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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: quickspicysauce

I think Anjol are trending on Twitter, I saw a hashtag saying Anjol on my feed. Happy these people got the recognition that the writing didn’t do for them

New episode, finally Kajol tells the stalker to stop stalking. Literally called her out for her obsession and tells her it’s not love hahahaha it’s a line we have all been saying

Putting in good scenes when they’re about to end the show 🥲


@arivarshi so overall I have mixed thoughts about BI. I don’t know whether to root for a relationship with so much sexism (even with superb redemption) and yet, it’s also a show that did not firstly start off or claim that the ML was ever respectful and secondly, the writing calls him out for it, the FL also does call him out. But I really like how it was all very honest- the characters and writing are honest and not trying to be what they aren’t. I think Anjol/writing here directly lacked the same, they keep whitewashing our leads here as strong, and progressive and mature, even when they were actually doing some very questionable things. They could’ve either been honest about their characters’ flaws or just been consistent about how great they are. Nevertheless, I think I enjoyed Anjol because I kept hoping whatever their characters were promised to be would show soon, and last three weeks that’s happened, albeit too late


"Shubho AnJol Wedding" the tagline trended 🤣🤣🤣🤣

It's the fans this was their outreach, I also joined in between. For a few tweets. To support the cast, specially Ishita.

I agree with you the leads characters were butchered and so was Chandana but now everyone is supposed to forget the past and move on and accept that there was no inconsistency. But last few episodes have been good although rushed. My hopes of a stalker free wedding is lost completely because of the recent BTS shared by the cast where it seems that the Stalker sets Kajol up. And the Enabler Mommy can also be seen. But the wedding is happening and we are not left with just a simple happy ending with the marriage happening in the realm of possibility post the end.

And about the scene, where Kajol stands up against the Psycho Stalker, I think even though Anurag has now finally mentioned blackmail, I think Kajol still isn't shown to have clearly understood his meaning. But I am still enjoying the episodes because we are finally getting a resolution. I really liked her approach and I still get that she tries to see the best in people and is forgiving to an extent. And when she says that you will be treated as a friend only if you behave normally and also gives her the nasihat/advice to move on was on point. It showed a really realistic and empathetic person. Anurag too, his approach towards Priyanka with him going on the offensive was perfectly reminiscent of the no nonsense Anurag of the beginning. If only the Haridwar track had not happened, I would have loved the recent episodes more.

Anurag and Kajol were two well written character sketches who were then ruined at the altar of Colors whims and fancies dependent on the need for high TRPs. Sadly if they had stuck to the original story and plot, they would have been able to garner more TRP through the saner chunk of audiences because YRKKH right now is just a caricature show being carried by the star power of Harshad Chopda. And it's memes are proof of that.


@Quickspicysauce

About BI yes I too have a problem with Zain's actions. I have had alternative endings in mind where Aaliya actually moved on and Zain had to live with the consequences of his actions.

But the reason I loved the show was because he was shown to be those things, he was not made into a hero who could do no wrong like Virat or Fateh and to some extent Anurag too. Zain was human and selfish. He divorces Aaliya and treats her so cruelly and then as soon as he finds the truth he wants a second chance and expects her to forgive him. It reeked of male privilege.

Aaliya too forgives him as her love does border on obsessive, because for Zain she even distrusts and mistreats Rehaan (who was butchered to make Zain look more worthy of Aaliya than him and also due to fan demand) who stood by her throughout her ordeal. Aaliya's desire to be with Zain is the thing that makes her human with human foibles.

They changed, I think a lot of the plot because of TRP loss due to the Talaak track and rushed through the whole halala track too.

I believe and this is my perspective solely that that whole year and the redemption and Halala actually taught Zain of his own sexist nature and that all actions have consequences and in light of his lesson in humility, his respect and trust for Aaliya did increase. He acknowledged that what he had done was because he was an entitled ass.

And In the dialogues he also did acknowledge that Aaliya loved him more than he loved her. He understood his failings and Aaliya was shown to accept him as that flawed man whom she loved. Because she realised that whoever or whatever he was, he still was the one she wanted and was the source of her happiness. And the second chance to him was as much for her as for him. Because she could hold on to her anger and be unhappy all her life or be happy by forgiving him. She chose her own happiness as much as his.

In real life that kind of forgiveness in my eyes would be abhorrent because they would have to face a proper Halala but many women do forgive.

I cannot just romanticize them and ignore the shortcomings. But I still find the show beautifully written and trying to deal with the problems and reality of that situation.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Savee12

@quickspicysauce..Yeah must say great job by the anjol fans that they are trending on twitter..The writers and creative team must know how they ruined such a show which had potential tracks..They focused more on negativity/villains than anjol journey.

