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Originally posted by: Moor278

Personally... my opinion is this...

There is no excuse for the crimes V committed. V at this moment does not deserve anyone. Not even P.

And even though she is a vamp and has been waiting for him and she brought this upon herself and deserves all this etc... I don't think any woman should be treated the way she is...

So if anyone is saying I feel bad for Sai as a woman... they 'should' feel bad for P as well... if being woman is the only criteria.

I am fine if anyone says P deserves this treatment because she is an antagonist. Totally justifiable argument.

Only saying being a woman is not 👎🏼

Because then the argument that V abuses woman falls flat.

That apart... V needs to redeem, repent, regret, cry, beg, grovel... do all this to Sai and his kids before he can have a future with them.

The problem lies in the overall Outlook of looking at V... sorry to say but many have not been able to disassociate themselves from the NB/V link. I myself do waver in that zone once in a while. Not going to lie.

But at the end of day they are only portraying a role...

Sai is not Ayesha... V is not NB.

Also... not that Ghum writers and creatives have shown much interest in doing this... but post leap there are feelers.

Jagtap being a major one... if he, a legit murderer can reform and change...

P in her mother avatar (only) can change ... why can't V????

He is a ML after all... until and unless there is a confirmation on new ML.

If everyone gets a chance to change and reform, why shouldn't V get it?

But the bigger question is... if he gets it... if he changes and if he reforms to a better version will this same section of audience accept him or keep looking at him from the blackened lenses??????

Knowing Ghums past history there is less scope... but if it happens... will there be acceptability. ❓

And until then, can this daily argument about how he wrong he is can stop???? Its getting tiresome.

Everyone is waiting for a sign that things are gonna change. The hope never dies.

P.S. nothing personal. Felt like ranting 😔

I agree...I am new here and ur review is among the ones I look forward to

In Ghum,it is always not about who is more wrong or right...Because Sai and Virat are neither completely right nor completely wrong.

Instead of watching with right/wrong lens,if we try to understand why the character behaves like that in particular situation, it will be an easy watch.

As you have said ,when makers can redeem Jagtap beautifully and pakhi to some extent, I hope Virat too will be redeemed for his present unjustified madness

That's the hope that helps me to watch...Sai's reasons however justified they may be,keeping Savi's identity under wraps is a huge mistake on her part and she is facing the karma now.

Once it's over hers will be a clean slate while others have to pay for their mistakes.

Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

Exactly abuse of power like Virat did happens in real life for sure.

But that man won't be hailed as honest police officer and best man in the world by everyone like Virat is being hailed.

No woman will go to the man who snatched her two kids from her and wanted her to suffer in jail by putting false charges.

He snatched vinu from her despite knowing she can't be mother again. Vinu is her only hope.

He snatched savi from her, despite knowing she has no one in the world except her daughter.

In both scenarios sai begged him to not snatch her kid.

Sai and her pain never mattered to him.

Just imagine the scenario if savi doesn't ask for Sai, virat would have happily lead his family with pakhi, vinu and savi by putting sai in jail for false charges.

Is this called love?

Don't know how come people say they are fighting like real parents and couple.

Please no. It is completely abuse of power where one is victim and one is abuser.

So kindly don't EQUALISE them for ship sake.

Forget love, this behaviour is evil, wicked.. The aankhon ke saamne trumped up charge that Sai assaulted a police officer when everyone saw and knew that she only pulled away from her and the lady fell down.. The jhoote kidnapping charges.. Such incidents in our country are so widespread..of abuse of power, police brutality, naked injustice that watching scenes like today's is extremely triggering. I feel the makers are going overboard by showing such things being done by the "good" people in the story.. If it was villains like Gulab Rao who were abusing position like this it would be okay.. But this is too much.

Originally posted by: Moor278

Personally... my opinion is this...

There is no excuse for the crimes V committed. V at this moment does not deserve anyone. Not even P.

And even though she is a vamp and has been waiting for him and she brought this upon herself and deserves all this etc... I don't think any woman should be treated the way she is...

So if anyone is saying I feel bad for Sai as a woman... they 'should' feel bad for P as well... if being woman is the only criteria.

I am fine if anyone says P deserves this treatment because she is an antagonist. Totally justifiable argument.

