Tere Ishq Mein Ghayal Episode Discussion Thread #1 - Page 62

Originally posted by: urmita

I guess ye ayi to vo bhi aega...

They have to show how her parents died

So that we can sympathize with her ...

Her child being taken away...

Etc ..

Iss chakar mein logh Arjun Bijlani aur Niyati ke characters ke backstory nahi jaan paayenge😆

Originally posted by: dellzcreationz

I just saw the epi of TVD "Blood Brothers", when Stefan and Damon were turned ... Bonnie's great grandmother had told Stefan that Katherine was always compelling him to drink his blood someway ...and he didn't knew ...while as Damon didn't need to... because he wanted to but not at the cost of drinking human blood which is what he regretted...

And they showed that Stefan had killed his father and in this show Veer did because to save Armaan...

So am talking about how they are making Armaan the complete villain of actually turning Veer....when Armaan was already a bhediya

Originally posted by: dellzcreationz

They have to show how her parents died

So that we can sympathize with her ...

Her child being taken away...

Etc ..

Originally posted by: urmita

Well like I have said before also the casting choice and what the actors are doing with Armaan and Veer - just this is making Armaan way more creepy and intense, almost sinister looking in many scenes where for Stefan I felt sympathy and care.... similarly Veer's emotions are a lot more visible and even when doing bad stuff u can see where he is coming from and feel sympathy for him a lot more, jab k Damon was both written and acted such a way that he came accross as sly clever, vengeful and toxic even...he was the bad boy, even when he was trying to be good for Elena...

Yaha without even changing any story inhone chize palat di, I don't know ye direction execution hai ya actors ki apni style but Jo sympathy Stefan pe ati thi veer pe a Rahi and jo discomfort bad feeling Damon k lie ati thi Armaan k lie a Rahi...

Upar se yes S1 k end they are actually changing 😄 simplifying I would say... Salvatore brothers turning story was a bit messy and complex right? I believe Kathrine turned them both and Stefan wasn't this big bad reaper from the get go...their dad was going to kill them so Stefan ended up killing their dad and that's what made him snap, after that Damon was all about not drinking human blood and letting himself die without completing transition... Stefan didn't wanna be left alone so he killed people and brought them infront of Damon and forced him until Damon has to drink...and so Damon was like fine I will never leave u alone and u will regret this...I guess this is sort of what happened...the whole thing was written such a way that inspite of killing innocent people, killing his dad and making Damon drink blood, Stefan came accross as a victim, it made u feel like bechare pe kitna kuch bita, phir bhi dekho permanently vaise nehi raha, he came back from it, such a good guy ..and Damon came accross like Kathrine ka blood tune pi, tujhe compell bhi nehi ki thi, phir jab turn hobe ki bari ayi to tujhe marna tha...and ok Stefan ne galat Kia, but hai to Bhai, bade Bhai ko khona nehi chahta tha uske lie dushmani? Shame on u👻

But yaha sab ulta kar dia.... Armaan bhediya bante hi full reaper vo chair pe devil style mein baithe dead bodies scattered around, veer tab bhi accha baccha and human tha while Armaan was full evil....veer was like inspite of believing his brother got kavya caught, he was caring, trying to stop him defuse the situation...papa k sath confrontation mein bhi seemed daddy actually wanted to save veer from all this, veer was constantly trying to stop big bro and dad fight... Armaan made a very mean move there, he didn't turn veer coz he didn't wanna be alone for eternity, apparently he didn't even feel that much brotherly love...dad was being partial to veer and he turned Veer out of spite...and veer like he said chose to off the older guy and save his brother...you cud see all his emotions written on his face, that he really felt his brother broke his heart, while Armaan came accross as not caring cold...so here it's like veer k lie sympathy aega, uss bechare ne bas saccha pyaar Kia tha, uska pyaar uska bhai sabne dhoka dia, bhediya banake chod dia against his will when he didn't need to... unlike Damon, Veer ko Armaan bite na karta to veer ek human life ji pata, mar nehi jata immediately...and apparently Armaan never apologized too in all these years...so veer is coming across as the victim jispe sympathy ae... Armaan while not a villein yet but has all the possibilities...he wasn't quite loving was he, comes accross as the toxic bad brother... Stefan's care for Damon that was a constant no matter in what phase he was, infact TVD fans were quite proud of their Salvatore brothers brotherly love 😍🤣 but yaha Armaan k taraf se vo love utna strong hai hi nehi...

But I guess it's good...ladki to Veer ne hi milni hai...to Armaan k lie buda feel karane se ya uske dukhi atma banke sacrifice karne se accha change the story and make him go villein it's style...spice things up a bit...

Originally posted by: DeepthiSunil

ok u find armaan creeepy..I find armaan and Veer both creepy around Reem because the glaring age gap is difficult to digest..so I try my best not to get swayed by the romance in the show..you may be a Karan fan and more biased to him, understandable as I am a more stefan/ Gashmeer fan so I am biased to him as well..so when I saw that scene I saw him acting out of years of abuse he suffered at his dads hands..when parents abuse one child, it’s natural for that child to develop that level of hate towards the other sibling..so ts not a mean move, its a natural one..if you haven’t watched, i recommed movie qala, brilliant movie that covers this..back to this topic, lets wait for next episode to see armaans side of story to make any sort of conclusion..everyone thought armaan betrayed kavya etc becoz veer used to keep saying this, but when the story finally reached that portion it was revealed that it was veers misconception..and about the brothers bond, the tvd show took 2 seasons to develop the brothers bond..here we barely scraped season 1..i still remember armaan when veer was stuck in the tomb, he refused to leave till he rescues Veer as well..i believe, amisdt all these bad blood in the past, the brothers still care for eo..Stefan barely cared for damon in season 1..even in tomb, he went to get damon because elena asked him to..in seaon 1 ending, stefan saves damon and thats when the show really focused on brothers and reaffirmed this by season 2 ending when stefan sacrificed..

