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Posted: 4 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

Virat realised his mistake of not talking for his mother. Took stand for her. And sad about the behaviour his father shows towards his mother. Okay. But his one day realisation & hurt is bigger than the victim who actually gone through the pain for all years? Why her pain is royally ignored while virat's one day guilt is being highlighted more. Virat didn't felt any pain when he saw his father abusing his mother for years. If there was no sai he wouldn't even feel bad for anything now. He was happy with the pampering he got from his family all those years. It is aswini who actually endured the abuse, he didn't endured any pain of watching her like this UNTIL now. It is aswini who lost her years of happiness & endured abuse. I don't have problem in makers showing virat's guilt. But don't like how they completely brushed off aswini pain. Why can't they let her speak about the abuse she went through,why can't she confront people who didn't respected her, why can't she once get angry with ninad for his abuse & question him. They can show aswini ninad patch up after showing aswini outburst. Virat's sudden guilt is not even 0.00001% of what aswini faced. Makers should highlight aswini pain more than anything.

It's not any anti virat post.

Honestly he got raja beta treatment from everyone since childhood. Aswini made sure her son don't get affected because of her marriage relationship. He would have been normal about ninad behavior now had there was no sai in his life.

That's why I can't empathize with his guilt. His education & ACP position can't put sense in his mind that he is supporting abuse. His mother directly told him she was treated as servant still he didn't do anything.

So all I expect from this track is aswini's outburst.

well he has never felt comfortable with the way his mother has been treated and we can see it. He has "tried" to speak for her, and stand for her but as sai mentioned a beautiful thing about the conditioned thing he has always felt bad but never tried to speak up. He required the external factor " entry of sai" who impacted him and he tried to dought for his mother. The first time he took stand for was for sai only and that too because of her impact on her. About ashwini i personally think this issue is not going to get over in just few episodes and they are going to deeply introspect on it .(hoping for it?😌
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Posted: 4 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

I agree about present virat's condition. My point to makers is when you can show one person emotions over 1 day guilt & pain then why can't you show the person's pain who is main victim.

Look it is a very complex situation.. I know it very well because I have been witnessing one such marriage of my and aunt and uncle for the last ten years.. But she has been suffering for 30 long years ..i have seen how their children react.. If one spouse doesn't love the other that directly raise questions on the child's value and existence..here Sai and others are just third parties and mere spectator..Writers miserably failed to highlight this aspect of the story.. They should have shown guilt ridden virat since the beginning.. Then again he has never seen his mother getting any respects from this family so he is kind of used to it.. This is what normally happens in real life as well.. No wonder often Virat expects Sai to become like Ashwini.. Still Virat is a lucky man who has an amazing mother installed so much compassion in him..

As I said this situation is very critical... He is hurt because all his guilt and pain has been bottled up because Sai nudged him.. I am not happy with the anniversary plan as its more important to work establish Aswini's respect in the family and also both mother - son need some times for themselves to release the pain..

The origin of a child is within his mother.. If the father loves his child that means he definitely loved his wife.. Ninad ones loved his wife but it's lost in the woods.. If he had never loved his wife then Virat's existence is worthless in the family.. He is only a money making machine and a tool to extent chavan family..

As I said the situation is very very painful and complex than one can imagine.. It can not be resolved withing one or two episodes .if ninad starts respecting his wife others won't dare to mistreat his wife.. Be it BK, Sonali and others..

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Posted: 4 years ago
#33

I'm hoping Ashwinis outburst comes next. I am hoping we get some dialogues from MB, shivani to bk gang reminding them of their cruelty. I hope its not glossed over. But lets see. I actually want them to drag this track out a little bit...

I didnt find a problem with what Virat said n the Sairat scene was very tender, veey beautiful but i felt like the other people like MB, Shivani and maybe even Samrat could've been used to give some more calling out to bk gang for how badly they treat ashwini. So that the focus didnt shift too much from the actual victim..

I dont think that to highlight Ashwini in this track, Sairat need to be compromised. Rather redundant crap like pp can be cut. She is saying the same thing over n over. We get it -shes angry that Sairat are together despite not being in a room.. but we dont need her to keep on getting dialogues to say that right now.

Instead they can use that extra time to focus on Ashwini..

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Posted: 4 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

That is because Virat has been very inconsistent, when it comes to what he talks about his principles and how he practices them and yet its much more than what they played with Sai.. Virat has disappointed a lot of viewers, including me , who was in this show for him. They kept on butchering his character for whatever reason. Just recently my Aunt and her househelp were talking, how he will again get back to his abusive behaviour the moment he is hurt and that its a pattern... You see that was not expected of this ML, there may be MLs in other show, but not Virat Chavan that was introduced here in this show...

I will give you and example...

Aprajeeta the actor who played RK in KD, was so good and polite towards Emon that even I would get confused if she is taunting, manipulating or genuine...So Rono getting confused and embarrassed about Emon's behaviour towards her was justified. for example when she shouts at Emon for not understanding Rono and his feelings just a day before her accident... It appears to me that she is concerned about Rono and she is scolding Emon like an elder sister...I was so confused there.. for a moment...She is so convincing that most of the times of you do not understand her you would feel Emon is being very disrespectful towards her while she is so polite...So the third angle kind of was justified there...

