On a different Note ...... Virat's Redemption| DT P.4 - Page 3

Nice post! Both have done some

Mistakes. But both characters are endearing. Just that sometimes we forget to acknowledge Virats pain! It is hard to see man’s pain. At the end of the day, virat is very sensitive with strong mental setup. He has his own abilities to deal with the pain and move on! It requires forgiving and understanding and nourishing his love inspite of the hurt. Post anniversary his hurt was too much. He did turn abusive and angry because he could not express anything more than what he did prior to that! If only he had all these words that he is speaking now at that time, most of the stuff could have been avoided. But that’s the beauty/tragedy of life, it teaches in a hard way.

I like both characters for what they are. If the progression is shown to make them better then I don’t see it being regressive. Regressive is when the actions are supported by the story. Only my opinion. Could be wrong

Nice post . You have put across your points in a very dignified manner without blaming or attacking anyone . There is nothing much to add as you have summarized very aptly .

I just want to say that both characters make mistakes in the show but one character’s every mistake becomes abuse and other characters abuse every-time becomes a small mistake . So I disagree that both the characters are called our equally.

Sorry after a long time, I felt like writing about the vaada. :)

I wanted to talk about the famous vaada. It is completely an emotional one. It shows how muddled his mind gets. But if we try to be Devil's advocate here, Pakhi was his first strong emotion and he thought it is eternal love. He was naive. In that high state of emotions he gave that vaada. It was a grave mistake in a way that the vaada gave a reason for Pakhi to marry Samrat and stay close to Virat. What if he had just said that he could not marry her, never. Then the onus would have completely fallen on Pakhi. Now with the vaada, there is a discussion whether it might have pushed her to make that decision. The previous decision would have not added bad karma to his account, but the latter one incurred so much bad karma which he is facing the consequences of.

He made one more mistake, bigger than vaada which is to say that their marriage cannot be the regular one to Sai. In my opinion, this is a huge mistake, more than vaada. You are marrying this girl according to your will and you set the rules without asking the other person's opinion?. If not for the vaada, they would have become one long back because Sai is a matured girl and she would have just seen Virat as her husband and would have set boundaries for Pakhi. Virat messed it up big time here. But again that is because he was honoring the promise he made to Pakhi couple of days back and he was still stuck there.

After that him falling for Sai is only natural because Sai is exactly the kind of person that would attract Virat. She is morally upright, truthful and genuine all the qualities that Virat stands for. These qualities are the same reason, he fell out of interest from Pakhi. This taught him what is love and what is infatuation. The strong possessiveness he has for Sai shows his insecurities, that he has high chances of losing her. First due to his own words during wedding and subsequently his actions towards her. But what I like about him is that he refrains from declaring his love and claiming her as his wife. Not even in his weakest moments. He still waits for her to accept him, with all the insecurities that she might chose otherwise. How much pressure and stress he might be having? This friendship phase has removed the burden from Sai, but doubled the stress on Virat. He expressed the same to Aai the other day, what if his love will not be seen ever! This fear is real...and he is dealing with it. That calls for huge appreciation for his character and his love for her.

PS: I still think he should apologize both Pakhi and Sai for the respective vaadas. They are not genuine :P

Originally posted by: GhumAddicted

Disclaimer: This is a long post and many may disagree as I don't feel Virat is as bad as we make him out to be. Please forgive me if I end up hurting your feelings/opinions.

Virat and His Famous Vada!!

So I have been going through the old posts in this forum..when I came across a really interesting POV about Virat's Vaada....."The decision to marry Samrat was Patralekha's, even before Virat and she met the second time. So, why would Virat interfere between the betrothed and create a "rift" when he did not seek Pakhi... He was heart broken but since the wedding was on, he did not obviously open his mouth. It would have meant Samrat calling off the wedding, which he didn't want.

His idea of "treasuring Pakhi's love in his heart" was also pure and he refrained from even the slightest touch with her from that moment on... Yes, he was ambiguous because he did not spell out in the exact words the fine print of his vaada and the to-be-bride assumed that she it was an offer to play draupadi to two brothers.

Even on that phone call with PP on her wedding night, he was trying to calm her and tell her how she will find a friend, best friend, lover and husband in Samrat but Samrat could only hear the hysterical "Main tumse pyaar karti hoon Virat".

So yes, the measure of his fault in ruining Samrat's happiness has to be ascertained but I would blame Patralekha for actually cheating Samrat more than Virat because PP did not reveal her actual intention behind marrying Samrat and accepting Virat's mindless vaada to either of the two men. If she had, both would have backed out -- Samrat from the wedding and Virat from the vaada."

