ABHIR ABHINAV SHARMA rejects being ABHIR ABHIMANYU BIRLA. - Page 14

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Victim of foolishness is not actually a thing let alone being comparable to being victim of actual spousal abuse. Lol

And I see no spousal abuse whatsoever from Abhimanyu other than his outburst that day which I wouldn’t completely consider abuse either! However, he behaved with her that day- she has given it back tenfold after leap. She kept saying she values family but her first option is always to run away from said families! No family or person is perfect but in order to be understood sometimes its important to speak your mind - which she never does and then blames others for not understanding her. First she needs to learn how to communicate when required. A person who is unwilling to work on his/herself should not be pointing flaws in others.

Originally posted by: AvantikaP

Please let me know in which episode were divorce papers filed.

😆 seriously, just cuz it was not shown explicitly, doesn't mean that it didn't happen... In show's context it's done and reason for throwing divorce paper on her face was so that her character can marry Abhinav.

And don't expect that Twist in this show where couple weren't officially divorced. Keep that logic limited to Ekta Kapoor's Prachi Ranbir troupe 😆... It's not happening in DKP...

Nice post i also loved today's episode but coming to forum and the comments made my mood off. Anyway let people say what they want to. Kuch toh log kahenge. I wanted Abhir and Abhinav moments. And Abhir to call out his heart - they did. Blood is not all. Everyone should move on in life.

Originally posted by: DevilsHeart

Abhimanyu too told the truth of her actions on her face on WD! So she is not the victim either then?

No bec therez a diff in insult and "humiliation +accusations" . Accusing aksnara of 9 murders and calling her sirat ma ki maut ki wajah wasn't insult. Plus throwing divorce papers on her face wasn't mere insult.

Originally posted by: Krinya

No bec therez a diff in insult and "humiliation +accusations" . Accusing aksnara of 9 murders and calling her sirat ma ki maut ki wajah wasn't insult. Plus throwing divorce papers on her face wasn't mere insult.

Whatever Abhimanyu did he wasn't thinking straight - but same cannot be said for Akshara. We will keep disagreeing. You are satisfied seeing Abhimanyu's pain today as you hold him accountable. I will be satisfied seeing Akshara's shattering after realising her errors! But no amount of suffering on her part will make me like her probably. I wish Akshara stays single after losing her true love and Abhimanyu moves on with someone else.

Originally posted by: DevilsHeart

When the said foolishness makes her take stupid decisions which risk her life and that of her unborn child on multiple occasions(forest, WD and also roaming penniless on streets rather than ask her family for support during complicated pregnancy after being thrown out of hostel, jailed and almost molested!) - it does make the other person a victim. Its sheer luck that Abhir(to her the truth staying hidden was more important than his surgery) survived inspite of all her bad choices! And if all her actions can be justified simply because she is FL or due to her trauma of WD then Abhimanyu's acts on that day can also be justified as a trauma response - I don't find anyone better in this regard.

And I see no spousal abuse whatsoever from Abhimanyu other than his outburst that day which I wouldn’t completely consider abuse either! However, he behaved with her that day- she has given it back tenfold after leap. She kept saying she values family but her first option is always to run away from said families! No family or person is perfect but in order to be understood sometimes its important to speak your mind - which she never does and then blames others for not understanding her. First she needs to learn how to communicate when required. A person who is unwilling to work on his/herself should not be pointing flaws in others.

Okay lol. How was he a victim in any of the instances you have mention wherein her life and her pregnancy were at risk, and she was the one who suffered through physical, mental, and emotional trauma.

He lost his brother in an accident that was not factored in by two adults when they took a decision. In real life, it could have very well been Akshara who died on that day than Neil. Would he have, like Akshara asked him long ago, disowned his brother, kicked him out of his house when he required medical attention, accused him of murder if Akshara had died instead of Neil?

The adult who died took a decision to prioritise the lives of literal children at the risk of his own life and died in an accident. It was unfortunate but he wasn't lulled by another adult.

How was she not to run away from her very loving family after her hawt surgeon soulmate threw predrafted divorce papers on her face and roooooared "ho gaya humara divorce... jab tak mere saamne rahogi tab tak mujhe apni galti ka ehsaas dilati rahogi."

She should have just waited around to say "see, baby, here I am not running away from you– my family— after you divorced me while I hadn't even been properly treated for a miscarriage. I acknowledge you as the victim of my foolishness."

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Okay lol. How was he a victim in any of the instances you have mention wherein her life and her pregnancy were at risk, and she was the one who suffered through physical, mental, and emotional trauma.

