Abhimanyu is a better parent - Page 5

Originally posted by: DevilsHeart

Well, you did say he is not her parent - isn’t father a parent? Ruhi has other relatives too in the family who would do things for her - it won’t make them all her Poppy or father.

Yes he did make mistakes. But I do not think Akshara-Abhinav are better parents in any way.

There are things that both sides do better and there’s a a lot of room for improvement for all four of them. And I do not think two people need to be married to be parents.. Being married makes them a couple - spouses to each other. It was immature for Abhimanyu to propose Akshara - but hypothetically even if they did get back together- Ruhi would still be important to him.

He has been more concerned with Abhir because when he found out that Abhir’s his son - he had a critical heart condition- if my sibling is unwell obviously my parents would give more attention to them - doesn’t make them bad parents to me. Yeah it didn’t occur to him that Ruhi was getting insecure - but when Akshara pointed it - he genuinely wanted her to explain so he can understand Ruhi better to help her - and this tells that he does care about her feelings and wellbeing like any parent would. He even resolved those issues so Ruhi and Abhir get along and can share a healthy bonding which none of the other 3 parents cared about.

He is not father of Ruhi. For father he must have to marry with Arohi. He is whatever for Ruhi but not father. Not by law not by blood. Common he is uncle to her but I don't judge him that he is doing less than a father.

Mistakes jo marzi ho but jo parents apne bache ko bhool Jaye wo ache parents toh kya parents bhi kahla sakte. Doesn't matter they r blood related or not. I didn't say AkshNav r better parents. But they r parents. I know they made the lot's of mistakes but that didn't turned their bad parenting. Every parents raise their child according to them . And their mistakes can't make Abhi good parent. Oh common if u can ignore or justify Abhi mistakes then u can also justify akshnav mistakes.

Camp wala ignorance toh Maine discuss bhi nahi Kiya hai. Because even I can understand his situation or state of mind.

Main kah Rahi hun ki pahle usko parents ban to jane do fir decide karna ko hai acha baap aur maa. Tumlogo se zayada mujhe bharosa hai ki wo ek acha baap banega because he is not villain at all.

Personally, I think he is a more understanding parent.

His willingness to understand the children is being misconstrued as spoiling. He isn't spoiling them he is letting them feel their emotions and work through them, which was something that was always denied to him his entire life. It's important to let children express themselves and feel their emotions instead of bottling it up. He feels their pain and anxiety with them that's why they trust him.

I remember earlier in the leap when Abhir was stressed over his family's financial issues and attacked Abhi over it. He didn't yell or condemn him for his rude behavior. He simply asked him what was wrong and why he is was behaving that way. With the simple conversation he opened up to him about his family, his anger issues, and his dreams of becoming a doctor. Abhir was still extremely hostile towards him and he let him vent out his frustrations at him. In the end Abhi went back to UD and Abhir started missing him then tried to look for ways to interact with him. He provided Abhir a safe space and he became his hero. The one person he can rely on to save him, protect him, solve all his problems, and make things better.

It's ITV so I didn't expect much, but I like how the makers show his relationship with both children. He is their safe place. They won't be judged, punished, or criticized for their feelings or behavior. Most importantly, they can behave like children because he is the adult that shoulders all their problems for them.

Originally posted by: Priyrabha

He is not father of Ruhi. For father he must have to marry with Arohi. He is whatever for Ruhi but not father. Not by law not by blood. Common he is uncle to her but I don't judge him that he is doing less than a father.

Mistakes jo marzi ho but jo parents apne bache ko bhool Jaye wo ache parents toh kya parents bhi kahla sakte. Doesn't matter they r blood related or not. I didn't say AkshNav r better parents. But they r parents. I know they made the lot's of mistakes but that didn't turned their bad parenting. Every parents raise their child according to them . And their mistakes can't make Abhi good parent. Oh common if u can ignore or justify Abhi mistakes then u can also justify akshnav mistakes.

Camp wala ignorance toh Maine discuss bhi nahi Kiya hai. Because even I can understand his situation or state of mind.

Main kah Rahi hun ki pahle usko parents ban to jane do fir decide karna ko hai acha baap aur maa. Tumlogo se zayada mujhe bharosa hai ki wo ek acha baap banega because he is not villain at all.

@bold by this logic we should all stop calling Abhinav a parent! And since he ain’t anyone’s parent either by law or blood, any further comparison with Abhimanyu is moot!!

And I didn’t say Akshara-Abhinav had been bad or worse parents, I just said they are not the better parents in my view.

I am not trying to justify or ignore his mistakes, but certain actions don’t seem mistake or wrong to me.

Proposing to Akshara was a mistake I agree, agreeing to marry Arohi instead of dealing with Ruhi’s stubbornness- again a mistake.

