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Originally posted by: inlieu

They all end up like that eventually. Only a handful stay the course.

I am always rooting for Raghav not because I blindly love him but because I want him to find the happiness he deserves after suffering all those years. I believe he needs to work towards that happiness and not expect it to fall in his lap just like that.
The good thing about him is he acknowledges his mistakes and tries to rectify them but only when it truly comes from within him.

This is why I used to say all the sudharofying tracks would not reform him because he would do things as a response to Pallavi or Amma's demands or requests and not because it comes from within him.

Not sure if I'm wording this right but what I'm trying to say is that while it's beautiful to see a person do or give up things for their loved one, it is much more effective when you do it for yourself. Raghav's redemption arc in the Hyderabad track worked well because he asked Pallavi for a chance to fix things no just to make amends but mainly to give himself a chance to grab this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to experience something clean and pure in his life, to get out of the darkness he had been in all these years.

Yes he's a nice man and literally works hard to keep his relationships. I love that about him. He's not gotten hapiness easily and hence tries to hold on without realising that the ones who love him will stay on despite whatever circumstances.

I wasn't happy with how the track of alcohol as well as idealogy ended. They should have spoken and addressed the main issue instead of going NDE and fertility issues blah blah. The problem is makers are doing things very superficially and we are expecting too much from them.

Stance on Esha, your post had two alternatives one where she is negative and one where she's positive.

After the precap (sleeping together), if she's positive it means Raghav did cheat on Pallavi. I don't think I even want to consider a positive Esha right now only because it shows Raghav as a cheater who slept with his ex despite claiming to love his wife and claiming to hate cheaters. A negative esha gives hopes for Raghvi to stay together without training their relationship and love

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Yes he's a nice man and literally works hard to keep his relationships. I love that about him. He's not gotten hapiness easily and hence tries to hold on without realising that the ones who love him will stay on despite whatever circumstances.

I wasn't happy with how the track of alcohol as well as idealogy ended. They should have spoken and addressed the main issue instead of going NDE and fertility issues blah blah. The problem is makers are doing things very superficially and we are expecting too much from them.

Stance on Esha, your post had two alternatives one where she is negative and one where she's positive.

After the precap (sleeping together), if she's positive it means Raghav did cheat on Pallavi. I don't think I even want to consider a positive Esha right now only because it shows Raghav as a cheater who slept with his ex despite claiming to love his wife and claiming to hate cheaters. A negative esha gives hopes for Raghvi to stay together without training their relationship and love

The ideology track should have been one of the highlights of the show but they messed it up royally and as you said the main issue wasn't really addressed. Maybe that's deliberate, so that we see him repeat the core issues again.

The third alternative that I would love to see is that she's positive and nothing happened between them - their state of undress is for other reasons that we don't know of.

Feel free to tell me I'm expecting too much creativity from CVs. 🤣

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Anu I understand what you feel right now.

I want R to come clean as well. Even their relationship truth she got to know through Esha and not Raghav which was so bad. If he lies, he will bring everything down himself.

Pallavi will lash out at him. She will never tolerate a cheating husband. She loves him way too much to tolerate this. No woman would. Her self-respect is way too important. I trust Pallavi to do the right thing, she always has. It's Raghav whom I can't understand. Will he learn from his past mistakes and tell the truth or what.

I hope you are right about Pallavi…and Raghav I have lost hopes..

Again, the drinking with ex and in the same room is all ok if his conscience is clean and he tells the truth to pallavi ki kuch nai tha..

This is where I see it differently for the following reasons

- his relationship with her was not some candy floss college romance..he was too emotionally invested in her, hence he carried it all through these years even after breakup…fair enough I give it him because of the way he went through the breakup..so he has unresolved emotions attached to her to this day…then how can he share a room with her or spend a night with her…

- if they still remained as friends after a normal breakup and moved on as any other couple will do after breakup..I would agree …Ex couple turned friends can meet greet share a drink, even share a room in emergency situations …but here clearly that’s not the case they have unresolved feelings for each other and they aware of it and that makes it problematic…

- Did Raghav know Esha still has feelings for him..yes he did…so the onus was on him to draw the line if he was not conflicted with his emotions…he not only failed to draw the line but he also clearly crossed it and that means he is conflicted and that is emotional infidelity..

- he broke his promise to Pallavi just to give in to Esha and unintentionally he prioritized Esha over Pallavi, so is it because of his lingering feelings that resurfaced after knowing the real reason behind the breakup??? I would believe yes because he prioritized Esha over Pallavi by choice not out of compulsion and this also led her to feel encouraged that they still have a chance…

He can tell a zillion times to Esha that he loves Pallavi but if his actions don’t support his words or worse contradicts them, he comes across as hypocritical shallow and untrustworthy…

We all are going by the belief that Esha has set this up and nothing happened between them, but what if she didn’t and they ended up doing the deed in an inebriated state, will his intent alone be sufficient to look past his actions and the damage he can cause to his relationship and the heartbreak he can put Pallavi through…in real life such actions are deal breakers no matter what the intent is…

Sorry for the rant…integrity is very important in a relationship, ironically Raghav himself is very particular about it and he himself compromised it here and I can’t look past it…

A lot of people may find that unacceptable but for me, his intentions matter. But jhoot is to much yaar. When he lies about this, it fuels her doubts and questions her blind trust.

