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I agree..

P has got a lenient treatment compared to Sai..

And I know you are not personally attacking me...

But I have not justified V ka abuse... if you read my reviews... you would already know that I do point out his mistakes on a regular basis.

The excuses are the reasoning which I try to see... which doesn't make sense most of the time.

But for all intents and purposes... Sai is linked to V... as of now. So whatever he does has implications on her..there is no foreseeable escape... now with kids in picture. That's the reason I notice and analyse his actions.

And no I am not shipping Jags with Sai. That's too horrible. I am not convinced of why Sai even allows Jags with Saavi. I voiced my displeasure at the dress change episode... even though Jags by all accounts is a reformed guy. It's not safe, its not right and it's certainly not acceptable for a toddler to be with an unknown man unchapereaoned late at night and she comes back with a dress change 😔

As for the redemption... coming from your point... if Jags and P as antagonists can change, why not V as ML????

Counter this to how Ash has fallen... as much as I hate V ka character arc... I don't think I will be able to forgive her ... I have maintained that she doesn't deserve to be called Aai post Shruti track. But she is irrelevant to the story in the long run... it is V who matters and it is his redemption I will always wait for....

Until I quit totally 😭 or the show ends.

Originally posted by: Moor278

Apar5 from the manhandling and verbal abuse...

The proper crimes are agreeing for surrogacy knowing P is medically and legally unfit to become a surrogate. If he had been absent at that moment, he could have been excused... but he was present and did not stop the procedure in Sais absence and knowing she was against P as a choice. That's taking away a mother's right.

The current one being arresting her on unfair grounds... just because he wanted to keep Sai away.

I am not counting the baby snatching pre leap as of now because while he did not guess P's intentions (which is quite clear post leap too) I don't think he wanted to keep the baby to P all the while. Still it was wrong too but not as wrong.

As for Sai... I am fine if she did not tell Saavi because she was hoping V would come. But after knowing VP are married and giving up her rights.. Sai should have told something to Saavi. Even if we say she wasn't wrong till then... she was post this. There was no reason to keep Saavi away from truth when Sai had accepted that there is no going back to V.

Rest I agree... V at this point is behaving as a father... and not just Saavi ka father... he is partly lamenting the loss of previous 2 kids... there is no way he is going to let this child go away from him now.

Like Sai ... he will move heaven and earth to make it possible 👍🏼

Just disagree with @bold part.

That was the worst he ever did to Sai! That was Sai’s only chance at motherhood and him snatching Vinayak from her and giving to PL.

Plus he let her suffer - he saw it but did nothing about it, did not even assure her that its temporary n he will fix it. In morning we saw him happily wave goodby to Vinu going to work n his assigned aai while Sai watched on. If they showed him assuring Sai like he is to PL now he gotten have gotten some benefit of doubt.

For a woman who was diagnosed infertile nothing can be more traumatic than this. Her only chance at motherhood being taken away. Add to this her being orphan and this was her only chance of blood relation. He took that away.

The reason no one ever feels intenselyfor Sai is because her pain is never shown, like they do for Virat n PL who cries buckets claiming how they r wronged.

As I mentioned in my previous post the things they are showing they have no way to rectify n hence they r only highlighting Virat and his side ignoring Sai’s. If she got emotional outburst after that Vinu snatching scene with proper dialogues showing her emotional state no one would ever forget that.

This is crappy writing with even worst execution.

Originally posted by: Moor278

Apar5 from the manhandling and verbal abuse...

The proper crimes are agreeing for surrogacy knowing P is medically and legally unfit to become a surrogate. If he had been absent at that moment, he could have been excused... but he was present and did not stop the procedure in Sais absence and knowing she was against P as a choice. That's taking away a mother's right.

The current one being arresting her on unfair grounds... just because he wanted to keep Sai away.

I am not counting the baby snatching pre leap as of now because while he did not guess P's intentions (which is quite clear post leap too) I don't think he wanted to keep the baby to P all the while. Still it was wrong too but not as wrong.

As for Sai... I am fine if she did not tell Saavi because she was hoping V would come. But after knowing VP are married and giving up her rights.. Sai should have told something to Saavi. Even if we say she wasn't wrong till then... she was post this. There was no reason to keep Saavi away from truth when Sai had accepted that there is no going back to V.

