeing Manjiri's reaction Akshu shouldn't marry[All about Manjari here - Page 10

Originally posted by: Lethamukund

It's good to hear that you love and value your parents the most. And one must always.

It's quite normal to love a fictional character and you get attached to them as you read or watch a story.

Why I watch and read stories is that those characters give you a lot of life lessons, which you may be able to imbibe and apply in real life. I don't watch shows for any actor, and even if I like an actor, I don't agree with all the characters that they play. What I learned from this show, especially S3 is don't be angry and impulsive like Abhimanyu, don't be a controlling parent like Manjari, don't be sacrificial and don't run away from problems like Akshara. Any decision taken out of anger will lead to life long regret, sometimes leads to a loss which you can never recover.

Let me narrate my own experience of a similar tragic event in my life. I was staying alone in a far away state for work, while pregnant and I had a bit of complications. My doctor suggested to take almost care and my husband was almost another part of the country. I decided to continue to stay at my place even after my family asked me otherwise. I had to travel for some urgent work and I fell from train (fainted due to not eating) and had a bad MC. I was devastated, and started feeling guilty for not being careful. My husband and parents, in-laws all rushed from different parts of country and they all stayed with me for 3 months till I recovered. They never made me feel that I made a mistake, but I knew I was wrong. I could sail through the toughest days of my life just because my family stood with me. Having a MC is really really bad, it drains you mentally and physically. And if at that point you are left alone, you may end up in depression and even end yourself. While I watched WD sequence, all those deep down memories triggered and I was so disturbed. Whatever Akshara did thereafter I will not say those will not be as bad and cruel as what Abhimanyu did on WD and immediately after.

Similarly, my. brothers' infant died on the very next day of birth because my SIL slept off while feeding (she was totally exhausted), and no one was around her as her mother and my brother went to pay some bills. Can you imagine the mental stress that mother went through? Both of them were depressed and it took our family a year to bring them to normalcy. In both our cases, families stood with us, and we together sailed through. That's what relations are for.

And each time in the show, Akshara was left alone and she was never made to feel a part of family. That's why I feel and connect to her more. Its very easy to see the story as an outsider, but if you have ever experienced a similar situation, you feel that she should have been held tight by someone (and Abhimanyu claimed he loved her madly). That's when she found Abhinav and he was her last straw of her sinking state and she held on to him. I don't see Akshara as bad in that sense.

Please feel free to disagree

I am happy that you have such a beautiful family and sorry for your loss. If we speak about this drama, a few things need to be considered, when Abhi got to know about Ak's complicated pregnancy, he decided not to have kids, when Ak's pregnancy was announced he was against having the child in case it endangered his wife's life, after Ak ran away to Pathankot, he had 6 years to find next girl and have kids with her so Abhi left Ak because she had a miscarriage is wrong because we have seen him prioterizing her health and life over having kids. Ak had accident in jungle and Abhi saved her and their babies, he begged her not to go anywhere till he returns but circumstances led Ak into another trouble which ended up taking 2 lives. When Abhi got to know about miscarriage, he didn't throw her out of the house, he brought her back was seen giving her medicine and water and asked her to rest in her bedroom. This narrative that miscarriage had anything to do with Abhi's outburst is false. I don't connect to Ak because I am not completely inconsiderate towards people around me. She doesn't get that her actions have consequences,

Originally posted by: Krinya

I hope you don't take offense in this.

No wonder you're supporting manjari bec your thinking is very similar to hers.

A child when he/she grows into an adult has their own ideologies , idea of happiness , thoughts , beliefs and emotions and they're entitled to it....i respect your ideas and beliefs about your parents but forcing them on others and judging them with the same mindset is exactly the root cause of this whole issue.... manjari needs a psychiatrist coz her mamta has turned into an obsession...children Def come through their parents but theyre not puppets to be moulded or controlled for life.... they are an independent life ..that's why the family system in India is breaking apart because within a family too there are boundaries but since they're living the same way for centuries , they refuse to acknowledge.

Manjari can suggest , make her son understand but never impose her beliefs on him ..this is why he's miserable since he got married...not because of akshara...it wasn't Neil's death or his babies death which tipped him off. It was his mother. Every time it has been her .

