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Posted: 4 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Nja91

Its difficult to watch the fierce , independent Sai Joshi be so vulnerable. Its heartbreaking. She may have people that care for her but no one can ever love her the way her aabaa did- selflessly, prioritizing her over everything n Sai of course reciprocated that. She wants acceptance and reliability in her relationships especially with Virat. She seeks similarities with aabaa in virat but she is not stupid enough to look at him as a parent. She looks at him as a husband but she's reminded of pp all the time so she tries to settle for just his care as a guardian. But she is made to feel like people are "tolerating" her- she doesn't need that. No one needs that. Especially not Sai Joshi. She needs pampering, mentoring, guidance, patience and someone that appreciates her for everything she is including her flaws. If Virat is going to behave as if he is "tolerating" her, it'll only break Sai more. Shes better off without such pity/obligatory relationship.

You have echoed my thoughts... She is just trapped into this emotional attachment from which she will take a lot of times to get out.. She needs another push and another heart breaks from Virat to fully get out of his shadow

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: vimeo

As I already told I know what place Aaba holds in Sais life. Me being a daughter who lost her father recently, I am talking from experience. At the risk of repeating myself, let me reiterate that one cannot expect a husband to be a dad. You will only be in for disappointment. As I told u its being taken too far. Cvs ought to decide whether they want to make Sairat a couple or a father-daughter duo 😑

Why I said Sai (and not cvs) shud decide is bcoz obviously she has been shown comparing Virats actions with her Aaba. (Of course its cvs who decide the storyline!) N now she shud know Virat cant be her Aaba. Only a parent can ignore / tolerate a childs brashness, rudeness and arrogance. No one else can.. They did show the same in the show as well. To an extent Virat always gave in to her tantrums but once she crossed the line by humiliating him as a two timer during anniversary his threshold was crossed and he started being indifferent. Let me not go into further details bcoz all of u know better than me on what happened in the show. What I am trying to do is illustrating my statement with an example from the show. That's all.

And excuse me, too much parent-child vibes hv already been shown. Like the kiss that Sai supposedly gave Virat after his recent fever episode.

Of course this my take.

In my opinion, this thing goes both ways. Virat had taken her Zimmedaari, he is her guardian. He prohibited her from being his wife, however, with time the attachment grew from both sides. Virat started seeing her as her wife, ofcourse no past baggage for him... Sai couldn't due to constant Pakhi's interference, she has walls high up in her heart. Like Virat did things for her in the garb of zimmedaari, she is doing it by equating with Aaba etc. You mentioned the kiss scene... I felt the scene just suited perfectly in the situation. Her taking care of him as he was important to her and getting overwhelmed by emotions at the moment.

For her to be his wife, he should be clear to want to be her husband. She asked him many times directly about their status... Whenever she starts thinking of herself as a wife and expecting their relation to take a normal turn she is thrown to his past which reminds her she cannot see him as her husband.

She should not be made to feel like a charity case. He never comes clear of his feelings, audience are left confused many times that whether he considers them to be husband-wife or zimmedaar-zimmedaar or guardian- ward.

About tolerating her brashness, Virat gave in since GC days, so there are some expectations. It's established that no bond other than parents bond with their kid is unconditional, however, when he uttered the dialogues of always waiting for her, or never making her embarassed if she doesn't love him back, it felt some soulmate connection unconditional love, but that's not so.

Edited by nikita05 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nja91

Its difficult to watch the fierce , independent Sai Joshi be so vulnerable. Its heartbreaking. She may have people that care for her but no one can ever love her the way her aabaa did- selflessly, prioritizing her over everything n Sai of course reciprocated that. She wants acceptance and reliability in her relationships especially with Virat. She seeks similarities with aabaa in virat but she is not stupid enough to look at him as a parent. She looks at him as a husband but she's reminded of pp all the time so she tries to settle for just his care as a guardian. But she is made to feel like people are "tolerating" her- she doesn't need that. No one needs that. Especially not Sai Joshi. She needs pampering, mentoring, guidance, patience and someone that appreciates her for everything she is including her flaws. If Virat is going to behave as if he is "tolerating" her, it'll only break Sai more. Shes better off without such pity/obligatory relationship.