So....we can't fault Virat's Vaada......it was done in the spur of the moment when Paakhi refused to go from his room and he was heart broken by the entire turn of events. Also, a lot of people degraded his (puppy) love for Paakhi post marriage...... remember heart is not a computer to just erase memories and feelings. He misunderstood his infatuation for love and felt he would never be able to love another anyways so there is no harm in that Vaada. On top of that if it keeps his brother happy....why not? Remember Virat didn't ask Paakhi to accept Samrat's proposal.....she did that on her own. He just asked her to go through with the commitment.

Lets recount all of Virat's Grave Mistakes

1. Pulkit home visit track:

Here I admit Virat was completely at fault for holding Sai's hand.......and he did realize this....apologized for it .....and never forcefully held her hand again. Also, his holding her hand stemmed mainly from concern for Sai. His refusing to server her food was unwarranted and too much.....but he did realize what he did was completely wrong.

2. Virat throwing Sai post Devi Taayi's marriage:

Although I don't support his decision.....I understand it. He felt betrayed by the person he loves and hurt/worried for his mentally disturbed Sister's future. He must have felt......i married her against my Family's hopes.....my vaada obligations......helped her achieve her dreams.....but she betrayed me completely and ruined my sister's life. The only thing I have a problem is him throwing her and Usha mausi at the middle of the night. My only solace is that he was also hurting along with Sai. But he did realize and regret his mistake and apologized for it. He was ashamed of his actions and didn't just apologize for the sake of it but meant it.

3. Ajinkya issue:

Until the bedroom scene..... though he was jealous of him.....he really didn't react....he overreacted after he spotted him in his room. Though he bashed Ajinkya (totally wrong) he never called Sai characterless per se. Ofcourse Sai assumed it so (naturally) and left running from the house. My take is that he started having hopes from this relationship which he felt was crushed by her friend. Many people compare Ajinkya and Paaki. IMO, both can't be compared coz Paakhi's presence was cleared by Virat before marriage when neither of them were in love and though Paakhi kept barging and interfering in their lives.....Sai knew Virat will never cross boundries set in this relationship. But in case of Ajinkya.....Virat knew he was in love and wanted Sai in his life.....but Ajinkya was a wild card and Virat was not sure if post becoming a doctor Sai might prefer Ajinkya (who is more her age) than him.

I am not saying what he did is right.....I am saying why he did what he did. He was also willing to apologise to Ajinkya for his behaviour.

4. Post Anniversary Fiasco:

Before we count his mistakes, let's remember Sai and Virat's conversation on that night. Sai basically called him a two timer and the manner in which she spoke was beyond just rude. His subsequent actions were just a reaction to Sai's accusations not her refusal to his love. Had she just said she doesn't love him he would have accepted it. But she cheapened his gesture by calling him a two timer. He did go overboard with the taunts but she also kept taunting him on his relationship with Paakhi. Also, let's not forget the room locking scene....he was not locking her to control her....he just felt that she was behaving irrationally. Yes, he had no right to and that is borderline abuse. In the end when he saw Sai's condition post the second accident his entire world/anger/ego came tumbling down and he got a reality check and repented for his actions and behaviour.

Virat committed a lot of mistakes.....some graver than the others.....but the root cause of this is his insecurity.

We audience (including myself until yesterday) feel Sai's insecurities and excuse her for her behaviour but we fail to understand that Virat is also prone to such insecurities.

We tend to excuse Sai's mistakes (Insulting Virat in GC for her Aaba's VRS, calling Virat her Aaba's murderer infront of everyone, (though her intentions were pure) Kidnapping his mentally disturbed sister, calling him a two timer, Insulting his Anniversary gesture (if she hated it.....she could have just left.....but she chose to insult it), interfering with his career (calling him mentally unstable to his superior))

They both are at fault.....Virat slightly more than Sai. But his saving grace is that he always apologies for his mistakes. Sai never ever apologies for her mistakes. Though she is a pure soul and a kind hearted person she should realize the impact of her harsh words and actions. One can be honest and direct without being rude

Many of us give her some leeway because of her age...but the same set of people protest when she is called immature..... being young doesn't give anyone the liberty to get away with your rudeness/mistakes.