And Akshara Abhinav have overlooked/neglected Abhir quite a few times too for instance when Abhinav was trying to earn more. Akshara shouted at him for mentioning he gets fatherly feelings from Abhimanyu. A 6 year old kid is dealing with his mom’s anxiety attacks - then being told to hide it from his father- there’s a reason why Abhir has a pattern of hiding his own health issues from his parents- he’s learning it from them. When he asked for a room - he could be explained why they can’t give right now - could have arranged another bed as the growing kid wanted some space(which is a reasonable request in my opinion) but instead she told him toofani raat story and asked him to continue to sleep with his dad! The kid is being made way too mature for his age. Just how Ruhi got too stubborn before. This is why I feel if both sets of parents learn from each other - the kids can have a much better life.

@underline - i agree. every parent tries their best and parenting is more a learning on the job kind of thing so there will be a lot of trial and error involved. there’s not one correct way to do things. every parent and every child is different.

last para - i am not sure if it’s sarcasm or genuine so i will ignore

OMG this much research even rs didn't fetch...

Court gave the verdict nav Saab and akshu mataji ka security they give good..oh please don't lecture campus etc...we knew how akshu was feared and trying to keep abhir out from abhi and her bakwaas lecture on go to roohi...oh common she has given identity to a kid which itself lie..if we talk on campus who handled abhir and roohi together and reconciled..

It's better ki abhir stay in a place where he know true identity and not naamkaran done by akshara ..br yara abhir doesn't even knew there s none called sharma it's fake name

Originally posted by: yellomellow

Personally, I think he is a more understanding parent.

His willingness to understand the children is being misconstrued as spoiling. He isn't spoiling them he is letting them feel their emotions and work through them, which was something that was always denied to him his entire life. It's important to let children express themselves and feel their emotions instead of bottling it up. He feels their pain and anxiety with them that's why they trust him.

I remember earlier in the leap when Abhir was stressed over his family's financial issues and attacked Abhi over it. He didn't yell or condemn him for his rude behavior. He simply asked him what was wrong and why he is was behaving that way. With the simple conversation he opened up to him about his family, his anger issues, and his dreams of becoming a doctor. Abhir was still extremely hostile towards him and he let him vent out his frustrations at him. In the end Abhi went back to UD and Abhir started missing him then tried to look for ways to interact with him. He provided Abhir a safe space and he became his hero. The one person he can rely on to save him, protect him, solve all his problems, and make things better.

It's ITV so I didn't expect much, but I like how the makers show his relationship with both children. He is their safe place. They won't be judged, punished, or criticized for their feelings or behavior. Most importantly, they can behave like children because he is the adult that shoulders all their problems for them.

Exactly he is acing it…I personally also give part credit to harshad here for the way he has handled this whole leap n his character…the little nuances he brings through his acting n expressions…even though he us being painted as the villain quite blatantly by the writers …he has a large section of. Viewers sympathizing for him instead

Originally posted by: R.G.C

Why does Abhi need to be compared always to get validation? And no, he is not the better parent. When it comes to parenting each individual can have a different approach to it and still do a good job. While Abhi is the talker (not always, will come to that) who thinks the child deserves to know everything, Akshara does not want the child to know problems faced by the elders. Akshnav have raised Abhir well, that cannot be denied. When Abhim’s journey as a father has not yet begun how can we even say he is better? Sure, with Ruhi we can say he kind of acted like a father figure, but since Abhir came into his life, he has also neglected the child and made her feel she is losing her Poppy. Yes, he mended things between her and Abhir but still the dynamics change every now and then, and we see him lying to her and going to meet Abhir in Kasauli. He wants the kids to know everything as per his own convenience. IMO it’s completely fine for parents to not tell everything to their children out of concern, there is nothing wrong with that, but problem is if he calls out others on the same behavior. No doubt Ak devoiding Abhir of the truth forever would have been really wrong, but not wanting the same now when the child is just 6-7 is quite reasonable. Abhim cared about his rights more than Abhir’s feelings, despite knowing how much Abhir loved his parents. Both the parents also could not stand against their families for the child and wronged the child. So yeah, parents can not always be right. It would be very interesting to see how Abhim deals with the question about why him and Ak were not together? Will he still stay with his ideologies about kids should know everything, or again he changes as per convenience. Will Manjari manipulate him this time to lie? And by any means, I am not saying Akshnav are the best parents either, they have their shortcomings too, like Abhinav’s insecurities led him to overtime and spend less time with family, or Ak’s fears led her to hide so many things; but still does not mean Abhim is the better parent. All of them have handled some situations better than the other, while flunked in other situations.

This I agree. My intention though was not to compare but I agree it may sound like that.

I have said it time and again that overall I believe that none of them are bad parents but recent events I have felt Abhimanyu has a better way of explaining things to Kids and one of the reason why Kids felt safe with him.

Also, the way Akshnav presented the custody thing in front of Abhir was not good in anyway.

Coming back to this post I agree he may not be the best among all but he is a good parent sure equally good like others.

P.S: I never got your name. Always a pleasure to have discussed opposite thoughts with you ☺️

Abhimanyu, once told Ak that when ppl blame her, he feels very bad n takes it personally. It hurts him when she is wrongly judged by others so she should stay out of other people business. He trusts her in everything but dsnt want ppl to point fingers at her. And on Neil's death rituals day he asked her multiple times to stay out of sight coz Mj was hysterical. One person has to back off when they see situation is out of control but Ak never once thought of Manjari's condition or her own delicate health. Only accusations n screams of aarohi were able to stop her.