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Originally posted by: inlieu

The ideology track should have been one of the highlights of the show but they messed it up royally and as you said the main issue wasn't really addressed. Maybe that's deliberate, so that we see him repeat the core issues again.

The third alternative that I would love to see is that she's positive and nothing happened between them - their state of undress is for other reasons that we don't know of.

Feel free to tell me I'm expecting too much creativity from CVs. 🤣

Bold, Don't you already know this, mere bolne ki kya zarurat hai.😒

Honestly I'm super disappointed at the idealogy track. It fell flat so badly and literally wasted an opportunity to show good content without third angles.

Anu I understand what you feel right now.

I want R to come clean as well. Even their relationship truth she got to know through Esha and not Raghav which was so bad. If he lies, he will bring everything down himself.

Pallavi will lash out at him. She will never tolerate a cheating husband. She loves him way too much to tolerate this. No woman would. Her self-respect is way too important. I trust Pallavi to do the right thing, she always has. It's Raghav whom I can't understand. Will he learn from his past mistakes and tell the truth or what.

I hope you are right about Pallavi…and Raghav I have lost hopes..

Again, the drinking with ex and in the same room is all ok if his conscience is clean and he tells the truth to pallavi ki kuch nai tha..

This is where I see it differently for the following reasons

- his relationship with her was not some candy floss college romance..he was too emotionally invested in her, hence he carried it all through these years even after breakup…fair enough I give it him because of the way he went through the breakup..so he has unresolved emotions attached to her to this day…then how can he share a room with her or spend a night with her… they did resolve their issues today right? He made it clear to her that he has an awesome wife and they both love each other. With respect to the room sharing, again it's a personal tolerance limit, if he comes clean to Pallavi about it and knowing he doesn't feel for Esha anymore, I can let it slide. I can understand if this is something you can't pass. We need to see how Pals takes this. Ufff... It's a slippery slope for sure.

- if they still remained as friends after a normal breakup and moved on as any other couple will do after breakup..I would agree …Ex couple turned friends can meet greet share a drink, even share a room in emergency situations …but here clearly that’s not the case they have unresolved feelings for each other and they aware of it and that makes it problematic… again, I think there's no conflict, he's too emotional a person and may feel guilty that Esha lived a painful life but he loves Pallavi. I can let this slide.

- Did Raghav know Esha still has feelings for him..yes he did…so the onus was on him to draw the line if he was not conflicted with his emotions…he not only failed to draw the line but he also clearly crossed it and that means he is conflicted and that is emotional infidelity.. yes he should have drawn the line but he did come clear to her about his love for Pallavi. I'm conflicted about the emotional infidelity part coz he's definitely lying but will I call him a cheater, I'm not so sure.

- he broke his promise to Pallavi just to give in to Esha and unintentionally he prioritized Esha over Pallavi, so is it because of his lingering feelings that resurfaced after knowing the real reason behind the breakup??? I would believe yes because he prioritized Esha over Pallavi by choice not out of compulsion and this also led her to feel encouraged that they still have a chance… his actions are so in the middle right now that it make come across as leading Esha on. I have nothing to add to that. He just had to step away. Tomorrow we'll get to know if he actually does or not.

He can tell a zillion times to Esha that he loves Pallavi but if his actions don’t support his words or worse contradicts them, he comes across as hypocritical shallow and untrustworthy… he needs to do more than just speak. My heart is already breaking for Pallavi

We all are going by the belief that Esha has set this up and nothing happened between them, but what if she didn’t and they ended up doing the deed in an inebriated state, will his intent alone be sufficient to look past his actions and the damage he can cause to his relationship and the heartbreak he can put Pallavi through…in real life such actions are deal breakers no matter what the intent is…

Sorry for the rant…integrity is very important in a relationship, ironically Raghav himself is very particular about it and he himself compromised it here and I can’t look past it… if this isn't a set up and he slept with esha in a drunken state, this is it. I want Pallavi to leave him and go and never ever I really mean it never ever come back. Cheating is something that's too big a line to cross in a marriage. I'm working under the assumption that Esha has drugged him. Can someone pls confirm this is true? Does anyone believe he wasn't drugged?

A lot of people may find that unacceptable but for me, his intentions matter. But jhoot is to much yaar. When he lies about this, it fuels her doubts and questions her blind trust.

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Originally posted by: inlieu

The ideology track should have been one of the highlights of the show but they messed it up royally and as you said the main issue wasn't really addressed. Maybe that's deliberate, so that we see him repeat the core issues again.