Few audiences sympathize with Sai's life experiences and treatment at CN.....guys please understand even Virat has been under tremendous pressure since a very young age - responsibility to keep everyone in the family happy so that nothing impacts his family's peace, managing a hot headed wife, a crazy ex-lover (for whom he always feels guilty for), an old fashioned & degenerative family. Trust me being the one responsible to keep the Family's peace Life long is very traumatic and stressful. Yes he loves Sai but no matter how wrong their opinions/actions may be.....he will always love his family....he might not respect them as he did before....but cutting of family ties is not easy (neither is it right). The same family has loved him immensely ( Yes, they mistreated his mother but the writers of the show don't show the Trimurti Insulting Ash in front of Virat prior to his marriage. IMO, the insult/rudeness was very subtle prior to Virat's marriage and he may have misunderstood it as kitchen politics He fights for his mother when Sai jolts him out of his stupor and makes him realize that it is not so)

If we call Virat egoistic......let's not forget Sai is equally egoistic!

Also Sai's inability to deal with her feelings is a bit too much. A person who can understand Devi Taayi's love, accept Virat's past..... understanding her own feelings should not be that difficult. That too after so much prodding by Shivani Bua, Aai, Pulkit, Devi, Mohit, Samrat!!!! By God.... someone has to be really dumb to not realise this. Yes, if she refuses to accept it despite realising it ... makes sense ...but her not understanding her own feelings despite all the flirting, eye contacts.....does not make any sense.

I myself was a ardent Sai Fan and hated Virat until yesterday but when I shared my thoughts with my friend I got to see the other side of the coin as well. Now I blame both of them equally and feel both are equally flawed.....so let's not bash Virat and expect a redemption from him alone when Sai is equally at fault. Let's just accept that they both are flawed and accept the story as is. (P.s. about the age confusion.....for me Virat is 27....period!)

Cheers and have a great day!

I soo agree with everything. Sai so confuses me many times as she understands everything and everyone but virat.sometimes she has sided with pakhi making virat look like fool. She said samrat se apanapan mila while virat was standing with her like rock from the beginning.

And yes for me virat is 27/28 which is what I assumed from beginning and nobody will change it specially amanisia struck creative team.Dimak ka dahi banane ka ek bhi mauka nahi choda unhone. Ek bar Ashwini bolti hai shadi ko 28 yrs hogaya. Then it's 37 yrs anniversary bolti hai. Sabhi ghum land mein ghum ho chuke hai

This is strictly my POV

What I feel is Virat is more realistic than Sai in behaviour wise like getting angry and doing things without thinking anything and speaking things which he doesn't mean at all in that anger etc., ofcourse something he did like ousting, locking in room were not so realistic and as it is ITV they exaggerate things and create drama for TRP. But the way he speak things in extreme anger is more realistic than anything. People who are short tempered and face problems with that can relate more. Many have itching to make people agree with them unconsciously and speak or do things in anger to make people agree with them. So I feel Virat is more realistic. In fact almost all ghum charectors are close in reality because of which Trp audience watch and are connected to it. Even SaiRat are most realistic couple leaving vaada and deal nonsense.

Coming to Virat as person is most emotional man. In his emotional nature or in full of emotions he takes extreme decisions or does things without things about them. In his emotional nature, in his extreme love for his jeeva, in order to give his love Patralekha to him, he gave that stupid vaada in spur of moment. Before marriage, when Sai mentioned Pakhi (which he forgot till that time), he put forth that deal and also to push Sai for marriage (to fulfil his vaada to Kamal sir at any cost), told Sai that she can leave after she becomes doctor.... in his concern for Sai, held her hand.... for his love and concern for devi and at the same time feeling of betrayal from his love Sai, he ousted two women from his house without thinking anything....

Because of that emotional nature, his emotions come out (especially in front of Sai) in the form of anger and in that anger he does stupid things. That extreme emotions can be love, care and concern for Sai or his love for Samrat, Devi or his insecurities. He don't know how to express that emotions, so they come out mostly in the form of anger. When he is in angry or hurt, he can't see anything beyond himself. And I feel when was hurt unconsciously he also want hurt Sai by some way to make her understand his pain. Even in real life what I observed is when we are hurt (physically or mentally), we can't see or pay any heed to other pain until it is very big. We drown ourselves in self pity. Same thing happened with Virat (ofcourse his actions are extreme which are not common in real life) and again as it is ITV they exaggerate things for drama. Many things we ignore in real life but some of those things are exaggerated and shown in serials.

Whatever it is understanding someone is not equal to supporting them. We can understand reason behind someone actions even though they are wrong. Understanding Virat doesn't means supporting his actions. When he is wrong, he is wrong. No excuse. But we can always understand why he did such things which he shouldn't have done.

I started with something and went somewhere.

DT NOTE

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I am really obsessed with virat(khadus jasus) and sai(mirchi) that i have buys bulk blank popsockets and printed there pic on them and giving it to there die heart fans. by doing this people think I'm mad. but really love to watch ghum hai kiske pyaar me. even in Canada there are people who are obsessed with his type of serials.