ABHIR ABHINAV SHARMA rejects being ABHIR ABHIMANYU BIRLA. - Page 22

Originally posted by: AvantikaP

YES I am .When children at that age can not even sign any legal documents , when they can not get a license to drive and neither are legible to vote , I am and will always criticise such decisions.

If a child comes and tells, I am happy at my neighbours house, I get lot of toys and food and whatever should he allowed to do so because that makes him happy.LOL

This comparison is RIDICULOUS. Those are his parents, not his neighbors. And just because a child can't vote, it doesn't mean they can't decide what gives them peace and happiness. Wth.

Seriously do you have no understanding of how divorces happen in real life? I am not saying that Ak needs to keep Abhir in Birla house or anything. And also allowing your kid to have a relationship does not equal making them have a relationship or forcing them to interact with people they don't like. In your example, it seems the child is being forced to exist in a toxic environment. That is not what I am asking for here.

In real life, when parents divorce, even for extreme reasons - they still try to have their kids have a relationship with each other's families. It's a different matter if Abhir himself says nope, don't like those people. But it would be his equation with them and he would have the choice to make that happen. You are acting like kids have no choice, and they should have no say in their own lives. Yes, say if Manjari was teaching wrong things to Abhir, then Ak can step in and say hey I don't want my child exposed to that. But here she hasn't even given a choice to anyone.

Obviously I don't agree with the other parts about abuse and stuff, but don't want to discuss such important and delicate topics here.

Also for my example, my mom doesn't have a good relationship with my dad's family, but never stopped me from having a relationship with them. I myself understood their toxicity at a young age because kids are not stupid. And I myself decided what level of interaction I wanted with them. I called them out when I didn't like something and I was allowed to by my parents.

Even for Abhir for example. He called out Manjari for her behaving badly with his mother. That is what my point is. Ak decided for her son what relationships he should or should not have, which is not right or fair. She should have allowed these relationships to exist from the beginning. If Manjari was indeed toxic, then Abhir would have rejected her anyways. But it would be his choice, not Ak's.

Originally posted by: lagjagale

Seriously do you have no understanding of how divorces happen in real life? I am not saying that Ak needs to keep Abhir in Birla house or anything. And also allowing your kid to have a relationship does not equal making them have a relationship or forcing them to interact with people they don't like. In your example, it seems the child is being forced to exist in a toxic environment. That is not what I am asking for here.

In real life, when parents divorce, even for extreme reasons - they still try to have their kids have a relationship with each other's families. It's a different matter if Abhir himself says nope, don't like those people. But it would be his equation with them and he would have the choice to make that happen. You are acting like kids have no choice, and they should have no say in their own lives. Yes, say if Manjari was teaching wrong things to Abhir, then Ak can step in and say hey I don't want my child exposed to that. But here she hasn't even given a choice to anyone.

Obviously I don't agree with the other parts about abuse and stuff, but don't want to discuss such important and delicate topics here.

Was Akshara morally or legally obliged to let her abusers— who accused her of numerous murders and her own miscarriage— have any access to her or her child? The same people who are forcing a literal victim of pysical abuse like Shefali to live with her beater-of-wife abuser by leveraging another child i.e. Shivu? No. She did not

No moral code in the world can force a person to let her abusers have any literal or figurative access into her life in any form.

Originally posted by: lagjagale

Also for my example, my mom doesn't have a good relationship with my dad's family, but never stopped me from having a relationship with them. I myself understood their toxicity at a young age because kids are not stupid. And I myself decided what level of interaction I wanted with them. I called them out when I didn't like something and I was allowed to by my parents.

Even for Abhir for example. He called out Manjari for her behaving badly with his mother. That is what my point is. Ak decided for her son what relationships he should or should not have, which is not right or fair. She should have allowed these relationships to exist from the beginning. If Manjari was indeed toxic, then Abhir would have rejected her anyways. But it would be his choice, not Ak's.