It's too late to complain still wished, they have picturised such good episodes much earlier..

Liked the cute convo of anjol in car but mostly how both tackled psycho Priyanka..

Finally yes finally kajol got to know about the blackmailing and something we wished from a longtime to see her not sacrificing but fighting for her love..

She did it and showed crazy Priyanka the mirror..Something which we have been telling from beginning about pyscho its not love but obsession..Kajol told her today Anurag is not your love but an obsession..It was good to see kajol being the shield of Anurag ..

Precap..Beautiful moment of anjol with their pre wedding ritual..Naina will never change as she called Priyanka..I feel she will act good for now but will play her dirty game again later..

Anyways whatever drama naina or Priyanka will come up, anjol will get married in the end..

Waiting to watch the upcoming episodes with some more beautiful moments if anjol..

@Savee; great epi..they just keep getting better as show comes to an end..I liked the interaction between Bulti and Chaterjees and good Aayn always stands up for right action ...nowadays not much lusting going on with Shreya/ Arjun...Shrey seems more interested in besting Nania out if household



What nonsense is Nania going to cook up with new BFF stalker & her mother..all I know is they will be there till last day; I dont care as long as Anjol shaadi goes ahead . Where is Kajol going to get money from I wonder?


Lovely to see Sharmilla & Abishek happy for Anurag...


Good mix of romance & light comedy with Anjol & yes so now Kajol.has a slight understsnding of why Anurag left her to support Stalker but nit yet the full extent

.that will.hopefully come out & it was good of Anurag to speak it out..finally we are getting shades of old Anurag in action...now he has Kajol he wont ever let her go but neither will he be a lovesick puppy


At long last Kajol.is beginning yo understand the length of stalkers obsession & good she has declared she will not give up Anurag & neither will.she let Anurag face stalker alone - but enough of friendship talk...Kajol is making dangerous mistake in thinking that stalker can ever be a friend.


I liked the way Kajol claimed her right on Anurag & the look on his face when Kakol held his hand & challenged stalker - really this nice romantic moments make up for the endless crap we were served for past 40+ episodes


Let's see what tomorrow brings..nor sure if show ends Friday 25th.


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Posted: 4 years ago

@Wynn...Nice take on the epi and I so agree with you pyscho will stay till anjol wedding..

I saw a bts and heard chondona rehearsing her dialogues telling the police my daughter has never hurt anyone so how will she attempt to kill someone..My guess pyscho will file the complaint against kajol and full dose of drama during anjol wedding..

I think Priyanka will play nice for now but will come with her dirty plan on wedding day..

That's too I'm thinking where kajol will get one crore for naina..

Let's see what next but really enjoying these last episodes..

Yeah same thought here if the show will air last epi on Friday..

Hopefull they end it beautifully without any rush...

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Posted: 4 years ago

Good point in the last episodes getting some beautiful moments of anjol.

Bad point have to bear shameless chatterjee's , scheming and plotting just to not let kajol wedding to happen..

Reason for chatterjee's, kajol will be higher in status than them as Anurag's wife.

Naina jealousy for kajol has no bounds and hopefully they don't redeem her character but pay for her sins..

Priyanka though will act good but still her obsession can be back for Anurag..

When all evil plan will fail it will be to get kajol arrested for attempt to murder on her wedding day..

Anyways it was expected as this is ITV no wedding is done without drama..

It seems by Friday we will get Anjol wedding..

Edited by Savee12 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Savee12

Good point in the last episodes getting some beautiful moments of anjol.

Bad point have to bear shameless chatterjee's , scheming and plotting just to not let kajol wedding to happen..

Reason for chatterjee's, kajol will be higher in status than them as Anurag's wife.

Naina jealousy for kajol has no bounds and hopefully they don't redeem her character but pay for her sins..

Priyanka though will act good but still her obsession can be back for Anurag..

When all evil plan will fail it will be to get kajol arrested for attempt to murder on her wedding day..

Anyways it was expected as this is ITV no wedding is done without drama..

It seems by Friday we will get Anjol wedding..

@Savee...the Chaterjees are just soo low class in their thinking with exception of Aayan and Bulti...Arjun has not got over Kajol or her famous slap it seems...& family will go to any extent to get Bulti back...she is a grown woman they can hardly kidnap her but it seems they are going to try


Imagine if someone tried to break Nania's wedding out of spite..I want Shreya to succeed now


Low key arrangements at Kajol's home for engagement and somehow more suited ..the asking for kiss scene I found very juvenile..they are not 15 years old teenagers...he is a famous cardiothoracic surgeon and Kajol is a grown adult woman- I would have preferred a bolder scene


Ok where did Kajol get money for Nania?

Stalkers entry? What is she up to?



