Justified glorification - Page 3

Originally posted by: PeacefulLove

Yeah I agree the only issue even I see with Abhinav is being too friendly with Abhimanyu but that is the reason he is called "Acha aadmi". He just take life as is and don't hold grudges. He gave it back to Abhimanyu when needed but very next moment he forgets and realized that Abhimanyu also has right as father. There is no anger in him.

I feel akshara struggles and all are well played out. The story I think just cannot be focused all on her as she has done mistakes too and it will become too boring because that's what all ITV serials do. I currently like the balance of relationships they are showing with all these different characters which makes it interesting to watch. If it was all Abhira focused I think many of us would have quit anyways as they never clicked to us ( for me after their marriage).

Yes I also feel thar way. Her struggles were shown to us in detail that's why we sympathize more with her

But now , they r focusing on akshu abhinav as a unit fighting for abhir . Also they're trying to define the contrast between abhim and abhin...hence more focus on nav.

The cake scene was really well done ..I almost teared up...it was the biggest acknowledgement of his sacrifices and patience.

So yeah for once it was imp for abhim to know but at the end of it bhains ke aage been bajane wali baat ho gayi ke is admi ko kuch dikhta hi nai apna haq apni zid ke siva. He reacted like that in khera kaand also..may be the writers don't plan to redeem him ..I can't believe they took his dialogues from the forum 😆 its aa though he has nothing in defense.. bas uski mummy loudspeaker ke jaise woh din woh din repeat karegi bas.

I don't see abhira anywhere seriously..it won't be the usual lovers reunion..they might be bk to each other under some.majboori n again separate ..with kids around , there won't be abhira anymore specially what it used to be.

Originally posted by: Krinya

Yes I also feel thar way. Her struggles were shown to us in detail that's why we sympathize more with her

But now , they r focusing on akshu abhinav as a unit fighting for abhir . Also they're trying to define the contrast between abhim and abhin...hence more focus on nav.

The cake scene was really well done ..I almost teared up...it was the biggest acknowledgement of his sacrifices and patience.

So yeah for once it was imp for abhim to know but at the end of it bhains ke aage been bajane wali baat ho gayi ke is admi ko kuch dikhta hi nai apna haq apni zid ke siva. He reacted like that in khera kaand also..may be the writers don't plan to redeem him ..I can't believe they took his dialogues from the forum 😆 its aa though he has nothing in defense.. bas uski mummy loudspeaker ke jaise woh din woh din repeat karegi bas.

I don't see abhira anywhere seriously..it won't be the usual lovers reunion..they might be bk to each other under some.majboori n again separate ..with kids around , there won't be abhira anymore specially what it used to be.

Very well said.,💯 Agree.

The only thing for akshara to move on was singing and did that as well yesterday for Abhinav. So Abhira reunion seems lame to me

Yeah I too have a feeling one of the writers come to this forum as I see some comments coming as dialogues or feedback changing script.. I heard someone said that song and guitar Abhinav will be doing but it didn't happen in episode. Not on Twitter so not sure if it was Twitter or forum. But Rajan once said his team reads India forums comments.

Originally posted by: umawanderer

I have finally decided to post this...

I think makers are going on the right track by glorifying Nav. Yep.. Although I don't see it as glorifying. But I am borrowing the word from the toxic Abhira Fandom.

Agree or not... Nav's love for Abhir is not given equal treatment as compared to Abhira's Love for their child. By the toxic fans.. The fans get triggered when they hear 'Mera Beta' from Nav's mouth, Who still believes in regressive thoughts like blood is thicker than water. Who does not want to see Nav as a person but as a tool to connect the great Abhira? He is already called Bachcha chor, bhade ka baap, etc...

They would celebrate when Abhir kicks Nav out of his life.

No one doubts Ak love and sacrifices for Abhir. Many do not have an ounce on the love Abhi has for Junior.. khoon ka rishta.. all that thing..

But with Nav, If he shows any sort of right on him as a father, toxic fandom erupts with rage. They do not even see him as a father, They just see him as an 'aaya' type of person.

If he says he loves the child.. then they have a problem.