So true. When they brought the track I was surprised. Was this show going to deliver what it promised??

And I got trigger happy ACP, some ridiculous dialogues, Pallavi getting shot and Raghav going completely white. My problem with this was that the issue wasn't just safety it was also what one finds right and wrong which had no closure in the end. Alcohol was even worse.. infertility lie and that too using the stupid biscuit chai thing which isn't even about fertility!

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Anu I understand what you feel right now.

I want R to come clean as well. Even their relationship truth she got to know through Esha and not Raghav which was so bad. If he lies, he will bring everything down himself.

Pallavi will lash out at him. She will never tolerate a cheating husband. She loves him way too much to tolerate this. No woman would. Her self-respect is way too important. I trust Pallavi to do the right thing, she always has. It's Raghav whom I can't understand. Will he learn from his past mistakes and tell the truth or what.

I hope you are right about Pallavi…and Raghav I have lost hopes..

Again, the drinking with ex and in the same room is all ok if his conscience is clean and he tells the truth to pallavi ki kuch nai tha..

This is where I see it differently for the following reasons

- his relationship with her was not some candy floss college romance..he was too emotionally invested in her, hence he carried it all through these years even after breakup…fair enough I give it him because of the way he went through the breakup..so he has unresolved emotions attached to her to this day…then how can he share a room with her or spend a night with her… they did resolve their issues today right? He made it clear to her that he has an awesome wife and they both love each other. With respect to the room sharing, again it's a personal tolerance limit, if he comes clean to Pallavi about it and knowing he doesn't feel for Esha anymore, I can let it slide. I can understand if this is something you can't pass. We need to see how Pals takes this. Ufff... It's a slippery slope for sure.

- if they still remained as friends after a normal breakup and moved on as any other couple will do after breakup..I would agree …Ex couple turned friends can meet greet share a drink, even share a room in emergency situations …but here clearly that’s not the case they have unresolved feelings for each other and they aware of it and that makes it problematic… again, I think there's no conflict, he's too emotional a person and may feel guilty that Esha lived a painful life but he loves Pallavi. I can let this slide.

- Did Raghav know Esha still has feelings for him..yes he did…so the onus was on him to draw the line if he was not conflicted with his emotions…he not only failed to draw the line but he also clearly crossed it and that means he is conflicted and that is emotional infidelity.. yes he should have drawn the line but he did come clear to her about his love for Pallavi. I'm conflicted about the emotional infidelity part coz he's definitely lying but will I call him a cheater, I'm not so sure.

- he broke his promise to Pallavi just to give in to Esha and unintentionally he prioritized Esha over Pallavi, so is it because of his lingering feelings that resurfaced after knowing the real reason behind the breakup??? I would believe yes because he prioritized Esha over Pallavi by choice not out of compulsion and this also led her to feel encouraged that they still have a chance… his actions are so in the middle right now that it make come across as leading Esha on. I have nothing to add to that. He just had to step away. Tomorrow we'll get to know if he actually does or not.

He can tell a zillion times to Esha that he loves Pallavi but if his actions don’t support his words or worse contradicts them, he comes across as hypocritical shallow and untrustworthy… he needs to do more than just speak. My heart is already breaking for Pallavi

We all are going by the belief that Esha has set this up and nothing happened between them, but what if she didn’t and they ended up doing the deed in an inebriated state, will his intent alone be sufficient to look past his actions and the damage he can cause to his relationship and the heartbreak he can put Pallavi through…in real life such actions are deal breakers no matter what the intent is…

Sorry for the rant…integrity is very important in a relationship, ironically Raghav himself is very particular about it and he himself compromised it here and I can’t look past it… if this isn't a set up and he slept with esha in a drunken state, this is it. I want Pallavi to leave him and go and never ever I really mean it never ever come back. Cheating is something that's too big a line to cross in a marriage. I'm working under the assumption that Esha has drugged him. Can someone pls confirm this is true? Does anyone believe he wasn't drugged?

Was he drugged or not did they do the deed or not, but Raghav will believe he DID, so he was capable of DOING IT, he voluntarily put himself in that situation so that itself makes him a cheat…is his intent enough to whitewash his actions…reverse the gender..naked Pallavi next to naked Mandar…will we be then talking about intent, deed done or not, who drugged who or will we be questioning her actions??? Words carry no weights when not matched with actions…

A lot of people may find that unacceptable but for me, his intentions matter. But jhoot is to much yaar. When he lies about this, it fuels her doubts and questions her blind trust.

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Amazing post ❤️

Pallavi clearly needs to step back but are makers brave enough to show that ? I hope they are.

Pallavi might sacrifice

Originally posted by: Ritshem

Pallavi might sacrifice

I will hate her if she does that…I want her to breakdown badly and him to witness it to know what he has done to her and then rip him apart and walk away like a warrior…that would be my girl….

The writers can at least give this for ruining Raghav royally…