ABHIR ABHINAV SHARMA rejects being ABHIR ABHIMANYU BIRLA. - Page 15

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Her body, her choice. A husband doesn't own a wife and definitely isn't the victim when it is her body and health that is harmed. Her suffering if and while caused by her own actions doesn't make him a victim.

He had been taking anxiety medicines so she couldn't exercise her consent? So had none of these happened and she just wanted to leave because of incompatibility, she couldn't have sought a divorce because he took anxiety pills?

Let alone the fact that he did choose to divorce her while she was traumatised, and she shouldn't have left him because he took anxiety pills?

After he divorced her and she ceased to have any conjugal, social, or legal relationship with him, she did not owe him anything. Whether she went to Greece or the Goenkas, that wasn't his business. That's how divorces work.

Ok, so you are just using words like "consent" and "divorce" without understanding what they mean. Yes, and a woman has full rights to her own body. There has never, not once, been a consent violation here. The idea is what we owe to each other (lol, got to quote Locke with no connection).

A wife does not owe her husband her body, and esp a mother can choose to do whatever with her pregnancy, whether it is to abort or not. But...if your happiness and health are tied to someone else, like your family, for example, then they expect you to be careful with it. That is all the expectation that was there. She was supposed to be careful, and she wasn't. That is it. The situation would be different if Abhi wanted kids and forced her into a pregnancy, but he didn't. He clearly showed that he cared for her more than for being a father. But once they decided to keep the pregnancy, built up dreams on it, etc, she does owe him that much. To be careful, to keep herself and her babies safe.

Also, even after divorce, women do owe their exes right to visit and know about their children together. Its a recognized right for both the father and the kid.

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Her body, her choice. A husband doesn't own a wife and definitely isn't the victim when it is her body and health that is harmed. Her suffering if and while caused by her own actions doesn't make him a victim.

He had been taking anxiety medicines so she couldn't exercise her consent? So had none of these happened and she just wanted to leave because of incompatibility, she couldn't have sought a divorce because he took anxiety pills?

Let alone the fact that he did choose to divorce her while she was traumatised, and she shouldn't have left him because he took anxiety pills?

After he divorced her and she ceased to have any conjugal, social, or legal relationship with him, she did not owe him anything. Whether she went to Greece or the Goenkas, that wasn't his business. That's how divorces work.

He can too decide to not pick up her calls - owes her nothing either since she too signed those papers of her own free will. Abhimanyu impulsively divorced her-fine - she had the option to refuse or comply with it. She chose it too just like Neil made the call to save the girls after he listened to her - but he did. So if Neil and Akshara's call was mutually agreed upon after the way she tried to convince him then so was the divorce! The freedom after divorce works both ways, it's not limited to just the woman. She could have informed her family then or when they came for surgery - she chose not to.

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Again a spousal power dynamic is not the same thing as a sibling relationship. Abhimanyu couldn't have caused or asked Neil to give up his share in the family property because that is,his birthright. Akshara was asked and compelled to leave her marital home i.e spousal abuse according to the Supreme Court.

Doing dumb things in love and spousal abuse are two very different things. Divorcing your miscarrying wife doesn't come with the Archies card that she will wait for you to take her back if and when you wish.

Why are you flipping like our FL? You only asked the question, right? If it had been Neil, what would he have done? Now you are only flipping and saying not the same thing.

But to your point. Abhi did NOT take any of her rights. Ak's rights remain intact. Even now, if she wants, she can file for her share of Birla's house cause she was married to Abhi, and to my knowledge, there was no pre-nup so she is entitled to half of whatever Abhi owns. Abhi did not expect his miscarrying ex-wife to wait for him, which is why he accepted that she has moved on. Not sure what you are connecting to.

Another term, "abuse", lol; you really need new words in your vocabulary that are actually accurate to the situation.

This man abhim can’t accept rejection at all….ak on engagement,ak in temple,ak rejected for arohi , now abhir rejection…..he constantly have one reaction aka crying and breaking down…where is that strong og logical thinking well behaved saviour lover and best human being…is he not that strong to face reality or he lives in denial

Originally posted by: DevilsHeart

And she didn't humiliate Abhimanyu? She told him clearly that she won't ever let him be Abhir's father! Abhimanyu never tried to erase Abhiinav from his life but Akshara knowingly did this to Abhimanyu. She could have simply rejected him or told him calmly that she doesn't want Abhir to burdened with all this until he is older but no, she ridiculed his emotions, and his love as her ex husband.