Only saying being a woman is not 👎🏼

Because then the argument that V abuses woman falls flat.

That apart... V needs to redeem, repent, regret, cry, beg, grovel... do all this to Sai and his kids before he can have a future with them.

The problem lies in the overall Outlook of looking at V... sorry to say but many have not been able to disassociate themselves from the NB/V link. I myself do waver in that zone once in a while. Not going to lie.

But at the end of day they are only portraying a role...

Sai is not Ayesha... V is not NB.

Also... not that Ghum writers and creatives have shown much interest in doing this... but post leap there are feelers.

Jagtap being a major one... if he, a legit murderer can reform and change...

P in her mother avatar (only) can change ... why can't V????

He is a ML after all... until and unless there is a confirmation on new ML.

If everyone gets a chance to change and reform, why shouldn't V get it?

But the bigger question is... if he gets it... if he changes and if he reforms to a better version will this same section of audience accept him or keep looking at him from the blackened lenses??????

Knowing Ghums past history there is less scope... but if it happens... will there be acceptability. ❓

And until then, can this daily argument about how he wrong he is can stop???? Its getting tiresome.

Everyone is waiting for a sign that things are gonna change. The hope never dies.

P.S. nothing personal. Felt like ranting 😔

One more thing virat's treatment to pakhi and sai can't be compared.

Virat always stood by pakhi, hide her mistakes, saved her many times, never let anyone disrespect her, gave her wife respect publicly while with sai we all know what he did and doing now.

I am sure if virat put false charges on pakhi or pushes her many will definitely voice out it.

What virat gave to sai was mental and physical abuse which he never gave to pakhi. So why would pakhi get sympathy for it? When virat was always praising her to the sky and protecting her.

Jagtap is reformed still most of the people don't want him with sai romantically (including myself).

He can be her protector but can't have relationship romantically.

And jagtap and pakhi doing crimes when their sole intention is to possess sai , hurt sai is different from virat doing crimes and abuse while claiming to love sai.

I hope u get the difference.

@bold how can it stop when he is doing wrong in each episode. It's not like we are talking about his past mistakes. His crimes just getting bigger and bigger. How can we ignore it just because he is ml and thinking one day he will get redemption (which has 5% chance going by ghum history).

@italic that is if condition. How can it stop one from reacting to his current actions.

It's not about ml, fl. Sai virat are just characters for me.

As of now, the character virat is crossing the limits of sanity.

Why it is a problem when one talk about virat abuse which he is doing it now.

I understand ur sentiments. Nothing wrong in hoping for his redemption. But we can't just give excuses to his crimes by keeping in mind of his imaginary redemption and his ml status.

He has extreme feelings for sai that's why manhandled her, put her in jail, he is thinking as father, he is hurt, angry. All these are excuses for me.

If we think, every criminal and abusers has excuses just like virat has.

Makers themselves don't mind to give excuses for his actions, but we are giving him making makers whitewash job very easy.

How will they know he needs to redeemed when people do their work of understanding his reasons behind his crimes which they don't show in episodes itself.

I am sorry again if it offends. My intention is not to hurt anyone choice. All I expect is no excuses for virat's crimes just like we don't give excuses for pakhi's crimes.

Originally posted by: Rosyme

The writers are sick.

When P was arrested, BK forced V to get her bail saying Ghar ki ijjath.

When Sai s arrested there s no Ghar ki ijjath for her, when Virat s openly declaring n front of police that the child belongs to him and Sai.

And after all this noise, no neighbours came and saw what happened.

See it is not even a surprise that writing is extremely biased and selective. Its been like that for months now, since Shruti track. No character or plot consistency, everyone acts and reacts as per how they want to bend story.

Overall if you see it is only done to eliminate every single person countering PL n Virat. No one will utter a word to highlight their wrongdoings. Just because makers want to justify them as ‘positive’ leads acting as human with flaws. Nowhere their acts are mentioned whereas everything Sai did even if it is a reaction to Virat or PL’s action it is shown as some big crime.

I do not think it is to garner sympathy for FL because no one likes constantly wronged FL who cant step up for her self and forgets what wrong others did to her.
FL is butchered the most after ML. Honestly if Sai wont bring up Surrogacy fraud she will loose respect n sympathy in my eyes. This is about her and HER KIDS NOW!