Rest I agree... V at this point is behaving as a father... and not just Saavi ka father... he is partly lamenting the loss of previous 2 kids... there is no way he is going to let this child go away from him now.

Like Sai ... he will move heaven and earth to make it possible 👍🏼

I agree he doesn't interfere between surrogacy but again you can call him selfish as after sai is also giving in it due to her selfish mother instinct but until she feared loosing vinu hence she also involved in that again about now Sai's arrested he is feared as sai both have trust issues it is he just in capacity that he can use it if sai at capacity then she would did it

I understand... I meant to say that he did not get what P was trying to do... if he had things would not have happened the way it had... and certainly post leap too... we see him not recognising how wrong he was at that moment. Till he does that... it doesn't really matter if Sai ka breakdown was shown or not... we as audience sympathize with her....

It is his mindset at that time and even today that doesn't understand this...

Rest all are proper crimes.

Originally posted by: Saisavi

I agree he doesn't interfere between surrogacy but again you can call him selfish as after sai is also giving in it due to her selfish mother instinct but until she feared loosing vinu hence she also involved in that

We can call Sai selfish but- think from her POV. It was an extreme situation for her. That was her ONLY EGG! They showed her only chance for motherhood.

How would she terminate that embryo? Just cause Virat wronged her? She had no choice but to believe his words that PL is only womb and she will be mother. Untill things changed and PL started sabotaging pregnancy ignoring medication etc.

Sai could have complained but she chose to trust her husband n those she considered family.

Once again it all misfit because Sai’s side never highlighted. She is literally suffering consequences of Virat n PL’s two days lovestory. How Sai’s presence affects Virat n PL life is of interest of makers not What happens to Sai.

Originally posted by: Sab07

We can call Sai selfish but- think from her POV. It was an extreme situation for her. That was her ONLY EGG! They showed her only chance for motherhood.

How would she terminate that embryo? Just cause Virat wronged her? She had no choice but to believe his words that PL is only womb and she will be mother. Untill things changed and PL started sabotaging pregnancy ignoring medication etc.

Sai could have complained but she chose to trust her husband n those she considered family.

Once again it all misfit because Sai’s side never highlighted. She is literally suffering consequences of Virat n PL’s two days lovestory. How Sai’s presence affects Virat n PL life is of interest of makers not What happens to Sai.

Exactly even virat considered it as last chance to became father i know there is misconduct on the part sai by family but i am talking about virat point of view many people called him buccha chor for taking his own child

Being a senior IPS officer he does not follow rules. Thats the irritating part. They r causing society to distrust police

Violated rules of surrogacy, didn't make P sign papers .

I don't think P took the child pre leap for a.short period . She was very clear . It was her baby as told to her mother.

BK and all supported P. No single person supported Sai

ML was so horrible he didn't search for Geeta or for his wife who didn't return for a.long time.

V loved Sai before Shruti track and confession and was worried about her fever, her legs etc

After confession he treated her like trash.

Now also the arrest.

Good Sai didn't come back .

First only P slapped her for Samrat gone. Now full family would have slapped her or closed the door on her for Vinu missing or virat would have got her arrested.

Originally posted by: Moor278

I agree..

P has got a lenient treatment compared to Sai..

And I know you are not personally attacking me...

But I have not justified V ka abuse... if you read my reviews... you would already know that I do point out his mistakes on a regular basis.

The excuses are the reasoning which I try to see... which doesn't make sense most of the time.

But for all intents and purposes... Sai is linked to V... as of now. So whatever he does has implications on her..there is no foreseeable escape... now with kids in picture. That's the reason I notice and analyse his actions.

And no I am not shipping Jags with Sai. That's too horrible. I am not convinced of why Sai even allows Jags with Saavi. I voiced my displeasure at the dress change episode... even though Jags by all accounts is a reformed guy. It's not safe, its not right and it's certainly not acceptable for a toddler to be with an unknown man unchapereaoned late at night and she comes back with a dress change 😔

As for the redemption... coming from your point... if Jags and P as antagonists can change, why not V as ML????

