Where does one draw the line?

Posted: 2 years ago
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Hello all you wonderful people. Before I start, *DISCLAIMER* -

  1. I have been following YRKKH only from the current, i.e., third generation. The only knowledge I have of the previous generations is from the context that characters have provided on the show.
  2. I am brand new to the forum, however, I have been reading posts and updates from some fellow members for quite some time now.
  3. I am an ardent HC fan. I respect him and his work. I started watching YRKKH only for HC. So I understand how some of us always try and justify our favorite actor's character.
  4. I am a Harshali shipper. I just love seeing them together cause they manifest such positivity. This makes me an Abhira shipper (unconsciously now, even though I acknowledge that their characters together are far from perfect). So I understand how some of us want to see our favorite pairs as endgames and there is no harm in that.
  5. This post is not focused on my opinion of the characters but my POV on the show's narrative.

Now coming to the post itself, I am truly disheartened by some of the comments that are being passed around in social media forums. We are so invested in a FICTIONAL show that we are not thinking twice before posting something which basically results in a fight between ACTUAL human beings. It is good to have an opinion, because opinions are what makes us decisive. Without opinions we would all be wanderers. But we should be accepting and not be closed books when it comes to others voicing their opinions.

The YRKKH S3 characters are works of writers and show creators. They and ONLY they are the ones who own the storyline and what we see on our screens. So please stop associating characters to actors. The actors are WILLINGLY portraying their characters and doing the best that they can to show what the writers have in store for them. If you think Abhinav cries too much, it's because that is what the writers want out of him for the narrative. If you think Akshara in CERTAIN instances gives priority to her husband over her child, it's because that is what the writers want out of her for the narrative. If you think Abhimanyu makes impulsive decisions and VERBALLY abused his wife (oops, ex wife), it's because that is what the writers want out of him for the narrative.

I am honestly tired of how writers think they can show anything. I understand the concept of leaps in ITV. I understand that a character's traits may change over a leap. But how does a character's entire identity change? Matlab, kuch bhi!

For example,

Akshara, I LOVED the concept of a licensed music therapist who wanted to make a career in singing so that she can help more people. She lost her identity because of ghost singing (which she had to do to save her ex husband's career cause, ITV logic!) but then she was determined to regain it and prove her worth. A once strong-willed woman who was willing to go live alone away from family to keep her sister happy, who was willing to go live alone away from family (yes, she had her brother around, but that was not the plan when she initially agreed to the condition) to keep her ex husband's career intact. What did the writers reduce this character to? A pregnant woman who was unable to take care of herself without the help of a stranger who she ridiculously asked to be the father of her child and falsely named him on the birth certificate (not going to comment on whether this is a criminal offense or not because a, I am not a lawyer or aware of the specifics; b, this would surely entertain a lot of unnecessary comments from people claiming to know the intricacies of the very vast Indian judicial system; and mainly c, this is ITV, so reality does not apply). A woman who married the said stranger ONLY to give a happy family to her kid. A woman who hid her child from his father for 6 years (which I can vaguely understand) but refused to reveal the truth to even after knowing that he has done nothing but be a confidant to the kid and saved him from a life threatening condition. A woman who refused to reveal the truth about the said child even when the father was critical, not knowing whether he was going to survive. A woman who was nothing but rude and mean to her son's father even after he got to know that he has a son, when all he wanted was to be a part of his son's life. Don't even get me started on the law student's jam making career. Akshara definitely does not owe any explanation to her ex husband. But it is foolish to think that she owes no explanation to her son's real father. How does one's identity change so much? ONLY because of that one fateful white day?

Abhira, I loved that they found each other when they least expected it. Minus the drama in between, I think their story was beautiful. I believe that it was love, others may say it was just lust or infatuation. I respect everyone's opinions. I liked how they completed each other. Akshara was (to an extent) able to help Abhimanyu with his impulse and aggression and show him that real love did exist. Abhimanyu was able to help Akshara with loving herself and making sure that she gave importance to her individuality and career. Their marriage faced a lot of hurdles (like any ITV marriage). Their love life was always interrupted by external factors. I understand that this is a family drama. But some of the decisions taken by them are far from reality. We never got to see the potential of their marriage, how they made up for the lost time before their wedding (as they were busy trying to convince family members for their approval instead of getting to know each other). Abhira had so much potential that the fictional couple became couple goals for viewers, they were winning hearts everywhere, they were topping charts (still are, I think?), winning best jodi awards. But all this was butchered in the name of drama, and butchered to such an extent that we find it hard to believe that such a couple even existed on the show.

This is the flaw of the writers. I understand that ITV is far from reality. But to what extent? How can a story or its characters change so much that people would go on social media wars to defame them to such a bad degree? And how low can viewers go to shame the characters and the actors behind them just to prove their point? Where does one draw the line?


