Ghum Hai Kisikey Pyaar Meiin Spoilers Thread #13 - Page 9

Exactly it was a bad bad idea .. and should be best omitted from the story ..

they can bring some other woman .. zimmedari when Sai is pregnant .. if they really have to go back to KD ..

Regarding the other shruti in KD .. she was not pretty .. but she was incredibly tall .. and was Rono’s height .. and Rono never looked attracted to her or even drawn to her .. he always treated her as a subject who he has to support .. never Molly coddled her to eat or drink .,

during the later part of shruti 2 .. yes she was even more irritating.. but it still did not look Rono was attracted to her ., I clearly got the vibe from Rishi Kaushik that Rono is doing this .. to become mahan .. he wants to play saviour to shruti ..

This Neil bhatt has to watch KD .. and somehow imbibe from Rishi Kaushik to make the track a success ..

Originally posted by: mysticriver

I didn't feel that way about the scene. He ended up crying upon hearing Sai's name right from the moment from that doctor's mouth plus when Sai was walking ahead ignoring him, he stopped her by holding her hands but when Sai removed his hand he was crying again but was happy & smiling when Sai took him alongwith her, he was following her whenever she was taking, was crying again when Sai was treating him as a stranger, I got that scene but it was to show Sai is misunderstanding seeing him cry like that he was breaking down infront of her for Shruti, whereas Virat wanted to convey something else. Even the dialogues he spoke none of it had anything related to Shruti. They didn't imply that scene for Virat's breakdown for Shruti. His dialogues were aimed at Sai. There was a similar scene in KD too not Ronno's breakdown as such but Imon misunderstood his behaviour & had same type of dialogues like Sai wish I knew and you had told me about your love for Shruti earlier etc. He couldn't take her indifference towards him anymore. It was like his need to have Sai with him besides there stand by him. If i remember correctly in that episode when broker talks about his wife or something he immediately had flashback of Sai leaving CN.

I haven't seen the operation track episodes (was he praying infront of God? Haven't seen so that might be OTT I agree) or when she pushes injection to Shruti that episode either so can't say about that. But the felicitation one I remember he prayed for Sai as he couldn't be present there aisa kuch followed by praying for Shruti to give her himmat/hasusla/Shakti/sahara (idk remember the exact word he used so wrote these but any of these) to fight battle out for her delivery. I didn't feel that way about that scene either. It seemed normal to me back then too. Haven't seen it a long time so I can't recall his facial expressions in that scene. But I don't remember anything too bad about it. Others can throw lights on both scenes.

I haven't seen all the episodes or scenes from Shruti track but the one scene that really made me infuriate was in the scene in her ward when he was consoling her before her delivery & labour pain began in hospital. That one seemed totally unnecessary. Also the physical contact, touch & hand holding in that scene felt intimate - inappropriate which I didn't like at all irrespective of his intentions. I didn't feel good about it. Also, another thing was him looking at or pointing at her baby bump everytime there was referrence or mention or talks of Sahaas. It used to make me feel awkward & creepy.

Agree with everything you wrote here!! I concluded the same!
infact the scene where he holds Sai’s (in the blue dress❤️) hand and stops her is my favorite scene! Virat was totally trying to find the Sai he can lean on as his whole family infact Aai slapped him that day. He wasn’t thinking of Shruthi at all. He just had so much hope that no one else in the world but Sai will understand him without any words. That was also what he said when he first met Sada (the night of their tea date). I also thought that during the scene and after the operation too when Virat is concerned was meant to say that he wants Shruthi to get well soon so he can tell Sai the truth. Unfortunately right after that divorce track happened and that completely broke him. I think till then he was holding on that once it’s over and Shruthi is out of danger he would talk to Sai and bring her back. Divorce signing irrespective of the reason was end of it!

ofcourse there is always two sides of the coin-other side was Sai’s pain… all justified from her perspective too!

I didn’t like those handholding Shruthi falling for Virat and that shirt change in front of her…. All that was just useless it had no relevance to the story. Shruthi could have chose to not go with Sada just for her son’s safety… not because she was falling for Virat. They could have kept the relation respectful.

Virat’s beef with Sai was/is only that divorce signing!

Originally posted by: msin

Shruti track was very badly written and badly acted by all the actors in ghum ..

most definitely grumpy shruti who throughout looked like virat’s aunty ..

there was no logical reason for anyone to believe that virat would fall for her leaving aside Sai and pakhi at home ..

It definitely looked like he had a one night stand and was trapped ..through pregnancy..

wish they had written the track better and got a more appropriate actress ..

If they had to bring in KD elements . They should have followed KD timeline .
If they had to bring in another woman before confession then they should have got a younger actress.. who needed the ACP’s protection something like Jurm .Thoda sa toh change karna tha ..

In a way I am very very happy they shortchanged ghum and started other serials but all are failing and might shut shop . So they have no option but just focus of this ..