But just to clarify mine, I am not a karan fan...infact I dont think there is anyone on itv I can claim I am a fan of...The age gap well yes vo to alag hi funda hai 🤪u are right dono k sath itna glaring age gap hai, I am not even focusing on romance that way, like going dreamy over a jodi n all, not happening in TIMG...🤪But u see its just that see I always liked stefan...he had such a hero thing going on even when he wasnt one😛...And Damon was the creepy one for me...always found him toxic, selfish vengeful...Now here, Gashmeer doesn't produce that Stefan effect for me, he looks creepy, and Veer ko to creepy dikhna hi tha, but Veer looks less toxic than Damon somehow...uska emotions already dikhta hai, S1 Damon was simply bad guy atleast to me...I cant give u a proper reason or explain to u...and I am pretty sure I shouldn't in case u are a Gashmeer fan😆 But its just that his portrayal of Armaan is somehow not working for me...and lets not forget Armaan already Esha k sath romance kar raha, creepy age gap k sath🤣Veer wala to slow burn hai, nok jhok, jhagra, convo, dance, romance to ho nehi raha to filhaal abhi he is not looking as much creepy😆 And like someone told me today here, Armaan is a bit less than Stefan, and Veer is a bit more than Damon...atleast thats how I feel...

Originally posted by: urmita

Well ofcourse we all have different opinions and choices...I get your pov maybe you are right...I mean yes the points u said are technically right...

But just to clarify mine, I am not a karan fan...infact I dont think there is anyone on itv I can claim I am a fan of...The age gap well yes vo to alag hi funda hai 🤪u are right dono k sath itna glaring age gap hai, I am not even focusing on romance that way, like going dreamy over a jodi n all, not happening in TIMG...🤪But u see its just that see I always liked stefan...he had such a hero thing going on even when he wasnt one😛...And Damon was the creepy one for me...always found him toxic, selfish vengeful...Now here, Gashmeer doesn't produce that Stefan effect for me, he looks creepy, and Veer ko to creepy dikhna hi tha, but Veer looks less toxic than Damon somehow...uska emotions already dikhta hai, S1 Damon was simply bad guy atleast to me...I cant give u a proper reason or explain to u...and I am pretty sure I shouldn't in case u are a Gashmeer fan😆 But its just that his portrayal of Armaan is somehow not working for me...and lets not forget Armaan already Esha k sath romance kar raha, creepy age gap k sath🤣Veer wala to slow burn hai, nok jhok, jhagra, convo, dance, romance to ho nehi raha to filhaal abhi he is not looking as much creepy😆 And like someone told me today here, Armaan is a bit less than Stefan, and Veer is a bit more than Damon...atleast thats how I feel...

Originally posted by: DeepthiSunil

I get what you are saying..so apparently Mamta and team wanted Armaan to be a total softie only..but Gashmeer apparently didn’t think it made sense to him and refused to do a full softie..honestly I don’t think with Gashmeer’s physique and overall body language suits Stefan also..when the overall show is line to line copy, I don’t think it was wise of Gash to do things differently..people who watched TVD will always find it weird..

@bold: accha...I didn't know that...I am pretty sure he hasn't watched TVD...

Originally posted by: urmita

Yes Exactly....you got what I want to say 😃 ha abhi ye flashback pe thoda different Kia but till now for the leads atleast it's been a dialogue by dialogue copy of TVD...jab dialogues scenes sab kuch copy hai to bich mein bas character ka body language different ho jae wrong to lagega na...

@bold: accha...I didn't know that...I am pretty sure he hasn't watched TVD...

In TIMG Indian were wolves r 28+ so we need to understand how they look is normal 😆

Originally posted by: DeepthiSunil

I get what you are saying..so apparently Mamta and team wanted Armaan to be a total softie only..but Gashmeer apparently didn’t think it made sense to him and refused to do a full softie..honestly I don’t think with Gashmeer’s physique and overall body language suits Stefan also..when the overall show is line to line copy, I don’t think it was wise of Gash to do things differently..people who watched TVD will always find it weird..

Exactly...

At first , I didn't approve of Karan (even though being his fan) protraying Veer who Is a Damon ka copy ...

And I am still watching the show for timepass and not shipping VeerSha or ArSha or any one ... because I am not watching it for Karan ...

Because whenever I look at Karan ...I feel kahi yeh zyada na over na kare Damon ki acting ko copy karte hue...

But to my satisfaction...he has managed to not remind me of Damon, Ian which is a plus point...

I always had this intention that agar TVD ka sasta version aayega toh it should be Ansh Bagri ...

And was thinking twice to even watch the show because I really didn't like Karan protraying Damon 🤪

(Because I couldn't even in my wildest dreams think that he will replicate Damon)...

Similarly I don't feel ki Gashmeer is doing justice to Stefan's character because of his physique and not being such lovey dovey character

But kya kare...we have to anyways jhelo the show for another month...