Note: Just because I've named Akshara as an example does not mean that I think Abhimanyu was not wrong. They have both made mistakes. I took her example because I feel that the writers have done a greater injustice to her character.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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This show is so off track that to shake it off I am rewatching HC's previous shows. Completed Tere Liye. Wat a show. Can't believe it's a ek Maa show. Now watching Bepanaah. Wow.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Its a fictional story of one writer. Honestly.....a Writer can write anything in his or her story. When stories like Naagin exist den this is far more relatable. Similarly audiences are free to watch it or not watch it.

I wont blame the writers for fan wars or fans degrading charactera and actors. Its their immaturity if they dont take a fictional show and its fictional characters as it is.


I knw u hv said its a generalised post and you didnt mean to just say things abt Akshara. But I just hv one point to say abt dt. I actually like this Akshara better than the pre- leap one. And no taking someone's help when you are vulnerable.....doesnt make you weak. Every battle is different. What Akshara went through post Neil's death was vastly different from whatver she had faced prior to that. If she broke down completely and let a stranger help her......dt doesnt make her weak at all. People change.........when situations become overbearing. Its not unheard of.

Posted: 2 years ago
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My reply in blue 😊

Originally posted by: WhtsinAname

Its a fictional story of one writer. Honestly.....a Writer can write anything in his or her story. When stories like Naagin exist den this is far more relatable. Similarly audiences are free to watch it or not watch it.


Absolutely! It’s all fiction. I cannot comment on shows which I haven’t watched. But in this day and age, there is a lot more they can do to make ITV more relevant and relatable especially with the dawn of OTT. We see that happening with Bollywood movies also. Directors and creators keeping up with reality and viewers content in a better way.

I wont blame the writers for fan wars or fans degrading charactera and actors. Its their immaturity if they dont take a fictional show and its fictional characters as it is.


I agree to an extent. Yes, viewers should not get too invested in characters. But in case of YRKKH, I feel that the creators are also not helping, instead they are fueling the wars (even if it’s just by a few drops). For example, showing Abhira content on social media when the actual couple has seperated on the show (not just separated but the FL is now married to another man) is making things worse. The so called “lollipops” that they keep presenting to keep both ships afloat is playing with viewers’ emotions.


I knw u hv said its a generalised post and you didnt mean to just say things abt Akshara. But I just hv one point to say abt dt. I actually like this Akshara better than the pre- leap one. And no taking someone's help when you are vulnerable.....doesnt make you weak. Every battle is different. What Akshara went through post Neil's death was vastly different from whatver she had faced prior to that. If she broke down completely and let a stranger help her......dt doesnt make her weak at all. People change.........when situations become overbearing. Its not unheard of.


Sorry if I came across wrong. There is no harm in asking for help when vulnerable. But she wasn’t completely helpless either. She did have an option of going to the Goenka’s house. Given that she loves her family immensely, I see no issues in her doing that. I agree, she was upset with everyone’s behavior. If I was in her place, I would have wanted to get lost too. But once she got to know about one of her babies still alive and knowing the complications she is about to face given her condition, she should rather trust her family over a stranger whom she knew nothing about. Okay, chalo I will give her the benifit of doubt here and try to understand her reason behind not wanting to go to her family given her state of mind. But she should have eventually, and have her family help through her complications. Itne bhi bure nahi the woh log.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Sorry I didn't get the point of your post . Frm what i gather you want abhira and akshara put a full stop to it when she boarded the bus, wrote abhinavs name on the bc and married abhinav . It's not char butchering , they changed the story for trp which was well accepted by the audience as it's reflected in the trp.


Imo it's completely the writers perspective. We have the choice to watch it or not ..but they are not here to cater to a specific fan group...thy may kill abhinav anytime n unite abhira but even then, it's their call.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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The leap was brought to follow the other sp shows where leads seperated and fl is paired with another man and draw comparison between umarkaid ex love vs stable new love. Ex imlie ghum anupama etc. There is no point asking for logic.


Regarding marketing of abhira/navra, they are trying to cater two types of audience, who does trends everyday and wants abhira and offline folks who don't care. They make seperate posts for engagement and cut scenes in hotstar and include scenes for offline. What's funny is, despite Shahi chacha shoving half lies down throat and half of online people agreeing to the same, this leap wasn't revolutionary or brought anything new on table. Trp is stable, marginally 0.1 increase when they are paying extra salary for 3/4 people. They trying to push this narrative where maa is so bechari lachar who will stay in poverty when she's literal heiress, her wealth spawning three decades and three separate families. The kids are cute no doubt, and I will go as far as saying abhir is 60% reason for show ongoing, the kid is amazing actor and fit so well that makers are basing entire epis on his little shoulders. There is nothing beyond abhir, writers have systematically destroyed other characters and their relationship. Even if they suddenly want to show muskan kairav parth shefali drama, none cares. They aren't important.