I have my doubts whether show will end on Friday 25th Feb..it seems too rushed ..on uk tv its still showing as airing on 7th Mar...so perhaps there are one or two more weeks to go...I have not seen any adverts for a new show to air on colours just yet so lets see.

I doubt it will go beyond March.



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Posted: 4 years ago

more daring scenes are always very rare

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Wynn

@Savee; great epi..they just keep getting better as show comes to an end..I liked the interaction between Bulti and Chaterjees and good Aayn always stands up for right action ...nowadays not much lusting going on with Shreya/ Arjun...Shrey seems more interested in besting Nania out if household



What nonsense is Nania going to cook up with new BFF stalker & her mother..all I know is they will be there till last day; I dont care as long as Anjol shaadi goes ahead . Where is Kajol going to get money from I wonder?


Lovely to see Sharmilla & Abishek happy for Anurag...


Good mix of romance & light comedy with Anjol & yes so now Kajol.has a slight understsnding of why Anurag left her to support Stalker but nit yet the full extent

.that will.hopefully come out & it was good of Anurag to speak it out..finally we are getting shades of old Anurag in action...now he has Kajol he wont ever let her go but neither will he be a lovesick puppy


At long last Kajol.is beginning yo understand the length of stalkers obsession & good she has declared she will not give up Anurag & neither will.she let Anurag face stalker alone - but enough of friendship talk...Kajol is making dangerous mistake in thinking that stalker can ever be a friend.


I liked the way Kajol claimed her right on Anurag & the look on his face when Kakol held his hand & challenged stalker - really this nice romantic moments make up for the endless crap we were served for past 40+ episodes


Let's see what tomorrow brings..nor sure if show ends Friday 25th.


Fantastic post @Wynn

I was glad to see Kajol push stalker off- we have all been irritated for ages on the way this stalker keeps touching Anurag without his consent like a leech. I’m glad they both stood up for each other and the relationship, and so happy to see the last of lovesick mode Anurag, good to see the earlier no nonsense person again

Like you said I’m also liking the romance mixed with light humor type of scenes these days. One where they’re set up for the long drive, and the one where he tries to run out because she was getting dressed etc

Even I found the kiss part super juvenile, was rolling my eyes, but in all fairness, they are sort of supposed to be this inexperienced and shy duo, but still a bit weird when you realise they’re grown ups


I guess Naina and stalker will work together, some point Naina will first hand be forced to accept Arjun and Shreya’s truth and the lack of love in her marriage and then turn tables on the last day to help Kajol and send stalker and her enabler packing. In the latest voot epi stalker comes for the ceremony and says sorry and I’m happy for you guys and things, but it’s clearly an act


@arivarshi yeah I think if I had watched BI when it was airing (was quite young then) I’d have probably liked it but same thought as IPKKND- well executed shows but shit that sort of obsessive romance is a bit of a nightmare now. But cannot deny how well executed the show was/at least this divorce and getting back track. Also why I had liked Anjol (up until Haridwar- even though they were dumb, I never felt like there was a lack of breathing space between them, and they had a life outside each other with lots of priorities) and MaAn (need we say more haha)


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Posted: 4 years ago

@Wynn..Nice take on epi and you are so right the chatterjee's are so low class but keep themselves on a pedestal..

Now they have an addition in the family naina who has a cheap mindset like them...

About anjol I have always liked their subtle romance with that awarkdness and shyness..If there is an after wedding scenario ,might be we can get a more beautifully captivating romantic moment..

Today we have Priyanka with a 360 turn in her personality ..She has been so fake since beginning so its hard to accept her change in behaviour..kajol easily forgave her but Anurag by the look of it still don't trust her..

Wishful wish hopefully this marks her exit but since creatives loves her character so a chance she will be back..

This is such a cheap act faking a heart attack and kind of kidnapped their own daughter.. Bulti was definitely right about her decision to leave this mad house of the chatterjee.

So many roadblocks coming up to stop anjol wedding but this time both are ready to fight against destiny too to be together..

Greedy dumb naina will never learn from her mistakes..She will surely create hurdles for kajol to not marry Anurag..let's see what's next after Bulti kidnap plan backfire ..

Agree with you Wynn only one pre wedding ritual is over and there are others so yeah might be we have another 1 week of episodes on air..

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Savee12

@Wynn..Nice take on epi and you are so right the chatterjee's are so low class but keep themselves on a pedestal..

Now they have an addition in the family naina who has a cheap mindset like them...

About anjol I have always liked their subtle romance with that awarkdness and shyness..If there is an after wedding scenario ,might be we can get a more beautifully captivating romantic moment..

Today we have Priyanka with a 360 turn in her personality ..She has been so fake since beginning so its hard to accept her change in behaviour..kajol easily forgave her but Anurag by the look of it still don't trust her..