To keep the Sairat notion alive they will have to justify Virat and bring Sai to his level. Eventhough what Sai did is only reaction to Virat action she is put on equal blame. Ignore what Virat did n magnify what Sai did that will bring them in same level. There is no other way for makers to sell Sairat otherwise. And thats what they r doing.

Its known secrete that all these is done because someone is obsessed with playing a positive character and can not take anyone going against her onscreen character either especially the ML. That obsession is out in open. They showed in SJ too. Basically to save ML’s personal life equation they have made a mess onscreen.

Apar5 from the manhandling and verbal abuse...

The proper crimes are agreeing for surrogacy knowing P is medically and legally unfit to become a surrogate. If he had been absent at that moment, he could have been excused... but he was present and did not stop the procedure in Sais absence and knowing she was against P as a choice. That's taking away a mother's right.

The current one being arresting her on unfair grounds... just because he wanted to keep Sai away.

I am not counting the baby snatching pre leap as of now because while he did not guess P's intentions (which is quite clear post leap too) I don't think he wanted to keep the baby to P all the while. Still it was wrong too but not as wrong.

As for Sai... I am fine if she did not tell Saavi because she was hoping V would come. But after knowing VP are married and giving up her rights.. Sai should have told something to Saavi. Even if we say she wasn't wrong till then... she was post this. There was no reason to keep Saavi away from truth when Sai had accepted that there is no going back to V.

Rest I agree... V at this point is behaving as a father... and not just Saavi ka father... he is partly lamenting the loss of previous 2 kids... there is no way he is going to let this child go away from him now.

Like Sai ... he will move heaven and earth to make it possible 👍🏼

Yar people forget this is fiction .. in real life sai would have left virat long ago . Plus in real life .. men are not blind .. a pretty girl like Sai would have many suitors ..

To make the story dramatic .. they make the situations extreme .. in real life even if you may be a DCP you cannot randomly arrest anybody.. there is media like times now , republic everywhere ..

An FiR has to be filed plus she would have to be presented in court .. where a lot of history will be dug .. why did virat capture Sai’s child . What relationship does he have .. he cannot keep someone in jail infinitely she will have to be presented in court .. abd the moment she opened her mouth virat would be stripped of his uniform for misusing his position n authorities

Sai had called a press conference 5-10 years ago .. for the last 10 years everything is captured online .. so the moment savi n Sai got a bravery award the search would have popped up regarding her relationship with virat . The analytics are so smart ..

so let us take everything with a pinch of salt and watch it for drama and fireworks .. another thing is in real life men seldom leave their younger nubile wives to marry older woman..😂😂😂..Virat getting hooked up with pakhi is also quite improbable..

Positive and taller character .

In the scene with BK and Ash etc n the hall after seeing V and Savi, there s a shot from back. It looks as if she's standing on a ladder .

She s obsessed with being the same height and Sai and V.

P will never be called out . Sai will thank her for getting vinu home once truth s known.

And may not tell Vinu also.

But Vinu may want to go with his mom and sis.

So there's a shot where she takes the kids and walks away n Kankavli.

Nicely put .

See even now after V knows he can't tell Savi that she s his father else Vinu will be upset. And saavi will feel bad that her father has another family.

This s the same reason Sai didn't tel saavi about her father.

She was completely right n that .

She could have told her father s some war and can't call from there etc.

Originally posted by: Roch

Good one Moor, if we say V is wrong then so is Sai and So is Pakhi. The levels are different but Galati toh Sab ne ki hain some way or the other.

The main thing is because of their mistakes the kids are suffering. And they need to realise this both Sai Virat.

Yes Sai has suffered but isn’t she wrong Atleast with Savi. But somewhere she knows uske pass Woh introspection hain. But Virat needs to learn to introspect.

But the writers have potential to focus on one or 2 characters Baaki sab hawa hojata hain. So it’s how they move this track all depends on that.

They have brought the link back between Sai and Virat which was missing.

Agree to your point Moor, the disconnect between V and NB is so needed. But then we all know the reason and at times it will have an impact.

I agree these days with aadhar card .. email ids how can you disappear .. the moment some one is declared dead .. aadhar card is revoked .. how did Sai practice as a doctor , rent a house have a mobile .. without using her aadhar card .. how did she give birth to Savi in hospital