Regarding akshara, she is truly a failure. I say this as abhi lover and a viewer who's been watching ye rishta since it started when I was in my school 😂😂 I watched naitik akshara, kaira on and off and of course this gen thanks to harshad. Makers didn't put enough effort to write characters this time, they had family drama during og and then completely changed the story to love drama during kaira where story completely revolved around them. This time they tried khichdi of two sisters one man which failed, aro didn't develop as proper vamp, the love story didn't develop, the marriage didn't develop, the in laws relationship didn't happen, the leaps came and went and more came. Nothing kick started the story, the only time or went 3 and above was abhira confessions. Thats it.


Coming to this leap, it's again half baked. They brought orphan nav, then brought his surname, his sister, his kinda sorta mom, then his taxis, 7500 in a day salary, his DDP over the actual fl of show. It's come to the point where it's like nav delivered the baby out of his own body and Ak is his caretaker 😂😂 ak who apparently lived for her kid don't remember her brother like ex BIL, don't remember her other kid who died, don't remember the good memories, don't care her kid wanted to meet his real dad, don't care how to break the news to him and gently adjust him to three parents. No, she just care about her reasons where she wants her achi perfect family. She will always shield her disgusting family who are reason for majority of life issues and bash her ex husband's family. Her bade papa can hold collar of abhi and send him to jail and she will cry, one word against nav and she will roar. Let me don't even start on joke of her careers 😂😂😂😂 music therapy was a fancy name, she did nothing. Goenkas are such useless bunch who raised their kids as useless jobless careerless ambitionless gaslighter abusers narcissists.



I can rant on this bakwas character all day God damn she's pathetic. Shes no feminist.

Edited by oh_nakhrewaali - 2 years ago
Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: NAKWrites

This show is so off track that to shake it off I am rewatching HC's previous shows. Completed Tere Liye. Wat a show. Can't believe it's a ek Maa show. Now watching Bepanaah. Wow.


I am debating whether to rewatch Bepannah. Captain Aditya Hooda was a whole other level! Sad that they ended the show abruptly.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Phir_Mohabbat

Coming to this leap, it's again half baked. They brought orphan nav, then brought his surname, his sister, his kinda sorta mom, then his taxis, 7500 in a day salary, his DDP over the actual fl of show. It's come to the point where it's like nav delivered the baby out of his own body and Ak is his caretaker 😂😂 ak who apparently lived for her kid don't remember her brother like ex BIL, don't remember her other kid who died, don't remember the good memories, don't care her kid wanted to meet his real dad, don't care how to break the news to him and gently adjust him to three parents. No, she just care about her reasons where she wants her achi perfect family. She will always shield her disgusting family who are reason for majority of life issues and bash her ex husband's family. Her bade papa can hold collar of abhi and send him to jail and she will cry, one word against nav and she will roar. Let me don't even start on joke of her careers 😂😂😂😂 music therapy was a fancy name, she did nothing. Goenkas are such useless bunch who raised their kids as useless jobless careerless ambitionless gaslighter abusers narcissists.

Word to your post!

Star Plus show means love triangle is a must and RS bows down to SP and brought Nav as parallel lead to justify AbhiRa separation.

This leap is even worse than 2nd Gen Leap.. coz the FL AK is highly delusional and gaslighting person who will forget her faults and blame her permanent punchbag aka ex husband Abhimanyu.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Go ahead and watch. Harshad lived Aditya Hooda.

Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Krinya

Sorry I didn't get the point of your post . Frm what i gather you want abhira and akshara put a full stop to it when she boarded the bus, wrote abhinavs name on the bc and married abhinav . It's not char butchering , they changed the story for trp which was well accepted by the audience as it's reflected in the trp.


I wrote this post to mainly address 1. the hate that people have for characters on this fictional show and how they direct their opinions on social media platforms where one is expected to maintain a certain decorum. 2. How the writers are not helping 1. 😊
I understand that the show runs on TRP. But that doesn’t mean ke woh log kuch bhi dikha sakte hai.



Imo it's completely the writers perspective. We have the choice to watch it or not ..but they are not here to cater to a specific fan group...thy may kill abhinav anytime n unite abhira but even then, it's their call.


Yes, the show is the writers’ perspective. But looking at what they have done to completely change the “Rishta” vibe to address viewership and change identities of characters and narratives to such an extent is sad. When I, being a third generation follower, am having this opinion, I can totally understand how people stopped watching when they started butchering the very premise of YRKKH.

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