I don't take offence from strangers. You are comparing me with Manju but failing to understand that you can agree with someone on one aspect and hate them for everything else. I understand it is a story therefore I know what's there in the future for us and we know Abhi will die soon, Manju doesn't want him to marry Ak and I agree with her there. Abhi is like that character from Munna Bhai MBBS who was on suicidal mission because he couldn't get the girl, he didn't think about his mother or his future. I am not judging you or anyone around me, this is where we draw the line between fiction and reality. You chose to judge me and I don't care about what you do with your life. Manju is right if she is against her son marrying a woman who is in love with someone else. If I wanted to pass a judgement on people I would wonder how people are supporting an idea of loveless marriage where wife would think about another man and won't be loyal to her husband, why is Manju wrong when she is the only one making sense? AK loves her dead husband, she should move on and marry someone when she can be true to him, this is why most didn't support Abhi marrying Arohi and were against Manju when she pushed him to marry Arohi. A woman marrying someone because she needs a father for her child and her expectations that the man will be content with her infidelity is not a good marriage, it is selfishness on Ak's part, she wants everything for herself. A father for her kids, a support system for herself and a happy family for herself, is she thinking about Abhi? What is she offering him by letting him make a mistake like this? When she doesn't love him, shouldn't she give him a chance to find love? Don't come at me with "Abhi wants to marry her" I know he does but I am talking about Ak here, what is she bringing to this relationship other than responsibilities and loans?

Originally posted by: SwatiSingh79

I am happy that you have such a beautiful family and sorry for your loss. If we speak about this drama, a few things need to be considered, when Abhi got to know about Ak's complicated pregnancy, he decided not to have kids, when Ak's pregnancy was announced he was against having the child in case it endangered his wife's life, after Ak ran away to Pathankot, he had 6 years to find next girl and have kids with her so Abhi left Ak because she had a miscarriage is wrong because we have seen him prioterizing her health and life over having kids. Ak had accident in jungle and Abhi saved her and their babies, he begged her not to go anywhere till he returns but circumstances led Ak into another trouble which ended up taking 2 lives. When Abhi got to know about miscarriage, he didn't throw her out of the house, he brought her back was seen giving her medicine and water and asked her to rest in her bedroom. This narrative that miscarriage had anything to do with Abhi's outburst is false. I don't connect to Ak because I am not completely inconsiderate towards people around me. She doesn't get that her actions have consequences,

&bold: this needs to said out loud and repeated more often!! The narratives mostly equates to Abhi/manjari outburst vs real life husband-wife/dil-mil scenario. But inconsiderate AK vs real life wife/dil never gets mentioned much!

Originally posted by: Ambajee

&bold: this needs to said out loud and repeated more often!! The narratives mostly equates to Abhi/manjari outburst vs real life husband-wife/dil-mil scenario. But inconsiderate AK vs real life wife/dil never gets mentioned much!

Same thing everywhere. Everyone will fight for their rights but won't think if they are doing their duties. Relationship isn't something where what you get out of it is counted, Ak always likes people who do many things for her, she is selfish to the core. When she was married to An she thought about Abhi, was so into Abhi that she recognized him from smell of his scarf, when Abhi was engaged to her sister, she sneaked into his closet and was sniffing his shirts, she'll continue sniffing An's socks after marrying Abhi and I am to say that Manju is wrong if she doesn't like the idea of her son's wife sniffing another man's clothes while her son takes care of his son and another man's daughter. If Ak loved Abhi, we wouldn't have a problem. In this relationship, all duties belong to husband and all rights belong to wife. This is nothing but selfishness

If only AK loved Abhi— soo true! Sadly AK has always been more abt exploring Khudse Khud ka rishta in literal sense I still refuse to believe she even loved Abhinav truly and no amt of SR scenes or dissecting discussion is going to convince me otherwise. She will remain the most selfish and inconsiderate person in the rishta universe! Period.