If he threatens a doctor who is negligent(along with ak), Then they have a problem

If he feels something is off about his son before ak, then they have a problem(Although that problem does not appear when randomly Abhi gets a stomach ache for Abhir's heart surgery. Why didn't Ak also get stomach pain? Wasn't she the mother.. seriously they are showing that she is just a vessel for childbirth as the soul connection was there for only AbhiM)

When He is crying after hearing about his son's deadly ailment, they have a problem.

If he is grateful to AbhiM for doing the surgery, then they have a problem

If he is a little stern about AbhiM's lack of time management as a concerned parent, then they have a problem.

If Abhir says his father 'Nav' taught him some good things... then they have a problem.

If he compared it to 'Nadababa', then they have a problem.

Basically, they would have preferred if Nav did not have any deep connection with Abhir or if Abhir forgot about him after meeting AbhiM. They cannot see a father-son bond between Abhinav and Abhir... Because that is only for AbhiM.

There are already clips and scene analyses to show how Abhir is like his 'real' father and mother. Abhir is mini AbhiM.

When the truth will be revealed again.. I am sure few people will go on and on about how Nav cannot love Abhir like a real father. How the real father can only love the child like Abhi.. This will be brought up again and again..I can already see Surekha/Mahima/or even Manjiri going Khoon Khoon hota hai paani nahi

After the truth reveals, Only Nav's love will be questioned more and more as Ak is the real mother and Abhi is a real father. Their love will never be questioned.. Nav has to prove that he loves the child just because he is not related by blood.

The narrative never was degrading Ak's role as a mother. It is just when Nav is shown as a parent, then the pseudo-feminist posts appear telling everyone that Maa ka haq cheen gaya.. women are not just baby-making machines... comments like, "Nav tells the story about his lactation troubles next." All because He is shown as a father.

Ak is shown as a nice mother, who raised her son with proper values. She was the one who taught him to fight against bullies, she was the one who taught him the values of family. She is shown as a concerned mother. She checked all the arrangements and it was clear that Abhir's health will not deteriorate further if he went to the US, Then everyone would have pointed that.. But every doctor in Birla's house was OH.. so According to ITV, it might have worked going to the US. (Not commenting on the realistic aspect of it as I am not a doctor and these series have no connection with realistic surgery)

Here also, Many times it is Ak who decides about Abhir,. She insisted on different surgen, going to the US, etc. The only time Nav had a firm stand was when he wanted to take Abhir to AbhM. And nope, She is not shown as a mother at all. She was also there when they consoled Abhir about his ailment, But nope, ak is not shown as a mother at all.She decided to stay back at the camp for Abhirs happiness.. but nope she is not a mother at all.

The times when her motherhood is questioned when she hurts precious Abhimanyu. The sad tortured soul will find other ways to self-pity with or without Ak's help...thank you.

They see that AbhiM lost 6 precious years of his son growing up but also does not acknowledge that someone else who saw the precious years will have a deep connection with the child.

I hope there is more and more Nav glorification as writers assert their story onto the Toxic fandom, making puke-worthy comments on Abhinav's parenthood.

Of course, I acknowledge that any character placed opposite Abhi would have been disliked. If he were a grey character, people would be opposed to his bad qualities, if he is a white character, people are opposed to that.

But why call Abhira fans teenagers and dismiss them or their views? So they like a toxic character in a show, what's wrong with that? There are fun, comical posts made about both Abhi and Nav cause, yeah, a show that was supposed to be female-centric has become about these fathers. Also, the problem is not recent, people had an issue with Ak not being given enough POV and stuff even before the leap. It's always been like this, but now with Nav added, it's worse.

Even if you are a Nav fan, how can you ignore that Ak is getting basically no time with Abhir, and they have shown very little bonding as compared to other itv shows. And the peak of it was in the last episode, where they credited Nav with teaching Abhir how to deal with bullies instead of Ak, who literally has been dealing with bullies throughout the season and was shown teaching Abhir to fight back. All of it is done to glorify Nav and guilt trip Abhi, I am not saying Nav doesn't deserve glory, or Abhi doesn't deserve guilt, but at the very least, Ak doesn't deserve to be a wallpaper.

Besides, the crux of it all is how Nav was introduced. How he himself has said, Ak needed him cause a child needs the father's name. How Ak was shown as a housewife at the end of the leap instead of having literally any other career. How it makes zero sense that a girl from such a rich and powerful family had to depend on someone else and take money from the said person.

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