I echo your thoughts, on the same page... With the kind of behaviour, Virat shows her, like he did before she left the Chavan Niwas and then expecting her to give that position that Aaba held (though she has already given) is not fair.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I would not dwell too much on this. You and me would go on and on like jalebis like Sai and Virat. So let's just agree to disagree and carry on...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I'm not sure....but the comparison of his 'masterpiece' to her aabha's choti seemed to me, an effort to get her to talk.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

I'm not sure....but the comparison of his 'masterpiece' to her aabha's choti seemed to me, an effort to get her to talk.

Maybe you are right. Didn't think much about it this way... Thanks for a new perspective...

I liked the scene, it was cute... Just the Aaba's comparison felt a bit much, given his behaviour in the past few days. If he had not behaved like that, would not have dwelled into the scene.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

I'm not sure....but the comparison of his 'masterpiece' to her aabha's choti seemed to me, an effort to get her to talk.

It was. I would have been able to appreciate it had he not said that she never deserved her Aaba’s love. That was why it looked too much. Speaking in anger, anyone would. We can all speak anything that comes in anger. We obviously have to watch the words that we use but people do speak things in anger. But telling a girl who lost her Dad just an year back that she never deserved his love was the most cruel thing to say. He can be upset, hurt, angry but who gave him rights to say that? It was such a below the belt comment. Hasn’t he seen their bond? And who is he to judge their relationship? He has always been a judgmental guy but that doesn’t mean he speaks this. He calls her badtameez to belittle her all the time and is now talking as her Aaba reprimanding people to have called her that. He knows that her Aaba would never be happy right? Even then he speaks that way? He can call her if she does badtameezi, not because he has failed to understand her or she has failed to understand him. What his friend is called badtameezi and how many times has he used this word against her? He thinks he holds a power on Sai because he is the guardian, her legally wedded husband, because he is elder than her and also because she has no one in the world who can question him. To be honest, it gives power to people subconsciously and if they don’t take conscience efforts not to use it in their favour, they would behave the way Virat has been behaving.

He insulted the love she had for her Dad and now him speaking this is not something I am able to even tolerate.

Edited by laksh - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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The hospital scenes were well enacted and executed. I was pretty sure that the SBS segment was going to be better than the actual scene. 😆So thank God for small mercies.

If SaiRat had a serious but humane fallout, these scenes would have sent goosebumps. But Virat's dialogues lacked meaning because of his past actions .....so it was just NeilSha I was watching for.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

It was. I would have been able to appreciate it had he not said that she never deserved her Aaba’s love. That was why it looked too much. Speaking in anger, anyone would. We can all speak anything that comes in anger. We obviously have to watch the words that we use but people do speak things in anger. But telling a girl who lost her Dad just an year back that she never deserved his love was the most cruel thing to say. He can be upset, hurt, angry but who gave him rights to say that? It was such a below the belt comment. Hasn’t he seen their bond? And who is he to judge their relationship? He has always been a judgmental guy but that doesn’t mean he speaks this. He calls her badtameez to belittle her all the time and is now talking as her Aaba reprimanding people to have called her that. He knows that her Aaba would never be happy right? Even then he speaks that way? He can call her if she does badtameezi, not because he has failed to understand her or she has failed to understand him. What his friend is called badtameezi and how many times has he used this word against her? He thinks he holds a power on Sai because he is the guardian, her legally wedded husband, because he is elder than her and also because she has no one in the world who can question him. To be honest, it gives power to people subconsciously and if they don’t take conscience efforts not to use it in their favour, they would behave the way Virat has been behaving.

He insulted the love she had for her Dad and now him speaking this is not something I am able to even tolerate.

Yes true. I had just written how none of Virat's words regarding her aabha (Abhimaan), about Sai being called jungli, badtameez, Sai obeying words said with love.....nothing had any meaning. Infact it was making me irritated...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

The hospital scenes were well enacted and executed. I was pretty sure that the SBS segment was going to be better than the actual scene. 😆So thank God for small mercies.

If SaiRat had a serious but humane fallout, these scenes would have sent goosebumps. But Virat's dialogues lacked meaning because of his past actions .....so it was just NeilSha I was watching for.

I try to watch it as episodic but have a specs of judgement on unwillingly, remembering the last few episodes and also Virat's attitude of being right and not having introspection at all... His I, me, myself attitude, rings an alarm.

The hospital scenes were really well enacted, directed and edited... Episodes are good. Dialogues are bit too much...

Edited by nikita05 - 4 years ago

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