We can see the difference when they started getting Sachin Shroff as an important cameo .. otherwise they were getting bad actors who were just doing Vella panti ..

Mohit ( bad choice , shruti ( terrible ) )

regarding NB acting .. I felt he himself was not convinced that virat could fall for shruti .. ( it was so outlandish) and he failed to portray it ..

Virat and Rono are different personalities… Rono was believable.. he was not friendly with all ..

I hope for story’s sake they don’t bring in shruti again .. give her a bye bye .. if they have to bring in another woman . Thry can copy from some other story and get someone who looks younger .. ( don’t care if shafaq is younger than NB .. for star plus audience she is Shaheer sheikh’s mother .. so she is Aunty definitely) 😂😂

You are hilarious yaar 😭😭😭

Yes Shruti track in Ghum has been executed horribly.

Waise who do you dislike more KD wali Shruti ya Ghum? I still dislike the former more also the actress was the only odd bad actor out there out of whole cast. She made it more terrible.

The ph needs to be shut down...

It was unbelievable in KD too why would any husband would go for Shruti when he has Imon 🤣

Why Neil had to be convinced that Virat could fall for Shruti anyway? Why did he have to portray it? Did they show Virat falling for Shruti here or what.

Beautifully explained...

This is also the reason why he is still hung up on the divorce. He knows it's fake, it doesn't matter if she did it to save his job.

His hurt is her 'intention'... That she gave up easily. Didn't fight for him like she does for others. He failed to see what drove her to that. Which I believe will happen post confession if Vanku is right.

And more importantly how can she misjudge him after having seen everything.

Another point is Sai made it clear to Sammy that V did not have any inappropriate relationship with Pakhi. He heard it from the door. And if, given their history he doesn't indulge in something like this even when he doesn't love Sai (as per her belief at that point of time), how can she suspect him of doing the same with Shruti.

That is not only misjudging his character but also his ethics in preserving the sanctity of marriage.

Now the only reason he is melting is because time and again Sai has been reminding him that she is sorry for mistrusting him, removing his doubt. And partially Sai being apologetic about it is logical because she now knows that it was all for a vaada. And for a person who herself is tied to the other because of a vaada and how steadfastly he has upheld that, Sai can never doubt V of having an EMA with Shruti or his intentions. She has to believe him and she indeed does.

Originally posted by: msin

Exactly it was a bad bad idea .. and should be best omitted from the story ..

they can bring some other woman .. zimmedari when Sai is pregnant .. if they really have to go back to KD ..

Regarding the other shruti in KD .. she was not pretty .. but she was incredibly tall .. and was Rono’s height .. and Rono never looked attracted to her or even drawn to her .. he always treated her as a subject who he has to support .. never Molly coddled her to eat or drink .,

during the later part of shruti 2 .. yes she was even more irritating.. but it still did not look Rono was attracted to her ., I clearly got the vibe from Rishi Kaushik that Rono is doing this .. to become mahan .. he wants to play saviour to shruti ..

This Neil bhatt has to watch KD .. and somehow imbibe from Rishi Kaushik to make the track a success ..

I'm not a rishi kaushik fan but I agree with what you say often.. Experience matters.. Rishi is older than Neil so he understands his character arcs well..

Agree Neil should watch Rishi kaushik before they head to next shruti track.. Ayesha watches Anupama to nuance ..I suggest her to watch khubsurat because her character is similar to that.

Ayesha faltered in bhandara.. Neil did better because you have to perform as if there were actual fire....Over here too his experience worked

BTW I hate both shruti like effing death 🤢😐

When Emon was longing for her husband at that state was painful to watch 😭

One thing I absolutely hate about Virat’s character is that he discloses his and Sai’s issues infront of Shruthi and Pakhi! A man of few words all of a sudden starts blabbering.

Infact of they show that infront of Sunny I would take it.

But I take all that blabbering and Sai’s burai as part of giving the other characters some unnecessary SS and drama.

to me those scenes don’t make any difference in my thoughts of what Virat and Sai’s feelings are for each other.

Oh yes even I am not a Rishi Kaushik fan . Infact I really adore Kaushik Roy ( shramanjit ( especially after Khorkuto) .. he is so good .,

see the problem with ghum is that it’s a story written by a Bengali writer .. the character of virat ( Rono ) is of a Bhadrolok .. a character very much seen in older Bengali films .. .. someone who is expected to have platonic relationships with women friends .. it used to happen in Kolkata .. and was believable.. Rishi Kaushik has seen it so could imbibe it .. I am not sure it would fit into marathi manoos virat 😂

See it was believable that RK and Rono could be friends .. Kolkata society is very very cosmopolitan.. and we do see it quite often .. but somehow pakhi and virat could never give the vibe of wanting a platonic relationship

Haven’t we seen it in so many Tagore movies .. nashteneer .. where a married woman has a close male pal with whom she has a platonic relationship..