Here Pakhi comes across as vile and agressive she makes Virat look dumb when he fights for her respect or teams up with her or gets manipulated....you see the scenes where she gets gifts for Rono and Emon you would be like she genuinely got it...and here Pakhi gives it with a contempt on her face...so copying those scenes with an actor like Aishwarya...makes Virat look like a fool and nothing else..


I have noticed they started giving Pakhi dialogues , when it was out in open she is not able to do the graceful manipulator part, so when she enters and gives gifts to Virat she has a monologue, while RK did not, just to let the audience know what she is thinking....Actress has been incapable all throughout...Regrading coming out rude...that's her body language ...Its very aggressive and looks like she is always in attacking mode...Recently that has grown.....

RK was a great manipulator and came across extremely dignified... The way she says I am a married woman dont talk to me like that at the hospital to Pulkit looks so genuine that you would actually believe it for a moment..Pakhi goes on toh do ...SAHHHMMHHRAAAT, VIRAAATT!!

RK in between EMon and ROno was justified.. SHe did come across that she made a mistake, everytime she created a ruckus and is trying to make amends..move on...so Rono getting manipulated because of a past could be justified....For Virat it does not because the actor has said so many thing and is incapable..

For instance in the cafe scene all RK wanted ROno to do was to acknowledge his feelings for her , acknowledge the commitment..You see you feel bad for her there...SHe did not want to leave the family and run away with him...Look at what Pakhi says to him and yet Virat goes back to accuse Sai of being jealous of her, of not being like her...Makes no sense, because Pakhi spoke so much against Sai and also spoke about running away with him, suggesting an illegal relationship when Virat denied to divorce Sai...RK never asked him to divorce EMon in the first place...

RK had tears of guilt when EMon commits suicide... Even if you see the accident conversation...RK was more worried about Rono blaming himself so it all looked fine...Here we have a Pakhi yet again talking in contempt about a woman who is dying... SO in all this , if you see, blind copy paste has made Virat just not an abuser and someone who is cheating his wife in a way...Because there has been so much talks between Pakhi and Virat, especially at cafe...and yet he goes on to justify her...take her side, disrespecting his own wife who points out her intentions, the intention that she clearly told him... You see they have made Virat a look foolish in all this... to behave the way he behaved before accident track...

RK was so convincing as an actor that you could never say she is the villain, she would convince you that she is a victim here...

So there is a certain degree of thrashed expectations from Virat...bit by bit...You really dont know how he would behave some one month from now... with Patralekha or Sai or Devi or Aai. Thats what the makers have done to him... First they played with Mere liye Farz jazbaat se pehle and turned him into an abuser, in the name of copy paste and then again, since Patralekha is being played so bad that now he appears plain foolish w.r.t. her...The same man who said 2 min mei jhuth pakad leta hun...

And this is why i don't want makers to turn her into a positive character just like leena aunty turned roop into a positive character after emon left rono😡🤢

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Posted: 4 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: Iima

And this is why i don't want makers to turn her into a positive character just like leena aunty turned roop into a positive character after emon left rono😡🤢

There were hardly 30 episodes..there was no point making Samrat die there...they could have ended her with him...

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Posted: 4 years ago
#36

Yes. Emotions are same. But because Sairat and Virat specifically has now raised the issues, asked the questions, hopefully Ashwini can vent atleast a little, let out what she has had to keep within her for all these years. She has swallowed every insult, every ridicule and now finally she has the chance to say something because she has people in her corner- people that don't just pity/sympathize but will raise their voice for her. Her son is no longer the child, he is the man of the house where even the older people now actually listen to him. Samrat, Sai are also standing in support.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#37

There is nothing about ML bashing here infact all of us are praising Neils performance and for the deviation from KD in addressing these issues. But having said that there should be time/attention to Ashwini - this is her track. I really hope they dont gloss over the issues raised by them with just celebration of anniversary party and moving on. They need to spend a few episodes showing ashwinis pov, her pain, an outlet for her grief.

Why does pathetic pp need screen space or dialogues in this track . They can show her pointless crap later. She anyway keeps saying the same rubbish.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: Iima

And this is why i don't want makers to turn her into a positive character just like leena aunty turned roop into a positive character after emon left rono😡🤢

Ya same. She will always be the lusty bhabhi for me. Her sweet behaviour will be difficult to digest.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nja91

There is nothing about ML bashing here infact all of us are praising Neils performance and for the deviation from KD in addressing these issues. But having said that there should be time/attention to Ashwini - this is her track. I really hope they dont gloss over the issues raised by them with just celebration of anniversary party and moving on. They need to spend a few episodes showing ashwinis pov, her pain, an outlet for her grief.

Why does pathetic pp need screen space or dialogues in this track . They can show her pointless crap later. She anyway keeps saying the same rubbish.

agree..

Audience watch the story not any particular character.. I'm guessing this anniversary party will be another hogwash 🤢just Harini's birthday party.. 🐷I think trps fell in that track.. How can we forget that eternal hand holding during SaiRat hug 🤡

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Ya that was the most cringeworthy scene of the show.

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