Whatever Abhimanyu did he wasn't thinking straight - but same cannot be said for Akshara. We will keep disagreeing. You are satisfied seeing Abhimanyu's pain today as you hold him accountable. I will be satisfied seeing Akshara's shattering after realising her errors! But no amount of suffering on her part will make me like her probably. I wish Akshara stays single after losing her true love and Abhimanyu moves on with someone else.

Trust me none of us want abhira . That's OK.

Yes we can agree to disagree but handing over the fatherly rights to abhim on a platter after what she went through can never be equated wth wd. She wasn't obliged to tell abhim anything after what she heard from him. Why would she bother for his pain? He is nobody to her . There was a time when a strangers pain made akshara go crazy . This post leap akshara is created by abhimanyu.

Originally posted by: DevilsHeart

Whatever Abhimanyu did he wasn't thinking straight - but same cannot be said for Akshara. We will keep disagreeing. You are satisfied seeing Abhimanyu's pain today as you hold him accountable. I will be satisfied seeing Akshara's shattering after realising her errors! But no amount of suffering on her part will make me like her probably. I wish Akshara stays single after losing her true love and Abhimanyu moves on with someone else.

@bold This is one thing that many (despite their preferences) would actually want to see....

But we all know makers won't ever show it 🥱

Originally posted by: Krinya

Trust me none of us want abhira . That's OK.

Yes we can agree to disagree but handing over the fatherly rights to abhim on a platter after what she went through can never be equated wth wd. She wasn't obliged to tell abhim anything after what she heard from him. Why would she bother for his pain? He is nobody to her . There was a time when a strangers pain made akshara go crazy . This post leap akshara is created by abhimanyu.

Honestly, couldn't care less about Akshara or what she went through or does. I don't agree with anything about her and I feel no sympathy towards her character. WD she suffered yes - but I only wanted Abhimanyu to realise and redeem which for me he has in every way! Akshara's forgiveness or acceptance has no value in my eyes until she starts working on her own flaws.

I am happy that Abhir knows how much Abhimanyu cares about his happiness and for me thats the best part of today's episode. For me Akshara's character was always problematic and the way she is after leap is unbearable to watch.

It would have been better if Abhinav survived and she exited according to me. Either of the two could have moved on and married someone else.

Originally posted by: DevilsHeart

And she didn't humiliate Abhimanyu? She told him clearly that she won't ever let him be Abhir's father! Abhimanyu never tried to erase Abhiinav from his life but Akshara knowingly did this to Abhimanyu. She could have simply rejected him or told him calmly that she doesn't want Abhir to burdened with all this until he is older but no, she ridiculed his emotions, and his love as her ex husband.

Whatever Abhimanyu did he wasn't thinking straight - but same cannot be said for Akshara. We will keep disagreeing. You are satisfied seeing Abhimanyu's pain today as you hold him accountable. I will be satisfied seeing Akshara's shattering after realising her errors! But no amount of suffering on her part will make me like her probably. I wish Akshara stays single after losing her true love and Abhimanyu moves on with someone else.

I know ab Abhimnayu and Akshara he sath aane wale hai so ab kuch nahi ho sakta lekin abhinav zinda tha toh ek hope thi ki chalo ab Abhimanyu kitna bhi dukhi ho lekin long run mai uske liye accha he hai lekin ab uska bhi scope nahi bacha after Rajan shahi’s announcement.

Had a douth what changed abhim mind….in court itself abhir clearly told that he want to stay with his parents not his real father but abhim didn’t back off case then….if he would have done it this child would have been spared from this traumatic situations

Originally posted by: sweet_tania

@bold I soooo wish abhimanyu moves on with someone else, I can’t tolerate akshara with him, never! Chahe Abhimanyu single he rahe, I don’t care but please No Akshara around him 🙏

I know ab Abhimnayu and Akshara he sath aane wale hai so ab kuch nahi ho sakta lekin abhinav zinda tha toh ek hope thi ki chalo ab Abhimanyu kitna bhi dukhi ho lekin long run mai uske liye accha he hai lekin ab uska bhi scope nahi bacha after Rajan shahi’s announcement.

trust me many of us don’t want AbhiM in any proximity of AK. He is scary and gives me that vibe with respect to AK.😱