Originally posted by: SwatiSingh79

I don't take offence from strangers. You are comparing me with Manju but failing to understand that you can agree with someone on one aspect and hate them for everything else. I understand it is a story therefore I know what's there in the future for us and we know Abhi will die soon, Manju doesn't want him to marry Ak and I agree with her there. Abhi is like that character from Munna Bhai MBBS who was on suicidal mission because he couldn't get the girl, he didn't think about his mother or his future. I am not judging you or anyone around me, this is where we draw the line between fiction and reality. You chose to judge me and I don't care about what you do with your life. Manju is right if she is against her son marrying a woman who is in love with someone else. If I wanted to pass a judgement on people I would wonder how people are supporting an idea of loveless marriage where wife would think about another man and won't be loyal to her husband, why is Manju wrong when she is the only one making sense? AK loves her dead husband, she should move on and marry someone when she can be true to him, this is why most didn't support Abhi marrying Arohi and were against Manju when she pushed him to marry Arohi. A woman marrying someone because she needs a father for her child and her expectations that the man will be content with her infidelity is not a good marriage, it is selfishness on Ak's part, she wants everything for herself. A father for her kids, a support system for herself and a happy family for herself, is she thinking about Abhi? What is she offering him by letting him make a mistake like this? When she doesn't love him, shouldn't she give him a chance to find love? Don't come at me with "Abhi wants to marry her" I know he does but I am talking about Ak here, what is she bringing to this relationship other than responsibilities and loans?

FYI. Nobody is supporting the idea of abhira marriage. Who is ? Yes ,the reasons are different. Akshara willing to go bk to the same hell hole is stupidity . But again that's my opinion on them . I won't judge her for it.

Manjari is only acting upon her fear which may or may not be true in future... So basing life's decisions on them seems ridiculous to me. It's very clear that akshara is marrying abhim for the kids and for abhim also bec he wants it. As a third person, i don't see it as loveless marriage . When one spouse is willing to make it work , things happen eventually . akshara ko apni zindagi ka bharta banana hai ya sahi karna hai it's her choice & she's entitled to it..same with Dr. He is not a toddler who needs to be guided for small and big decisions...It's all about choice & discretion.

This is a different definition of infidelity I'm reading her husband is dead ..he won't rise from the dead and interfere in her married life. Akshara without baby would also carry past baggage of her ex husband , that time manjari was pretty desperate for the marriage.

Originally posted by: SwatiSingh79

I am happy that you have such a beautiful family and sorry for your loss. If we speak about this drama, a few things need to be considered, when Abhi got to know about Ak's complicated pregnancy, he decided not to have kids, when Ak's pregnancy was announced he was against having the child in case it endangered his wife's life, after Ak ran away to Pathankot, he had 6 years to find next girl and have kids with her so Abhi left Ak because she had a miscarriage is wrong because we have seen him prioterizing her health and life over having kids. Ak had accident in jungle and Abhi saved her and their babies, he begged her not to go anywhere till he returns but circumstances led Ak into another trouble which ended up taking 2 lives. When Abhi got to know about miscarriage, he didn't throw her out of the house, he brought her back was seen giving her medicine and water and asked her to rest in her bedroom. This narrative that miscarriage had anything to do with Abhi's outburst is false. I don't connect to Ak because I am not completely inconsiderate towards people around me. She doesn't get that her actions have consequences,

I never told Abhi did not love her, he loved her, cared for her all I agree. Yes, Neil's death and MC was accident (agree Akshara should have been careful), but what has happened, you can not undo. Akshara is a human and humans tend to do mistakes. She did a mistake. But punishing her for that mistake because you got angry with her is not the right thing to do at that time. He only signed divorce paper first, asked her to get out of his life and he remained angry for 6 long years.

Please keep in mind that Akshara did not intend to kill Neil or babies. And she is not a murderer or terrorist or extremist that her actions were extremely harmful to the society and family decided to disown her.

One can be angry for 6 hours, 6 days, 60 days, but if you are angry for 6 years for one event, then you need therapy. Marriage with anyone is not the solution. All the actions of Birlas (from WD onwards is wrong). Mahima is a doctor (whole Birla family) and she was shown pushing and throwing a woman who just miscarried. The whole Birla clan of doctors did not think of consulting a doctor to find a solution to Abhi's anger issues. He needed therapy for the level of persistent anger issues. The whole family failed a DIL who just miscarried.

Families are for standing with you at your sorrows, not just to dance and celebrate festivals. When someone in your family makes a mistake, you don't disown them, you stay with them and make them understand. You don't get that level of anger that you divorce and send them out. (Birlas have the short cut method of disowning people, you have examples of HB, Parth etc.). The level of anger that Abhimanyu showed on WD and thereafter and love can not co exist. You can not be angry with people you love the most for so long a duration. I would have accepted, had they shown Abhimanyu regretting what he did and getting concerned about Akshara and her safety. He never regretted, he kept on being angry

I would never suggest to go for a husband for anyone who is ready with divorce papers, whenever he is angry at you. Even if he is great looking and shows all the love in the world, when things are alright between them, what is the use of such a person who leaves you when you need him the most.