Everyone saw the two sisters reactions n Abhimanyu for the first time coudnt say anything to Aarohi n defend Akshara. He was broken multiple times that day without any respite. He entered bedroom for some quiet time instead Neil's voice pierced him.

And even then Ak couldn't utter a sorry or console Abhimanyu instead she wanted him to pity-comfort her. Abhimanyu needed someone to hug him too. A sorry for putting Neil's voice could have worked who knows but ....

What Abhimanyu saw was that She just wasnt ready to accept that her delicate condition was suppose to be her prime concern. She had cramps in a high risk pregnancy.

She never had any consideration for Abhimanyu's feelings. It was always about what she thinks in any given situation. And if Abhimanyu protests then just blame his impulsive reactions, short temper, sharp tongue, loud voice, curt tone.

Ak takes time to think and still always makes wrong decisions and mostly full of lies.

Abhimanyu is better because he makes mistakes and never tries to hide them, he faces n speaks truth however bitter it is.

Also I will never understand why should he not respect his mother if she is the only attachment left with him. Ak is married, he tried to propose to her was given a reality check n stays in his limits.

Now his n Mj major concern is Abhir. He sympathizes with AK n her husband. But his main concern in life will be his mom n son's love.

Originally posted by: Kabhi18

Honestly, the achaa admi repetition is getting old now lol. Abhimanyu is a good human, but better I still don't agree with. Perhaps it's because of his mistakes in his past and being unable to stand up for his wife in front of his mother, who he claimed to love like crazy. It leaves a poor taste yunno?

Originally posted by: chaipaani

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Abhimanyu is a better parent. Period.

He talks to kids very nicely, in an understanding tone, and explains to them the complex situation in an easy way.

He doesn't manipulate them and self victimized himself in front of the kids

Adding on why I said Abhimanyu is a better / also a good parent:

So in the last few episodes we saw how Abhir was informed by Akshnav that he had become a financial burden to them. Such a thought can be deeply traumatic for any child, as it shakes their sense of security and belonging. Parents must be sensitive to their child's emotions and handle them carefully.

In this particular scenario, Abhimanyu's way of providing comfort to Abhir stood out for me. Despite being unaware of the intricate details of what unfolded in the Goenka House, he could sense Abhir's sadness. He reached out to his son and reassured him that whatever was happening was not his fault. Abhimanyu's ability to empathize and provide emotional support to Abhir demonstrates his profound understanding of the impact such situations can have on a child's psyche.

On the other hand, it is important to note that Akshnav, despite being an adult, failed to offer the same level of emotional reassurance to their own child.

Regarding some thoughts, I read about why Abhimanyu can't move to Kasauli:

Although change is often challenging for children, it is unreasonable to expect a doctor/surgeon to be the one to initiate such a significant life change. Abhir's sadness and longing for his parents and life back at Kasauli are valid emotions, but he has not expressed them directly to Abhimanyu yet.

I will say it again that Abhimanyu's approach to explaining things to the Kids(Ruhi & Abhir) sets him apart as a sensible and compassionate parent. He understands the need for open communication and ensures that Abhir does not bear the burden of guilt or responsibility for the situation.

Originally posted by: chaipaani

Adding on why I said Abhimanyu is a better / also a good parent:

So in the last few episodes we saw how Abhir was informed by Akshnav that he had become a financial burden to them. Such a thought can be deeply traumatic for any child, as it shakes their sense of security and belonging. Parents must be sensitive to their child's emotions and handle them carefully.

In this particular scenario, Abhimanyu's way of providing comfort to Abhir stood out for me. Despite being unaware of the intricate details of what unfolded in the Goenka House, he could sense Abhir's sadness. He reached out to his son and reassured him that whatever was happening was not his fault. Abhimanyu's ability to empathize and provide emotional support to Abhir demonstrates his profound understanding of the impact such situations can have on a child's psyche.

On the other hand, it is important to note that Akshnav, despite being an adult, failed to offer the same level of emotional reassurance to their own child.

Regarding some thoughts, I read about why Abhimanyu can't move to Kasauli:

Although change is often challenging for children, it is unreasonable to expect a doctor/surgeon to be the one to initiate such a significant life change. Abhir's sadness and longing for his parents and life back at Kasauli are valid emotions, but he has not expressed them directly to Abhimanyu yet.

I will say it again that Abhimanyu's approach to explaining things to the Kids(Ruhi & Abhir) sets him apart as a sensible and compassionate parent. He understands the need for open communication and ensures that Abhir does not bear the burden of guilt or responsibility for the situation.

Akshnav just takes random routes to do something. But abhi ensures he uses best way to do something.

Some eg :

1. Akshu gave abhir some party and then disclosed about abhi in worst possible way. But abhi came to home first thing he did was he said sorry and he told him the truth and hugged him. He did not do any acts to save himself from the wrath. Both the kids were silently listening to him.

2. He took abhir to temple and asked him to ask question as he wanted abhir to know he can't lie infront of god.

3. He even spoke to him about all his issues and also it was not his mistake 😌