He lost his brother in an accident that was not factored in by two adults when they took a decision. In real life, it could have very well been Akshara who died on that day than Neil. Would he have, like Akshara asked him long ago, disowned his brother, kicked him out of his house when he required medical attention, accused him of murder if Akshara had died instead of Neil?

The adult who died took a decision to prioritise the lives of literal children at the risk of his own life and died in an accident. It was unfortunate but he wasn't lulled by another adult.

How was she not to run away from her very loving family after her hawt surgeon soulmate threw predrafted divorce papers on her face and roooooared "ho gaya humara divorce... jab tak mere saamne rahogi tab tak mujhe apni galti ka ehsaas dilati rahogi."

She should have just waited around to say "see, baby, here I am not running away from you– my family— after you divorced me while I hadn't even been properly treated for a miscarriage. I acknowledge you as the victim of my foolishness."

The ONE point you are all stuck on is that Abhi divorced Ak, but if Neil were in her position, he would not have. And I love Abhi and know his character, and can tell you with full certainty that he would have been equally devastated and possibly even more angry with Neil cause he gave Ak's responsibility to Neil. He can't divorce Neil, I agree. But he can cut off relations with him at least for a few years. And he would have.

Neil was responsible for Ak and basically Abhi's whole world. If Neil lost it by any chance, Abhi would not be able to move on from that easily. And grief is really powerful. It's not easy to see someone connected to your spouse's death every single day. He would have moved away from Birla's house himself and healed on his own and then come back and slowly mended those relations. That's how these things go, even if this happened in real life.

People, normal people, do dumb things in pain. It happens. And relationships do break, but when there is love, people also come back. For example, Mahima had the same situation; she blamed Kairav in grief and pain and couldn't let go of it even after she found evidence that he was not responsible. She just needed someone to blame cause that's what people need to feel in control. She was finally able to let go because of the love that Kairav had for Anisha. And they were able to overcome that grief together. That is what happens in these situations.

Originally posted by: DevilsHeart

When she is his wife and he is the father of those kids, then definitely her decisions would directly impact him. Her sufferings were self-inflicted - caused by her own decisions! He had been taking anxiety medication because he feared she may leave him again - and putting her life in danger aggravated the issue! He knew then that no matter how much he loves her he cannot expect her to act rationally. The way he divorced her was wrong - agreed - but i think its the best decision he took - breaking away from this problematic lady. If only, now they stay apart. And when I say running away from families, in this situation I meant Goenkas.

Her body, her choice. A husband doesn't own a wife and definitely isn't the victim when it is her body and health that is harmed. Her suffering if and while caused by her own actions doesn't make him a victim.

He had been taking anxiety medicines so she couldn't exercise her consent? So had none of these things happened, and she just wanted to leave because of incompatibility, she couldn't have sought a divorce because he took anxiety pills?

Let alone the fact that he did choose to divorce her while she was traumatised, and she shouldn't have left him because he took anxiety pills?

After he divorced her and she ceased to have any conjugal, social, or legal relationship with him, she did not owe him anything. Whether she went to Greece or the Goenkas, that wasn't his business. That's how divorces work.

Originally posted by: lagjagale

The ONE point you are all stuck on is that Abhi divorced Ak, but if Neil were in her position, he would not have. And I love Abhi and know his character, and can tell you with full certainty that he would have been equally devastated and possibly even more angry with Neil cause he gave Ak's responsibility to Neil. He can't divorce Neil, I agree. But he can cut off relations with him at least for a few years. And he would have.

Neil was responsible for Ak and basically Abhi's whole world. If Neil lost it by any chance, Abhi would not be able to move on from that easily. And grief is really powerful. It's not easy to see someone connected to your spouse's death every single day. He would have moved away from Birla's house himself and healed on his own and then come back and slowly mended those relations. That's how these things go, even if this happened in real life.

People, normal people, do dumb things in pain. It happens. And relationships do break, but when there is love, people also come back. For example, Mahima had the same situation; she blamed Kairav in grief and pain and couldn't let go of it even after she found evidence that he was not responsible. She just needed someone to blame cause that's what people need to feel in control. She was finally able to let go because of the love that Kairav had for Anisha. And they were able to overcome that grief together. That is what happens in these situations.

Again a spousal power dynamic is not the same thing as a sibling relationship. Abhimanyu couldn't have caused or asked Neil to give up his share in the family property because that is,his birthright. Akshara was asked and compelled to leave her marital home i.e spousal abuse according to the Supreme Court.

Doing dumb things in love and spousal abuse are two very different things. Divorcing your miscarrying wife doesn't come with the Archies card that she will wait for you to take her back if and when you wish.