Rather I would say Abhimanyu and Akshara were never meant for each other. How much ever Abhimanyu is shown as a calm and mature person post leap, you never know when his anger issue will be triggered.

As much as Abhimanyu needed therapy, Akshara too needed therapy. But you know, they need drama only and marriage is the best solution

Originally posted by: Ambajee

If only AK loved Abhi— soo true! Sadly AK has always been more abt exploring Khudse Khud ka rishta in literal sense I still refuse to believe she even loved Abhinav truly and no amt of SR scenes or dissecting discussion is going to convince me otherwise. She will remain the most selfish and inconsiderate person in the rishta universe! Period.

If she did love An, she wouldn't have thought about aborting his daughter, she doesn't love Abhir that's why the idea of talking to him and making him understand that he is getting a sister didn't come to her mind. She is incapable of thinking about anyone but herself, Abhir is throwing tantrums so abort the child, can't abort the child so lock a patient with heart condition in room.

Originally posted by: Lethamukund

I never told Abhi did not love her, he loved her, cared for her all I agree. Yes, Neil's death and MC was accident (agree Akshara should have been careful), but what has happened, you can not undo. Akshara is a human and humans tend to do mistakes. She did a mistake. But punishing her for that mistake because you got angry with her is not the right thing to do at that time. He only signed divorce paper first, asked her to get out of his life and he remained angry for 6 long years.

Please keep in mind that Akshara did not intend to kill Neil or babies. And she is not a murderer or terrorist or extremist that her actions were extremely harmful to the society and family decided to disown her.

One can be angry for 6 hours, 6 days, 60 days, but if you are angry for 6 years for one event, then you need therapy. Marriage with anyone is not the solution. All the actions of Birlas (from WD onwards is wrong). Mahima is a doctor (whole Birla family) and she was shown pushing and throwing a woman who just miscarried. The whole Birla clan of doctors did not think of consulting a doctor to find a solution to Abhi's anger issues. He needed therapy for the level of persistent anger issues. The whole family failed a DIL who just miscarried.

Families are for standing with you at your sorrows, not just to dance and celebrate festivals. When someone in your family makes a mistake, you don't disown them, you stay with them and make them understand. You don't get that level of anger that you divorce and send them out. (Birlas have the short cut method of disowning people, you have examples of HB, Parth etc.). The level of anger that Abhimanyu showed on WD and thereafter and love can not co exist. You can not be angry with people you love the most for so long a duration. I would have accepted, had they shown Abhimanyu regretting what he did and getting concerned about Akshara and her safety. He never regretted, he kept on being angry

I would never suggest to go for a husband for anyone who is ready with divorce papers, whenever he is angry at you. Even if he is great looking and shows all the love in the world, when things are alright between them, what is the use of such a person who leaves you when you need him the most.

Rather I would say Abhimanyu and Akshara were never meant for each other. How much ever Abhimanyu is shown as a calm and mature person post leap, you never know when his anger issue will be triggered.

As much as Abhimanyu needed therapy, Akshara too needed therapy. But you know, they need drama only and marriage is the best solution

He didn't remain angry for 6 years, again a false narrative. Abhi was in Goenka house when Ak announced her marriage with An. He was visiting that house everyday asking them about her whereabouts. The one who remained angry for 7 years was Ak, who kept abusing Abhi for one phone call till she needed him to be a father to her kids. She did paternity fraud, kept a father away from his child all over a phone call. I don't say she should have gone back to him but it was her impulsive decision of not telling him which led to him losing his son and An helped her in it. She made one more impulsive decision of aborting An's child but Abhi stopped her from it. You see the difference between two people? One helped Ak in her wrong deeds and another stopped her from taking a wrong Decision

Wow !

I was only commenting on that mindset which is similar to.manjaris.

Dr and his family are the definition of toxic why should a woman alone be responsible for keeping her husband Happy? Whether or not she brings something to the table , she is still worthy of that respect . Dr is getting into this willingly so this question doesn't arise... Can manjari guarantee that she won't interfere in her son's married life ? can Dr give a guarantee that he won't again divorce her in anger ? marriage is between two.people and both are willing . Who is manjari to stop them? Not even law can. manjari is entitled to her views but can't impose it on others be it her son or family.

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