Originally posted by: Coolmeg

Agree with everything you wrote here!! I concluded the same!
infact the scene where he holds Sai’s (in the blue dress❤️) hand and stops her is my favorite scene! Virat was totally trying to find the Sai he can lean on as his whole family infact Aai slapped him that day. He wasn’t thinking of Shruthi at all. He just had so much hope that no one else in the world but Sai will understand him without any words. That was also what he said when he first met Sada (the night of their tea date). I also thought that during the scene and after the operation too when Virat is concerned was meant to say that he wants Shruthi to get well soon so he can tell Sai the truth. Unfortunately right after that divorce track happened and that completely broke him. I think till then he was holding on that once it’s over and Shruthi is out of danger he would talk to Sai and bring her back. Divorce signing irrespective of the reason was end of it!

ofcourse there is always two sides of the coin-other side was Sai’s pain… all justified from her perspective too!

I didn’t like those handholding Shruthi falling for Virat and that shirt change in front of her…. All that was just useless it had no relevance to the story. Shruthi could have chose to not go with Sada just for her son’s safety… not because she was falling for Virat. They could have kept the relation respectful.

Virat’s beef with Sai was/is only that divorce signing!

Yeah that scene was like he was telling her things & wanted her to understand what he's trying to convey without verbalising it...

After operation divorce didn't come up. It was after the injection pushing I think but didn't he decide himself he'll stop pursuing her further & after operation in CN when BK tells him to bring Sai back he told her Sai won't ever back right?

(From the previous thread discussion)

BK probably is a different person today than what she was years ago. She may have been status conscious n stuff. But some traits may have developed over the years due to circumstances. In one of the old episodes Ninad does mentions what BK has done for him.

So it seems like the family was close knit and Ninad and Omi were followed Nagesh. Post his death the entire responsibility came on BK and she took on the reins. Ninad and Omi were indebted for her for the same. Also the fact that Ninad personal life wasn't happy and Omi was financial dependent. BK with her mindset had certain principles which were regressive, but as someone who has to told the family together and instil her values that she considered right in the members of the family. Hence she imposed the same on her family. Maybe she didnt seek the power but situation placed her in that place. And in her endeavour to keeping her family afloat he enforced that power and control. Maybe thats the way she knew or understood. But over a period she became a control freak and power became an obsession an addiction. After having stayed in that position of absolute power she suffered from insecurity, fear of losing that power when Sai arrived. She was the first to openly question, oppose her authority and she saw her as the threat. This was observed by Sonali and P. And they leveraged it to their benefit. It is not that she is incapable of seeing the good, but her obsession with power is far more and she refuses to see or acknowledge anything good that threatens her position. P's chai nashta would have made no effect on her. Karishma had been doing all that before her. BK was critical of P in the beginning despite her being BK's choice. Sai made her fall into P's trap. Karishma was also not BK's choice, if that was the only issue, she would have taken sides with P early on before Sai arrived. So it was actually not P being from a particular reputed lineage. It was about BK, her choice, to prove her decisions being right and her beliefs right. While she saw the good in Sai, she felt threatened by her character. While she never wishes ill for her family, her mentality and though process does not allow her to see where she is wrong. She is not clever that ways. She only holds a position of power but the brain is always of the person who holds her mind in captive. P and Sonali only provoked her using that fear of hers. And that is all that BK thinks about now. Its her insecurity that has blinded her and she refuses to see the evil in P. Because P being proved wrong means BK being proved wrong, her choice and decisions incorrect. And that is something that is not acceptable to her. Hence she will always cheer for P and protect her while ignoring any of her flaws and never acknowledging her decision being a mistake.

Originally posted by: msin

Oh yes even I am not a Rishi Kaushik fan . Infact I really adore Kaushik Roy ( shramanjit ( especially after Khorkuto) .. he is so good .,

see the problem with ghum is that it’s a story written by a Bengali writer .. the character of virat ( Rono ) is of a Bhadrolok .. a character very much seen in older Bengali films .. .. someone who is expected to have platonic relationships with women friends .. it used to happen in Kolkata .. and was believable.. Rishi Kaushik has seen it so could imbibe it .. I am not sure it would fit into marathi manoos virat 😂

See it was believable that RK and Rono could be friends .. Kolkata society is very very cosmopolitan.. and we do see it quite often .. but somehow pakhi and virat could never give the vibe of wanting a platonic relationship

Virat is more geeky.. When Sunny tells Porky likes her he looked overjoyed that any girl can even see him that way.. So it was kind of when porky starts flirting then he immediately decided to marry her.. Chalo koi mila ab shadi nipta lete hai..

Rono is a bangali gentle man.. A very old school type..So it was more believable..

So rewriting for marathi culture writers needed to do many homeworks because virat is supposed to be very complex and quite intense..