Counter this to how Ash has fallen... as much as I hate V ka character arc... I don't think I will be able to forgive her ... I have maintained that she doesn't deserve to be called Aai post Shruti track. But she is irrelevant to the story in the long run... it is V who matters and it is his redemption I will always wait for....

Until I quit totally 😭 or the show ends.

@bold I kinda get it. We want to find reasons behind his disgusting actions to pacify ourselves. But it kinda gives makers confidence that no matter what he does, people will see his reasons not his actions as ml asked fans to do. And they don't even mind giving his reasons too. Not a single scene where it shows him feeling something positive about sai. It is only hate, disgust, anger from him. Other side sai angst can be seen. Even while leaving, she got flashback of virat, savi and her which shows she kinda want such happy family with him. But nothing from virat's side not even when he played her husband in a play. When makers themselves don't want to show virat side feelings for sai, why should we conclude his imaginary feelings when his actions prove otherwise.

Whether makers take feedback or not, we shouldn't increase their arrogance by trying to understand ml's unreasonable actions. It is makers work to convince audience about virat feelings for sai not audience business.

Virat actions don't deserve analysis. If we completely give up on him and discuss his actions as shown in episodes, then makers may get alert and try to work on their ml character.

By dialogues and scenes, it is confirm that they stalk twitter and forums to see feedback.

They should know making ml acceptable to audience is impossible, they should work on his character. But we are at a such where we would be grateful if they show virat uttering single sorry let alone his redemption.

That's why makers get upper hand. Trp definitely matters. But online audience feedback equally matters that's why they had to consider surrogacy complaints even for the sake of it.

Makers should know virat's actions are not acceptable just because he is ml and end game is sairat.

Personally I feel the reason audience hate V with such passion is the lack of writing/screenplay to show that he is wrong and faces the repercussions of his mistakes.

Sai's mistakes always get called out and she gets 'punished' whether sometimes exponentially. Sai walking out with Vinu was not totally wrong but she is face's instant punishment so quickly.

Compare that to Virat, his lack of humanity to Sai, his harsh expectations of her, failure to show compassion to her, even his lack of integrity as a policeman to call out his family crimes are never punished. It is always shown that Chavans and their crimes, including Virat's will always be forgotten and whitewashed.

This is what triggers audience and has led to the extreme hate for him. Those saying he lost a child too.. I might be wrong but he made a choice. Between Patralekha and the child, he decided that having Patralekha in CN was more important than stopping Sai from leaving. He had choices. He could have pacified Sai but he refused and him hitting below the belt started from that episode where he accused Sai of causing Samrat's death. Again conveniently forgetting his own family members' crimes. Even now, whenever Sai brings up his mistakes with Vinu, he brushes them aside and claims that he has never done any wrong.

It is this lack of repentance and acknowledgement of his share of sins that has made audience hate him to this extent. N if the issue involved merely marital integrity, audience might turn a blind eye. Involving children and taking children away from rightful mothers is extremely triggering.

Originally posted by: Moor278

I understand... I meant to say that he did not get what P was trying to do... if he had things would not have happened the way it had... and certainly post leap too... we see him not recognising how wrong he was at that moment. Till he does that... it doesn't really matter if Sai ka breakdown was shown or not... we as audience sympathize with her....

It is his mindset at that time and even today that doesn't understand this...

Rest all are proper crimes.

That is where my problem is too- he didnt need to know PL’s intentions. He needed to know his wife’s emotional state. How she would feel n her insecurities. Since miscarriage, nothing he did spoke that he loves Sai.

But seeing how things are post leap- Its bit late to argue on this as he is even worst now. Only thing that will open his eyes is PL being wrong n HE HIMSELF discovering that Not Sai. She did it once and he still chose PL.

If PL voluntarily removes herself he will never understand he was wrong- PL was wrong, never ever. So it has to be PL being negative.


@Bold- It is true but as I said in my previous post to Rosy. They want Sai n Viray on equal level despite Virat being clearly wrong n Sai most times reacting to his action. This should be balanced creatively but they do it by one sided narrative. They put so much weight on Virat side that Sai’s get dissolved, if audience cant forget they make Sai forget.