Wishful wish hopefully this marks her exit but since creatives loves her character so a chance she will be back..

This is such a cheap act faking a heart attack and kind of kidnapped their own daughter.. Bulti was definitely right about her decision to leave this mad house of the chatterjee.

So many roadblocks coming up to stop anjol wedding but this time both are ready to fight against destiny too to be together..

Greedy dumb naina will never learn from her mistakes..She will surely create hurdles for kajol to not marry Anurag..let's see what's next after Bulti kidnap plan backfire ..

Agree with you Wynn only one pre wedding ritual is over and there are others so yeah might be we have another 1 week of episodes on air..

@Saveee


Where do I start?

Bulti..how will she get herself out of this mess? Where is Aayan? Kajol & Anurag will figure something out ...Chaterjees have no shame


NANIA- always bitter and vindictive...I cant wait for Shreya to teach her a lesson


Kajol..its good to have a good heart but not so good to be mahaan & naive. Kajol will rue the day she put stalkers & Anurag's hands together. Who invites themselves to an engagement with press in tow? Kajol - will you never learn? No, then going by reports you all give; stalker will be there on wedding day to break shaadi...of course we know Anjol will marry but it will be close call as I said right from the beginning, perhaps that will wake Kajol up


At least Anurag & Sharmilla is not buying this fake act.


Yes I think one or two more weeks for sure. They cant wrap up by 25th. It will go till either 4th Mar or 11th Mar . I will be surprised if it goes beyond that


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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Wynn

@Saveee


Where do I start?

Bulti..how will she get herself out of this mess? Where is Aayan? Kajol & Anurag will figure something out ...Chaterjees have no shame


NANIA- always bitter and vindictive...I cant wait for Shreya to teach her a lesson


Kajol..its good to have a good heart but not so good to be mahaan & naive. Kajol will rue the day she put stalkers & Anurag's hands together. Who invites themselves to an engagement with press in tow? Kajol - will you never learn? No, then going by reports you all give; stalker will be there on wedding day to break shaadi...of course we know Anjol will marry but it will be close call as I said right from the beginning, perhaps that will wake Kajol up


At least Anurag & Sharmilla is not buying this fake act.


Yes I think one or two more weeks for sure. They cant wrap up by 25th. It will go till either 4th Mar or 11th Mar . I will be surprised if it goes beyond that


The show is ending on 4th. Last 1-2 weeks had been enjoyable but the latest episode on Voot, i.e. tonight's episode shows a return to form of the whole Creative team with too much negativity. The problem with this show from the beginning has been that we were never given a chance to enjoy the togetherness of the leads. Too much negativity and too little positivity made sure that the negativity overpowered positive aspects. There was never really any truly happy moment, and the audience was the one first made aware of the next tragedy or problem to hit the show's story.

The useless Creative Team has done it again. We the audience were finally enjoying the story and boom the next really despicable plot twist will hit us today. This was the point of disconnect that even the most ardent fans have felt unless you are a blind AnJolian who cannot take criticism and hound people on any platform dare they criticise the characters or story and specially Anurag.

I don't know today's episode has completely destroyed any goodwill that had built in my mind about the storyline in the end.

You know I never thought I would say this but I should have rather watched Udaariyan or GHKKPM atleast I did not feel any sort of connect with the characters there. So there the unhappiness doesn't effect me. And ridiculous storyline instead of disgusting and disturbing me just makes me laugh at the absurdity.

Here the problem was the main lead characters were relatable and loveable and to see them always unhappy destroyed any kind of interest in the show.

Butchering of characters also added to that. The potential that the character sketches of Kajol and Anurag had was immense but the storyline could not maintain the consistency required to sustain them and build on it. The characters could have had the potential to be synonymous with Anupama and Anuj and I am saying potential only because they have come nowhere near those hallowed and most loved characters of ITV.

This show failed where Anupamaa succeeded, even with all the negativity of Vanraj, Baa and the rest we never lose hope. And one week where we saw that Anuj lost the TRP dipped but the show then made up for that the next week by giving the audiences what they want. But TSBTSP only made us hopeless and disenchanted with the plot.

YRKKH and Anupamaa have finger on the pulse of the audiences and even the most ridiculous plot twists don't budge people from viewing those shows because the feel good aspect doesn't dissapear. But in case of TSBTSP there was never any true feel good factor, a show that introduced itself as a slice of life story of ups and downs in life could not connect us to that slice of life feeling ever. The title song so beautifully written cannot even connect to the show now.

The Creative Team of TSBTSP could not even take up the suggestion and genuine critique put forth by some fans and most viewers and build on it. That is why this show with so much potential and a brilliant cast including some theatre actors could not hold our interest and lost out in the TRP race. And tonight's episode just proves my point.

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