You do know not everyone is obliged to follow your mother's example?

Originally posted by: Anu234

Wait it's him who gonna go for all infact he went behind her even when she was married.

The whole forum is overloaded with same line that AK is running behind AbhiM. I believe in some people's dreams they are seeing AK lifting up AbhiM in her arms and putting him in her bed.

I do not agree that it was abuse so your whole basis doesnt work for me. But yes, even people who are abused in relationships do not keep their kid from his father or his entire family. It's not a thing, it's not even legally allowed to do what Ak did with hiding the kid.

I am not saying people should follow my mother's example. It is an example where things were handled differently than the earlier example. It's to show contrast. Parents shouldn't control their child's relationships to this level where they tell them someone else is their dad and keep them away from having any connection to their extended families.

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Was Akshara morally or legally obliged to let her abusers— who accused her of numerous murders and her own miscarriage— have any access to her or her child? The same people who are forcing a literal victim of pysical abuse like Shefali to live with her beater-of-wife abuser by leveraging another child i.e. Shivu? No. She did not

No moral code in the world can force a person to let her abusers have any literal or figurative access into her life in any form.

Second that. Wrt Manjari or any other family member AK has complete authority whether she wants to let Abhir be close to her or not. But I dont think AK is showing that she will not let Manjari be close to her. 2 days back after Abhir was found, AK took Abhir to Manari to talk to her. So why the allegations I do not understand.

About AbhiM getting access, during leap days whatever AK endured she started to believe that Abhir will be snatched from her (and we all know that came true too) so her stance is completely justified. After AbhiM started to mingle with the Sharmas she became comfortable and started to trust AbhiM regarding Abhir.AK-AbhiM divorce was not a normal divorce where child is alredy born and the parents separate because of their differences. In those divorce cases if a Mom tries to separate the child from the (non violent )father then that is not correct. This situation between AK-AbhiM is not al comparable. Here AbhiM had rejected his wife and children (came straight from his mouth).

Originally posted by: MiVida_Messi

Just how she will come back to him because husband change karna is no big deal for her.

Kabhi arohi kabhi akshara yeh toh abhimanyu karta aaya hei aur jab tak abhinav raha hei uske sath toh loyal hi rahi hei akshara vaise dekhte hei aage kya hota hei koun kiske peech aata hei kya chahte hei sab vaise b abhimanyu married woman ko propose kar chuka hei toh ab toh nav b nhi hei so dekhte hei ab koun aata hei kiske peeche.

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Was Akshara morally or legally obliged to let her abusers— who accused her of numerous murders and her own miscarriage— have any access to her or her child? The same people who are forcing a literal victim of pysical abuse like Shefali to live with her beater-of-wife abuser by leveraging another child i.e. Shivu? No. She did not

No moral code in the world can force a person to let her abusers have any literal or figurative access into her life in any form.

Uske baad puri duniya ko pata hai ki she is not on good terms with her ex-mother in law for whom she is responsible for neil’s death and her relationship with her ex mother in law is sour from both the sides still she tags “Maa” word with manjari which shows how superficial she is! Rishta jaisa hai waise he address karo na! Maa word har kisi ke liye use nahi kiya jata yeh toh usko bhi acche se pata he hoga lekin fir bhi ex-sasuma ke sath maa word tag kar ke superficial banti hai and abhinav is also as superficial as her. “Bhali buaji “ ! I mean really! Jaisa relation hai waise address karo na! Atleast manjari is not superficial! She is true to her feelings that’s why only “abhinavji “ from her side, no acha, bhala,bura, saccha types tags when addressing him.

Jab khud itne superficial ho tab dusro ko abusive bolne ka kya point! Pehle feelings ke sath true rehna sikho otherwise hamesha dusro ko mixed/double signals bhejoge and jab samnewala tumko sahi se pehchan lega tab woh tumko abusive lagega.