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Posted: 4 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: sadiltl

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how nice it is to read this


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I completely agee.


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Yes I also believe that she is the idealist in the plot. She cant be wrong, even if her ways are little quirky. She has flaws not weaknesses.


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for me Virat is very real. He is a nice man, has good intentions but he can lose his sense of morality, right or wrong under pressure. definitely a weekness.

Virat has abundant love for Sai, but for marriage to work he should learn to respect at all cost. Love can remain without a marriage. But marriage needs both!


Superbly put, even though you did not specify the incident where they could have made it work! :)

Yeah there were many incidents where they could take their marriage to next level.. For example on Harini's birthday night if she didn't hear all those from pp.. And during their Anniversary trip.. If Sai didn't meet Samrat or manner less yoga instructor

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sadiltl


All these are the reasons for the drag we are seeing! But yeah post ladakh fight was the time, when he could have just rubbished about the past. How he behaved later with Pakhi or Sai, would have had consequences still..but at that moment that I mentioned, he had an option to turn the tables.

This wasn’t a drag from what I understand. This was yet another scenario when Virat failed to realise his mistakes. He wanted to bring Sai back home but without actually realising what he had done and how wrong he was to have even ousted her. I agree with Mounika that him realising it and bringing Sai back would have made a lot of difference. Virat fails to introspect and that’s another reason why he keeps making mistakes or abuses, then apologises which is again a momentary one and goes back to making another mistake.

What was drag was him not confessing to Sai after Sai’s birthday. From then onwards, they literally started to drag even though there was no logic behind anything. But the drag was only for the confession, both Virat and Sai remained in their characters even then.

What Mounika is trying to say is that if Virat had actually brought Sai back after realising what he had done snd how wrong he was, it would mean that he would be actually correcting what he had done. By bringing back Sai only because it was proved that Pulkit wasn’t wrong, he has failed to realise what he had done. He got Sai back in his life easily and without any redemption. He had even asked Sai to not bring it up when he himself should have apologised to her for it. It can take many many years for Sai to let go of it and for him to apologise but he instead put an end to the matter by asking her if she is going to make him feel bad. He didn’t even tell Sunny that he ousted Sai when Sai left to Pulkit’s house after Harini’s birthday but he instead told him that Sai had left the house. If this is how he is going to act, how will he accept or realise that he had abused Sai by locking her up in the room. He would keep continuing to do such things and wouldn’t even realise what he has done, how wrong he has been. If a person doesn’t realise what he has done, how would he even correct himself. Sai left this house for many reasons this time and one of those reasons was how he acted this time. Hence, if this marriage has to work, he has to realise what he has been doing, how abusive he gets, how he has been taking Sai for granted, how much liberty he has given to Pakhi to interfere in his life, how he doesn’t care when Pakhi badmouths Sai and how he himself gangs up with Pakhi to humiliate and hurt Sai. The marriage will work only when he works on himself more than anything else IMO.

Edited by laksh - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sadiltl

Another major track where he could have put a stop to Pakhi and past is after GC return and stopping Sai. Sai was happy he stopped her, if only he could have cleared 'again' during post birthday fight, things would have not gotten ugly. I dont find any strong motivation in the story why he could not do that, except to drag it further. They added a nice drama of baby talk, it could have set things in motion for the clarification.

Hmm, as I had replied in my first comment in this post, I no longer think that him clarifying to Sai is alone going to help Sadhika. As I have said, Virat has to introspect. He has to try to understand Sai, her hurt snd pain, has to try to understand what her problem is. He has to stop abusing Sai and also has to learn to draw lines with Pakhi. As I have said already, he first needs to understand what he wants. He cannot let anyone this close the way he is letting Pakhi. He has to learn to respect Sai and protect her honour irrespective of whether he is upset with her or not. Not only does he fail to protect her, he himself humiliates her whenever he is upset with her, teaming up with people who hate or dislike Sai. Such traits are not good and it will be very difficult to live with such a person as a spouse.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

Hmm, as I had replied in my first comment in this post, I no longer think that him clarifying to Sai is alone going to help Sadhika. As I have said, Virat has to introspect. He has to try to understand Sai, her hurt snd pain, has to try to understand what her problem is. He has to stop abusing Sai and also has to learn to draw lines with Pakhi. As I have said already, he first needs to understand what he wants. He cannot let anyone this close the way he is letting Pakhi. He has to learn to respect Sai and protect her honour irrespective of whether he is upset with her or not. Not only does he fail to protect her, he himself humiliates her whenever he is upset with her, teaming up with people who hate or dislike Sai. Such traits are not good and it will be very difficult to live with such a person as a spouse.


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This I agree. I am not sure how much trigger he needs to do that. I did not like him opening up to Pakhi yesterday either, honestly. Waiting for today, to see if my opinion will be changed. More than him insulting Sai, I dont want him to entertain Pakhi in any way, not even as a family member. She needs to know, from his side every emotion is closed, and she should know that from his responses towards her. In KD, I felt Rono's actions were clearer in this aspect.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

This wasn’t a drag from what I understand. This was yet another scenario when Virat failed to realise his mistakes. He wanted to bring Sai back home but without actually realising what he had done and how wrong he was to have even ousted her. I agree with Mounika that him realising it and bringing Sai back would have made a lot of difference. Virat fails to introspect and that’s another reason why he keeps making mistakes or abuses, then apologises which is again a momentary one and goes back to making another mistake.

What was drag was him not confessing to Sai after Sai’s birthday. From then onwards, they literally started to drag even though there was no logic behind anything. But the drag was only for the confession, both Virat and Sai remained in their characters even then.

What Mounika is trying to say is that if Virat had actually brought Sai back after realising what he had done snd how wrong he was, it would mean that he would be actually correcting what he had done. By bringing back Sai only because it was proved that Pulkit wasn’t wrong, he has failed to realise what he had done. He got Sai back in his life easily and without any redemption. He had even asked Sai to not bring it up when he himself should have apologised to her for it. It can take many many years for Sai to let go of it and for him to apologise but he instead put an end to the matter by asking her if she is going to make him feel bad. He didn’t even tell Sunny that he ousted Sai when Sai left to Pulkit’s house after Harini’s birthday but he instead told him that Sai had left the house. If this is how he is going to act, how will he accept or realise that he had abused Sai by locking her up in the room. He would keep continuing to do such things and wouldn’t even realise what he has done, how wrong he has been. If a person doesn’t realise what he has done, how would he even correct himself. Sai left this house for many reasons this time and one of those reasons was how he acted this time. Hence, if this marriage has to work, he has to realise what he has been doing, how abusive he gets, how he has been taking Sai for granted, how much liberty he has given to Pakhi to interfere in his life, how he doesn’t care when Pakhi badmouths Sai and how he himself gangs up with Pakhi to humiliate and hurt Sai. The marriage will work only when he works on himself more than anything else IMO.

I agree with laksh, right now for sairat to become normal both of them should realize their own mistakes irrespective of what the other doing... Because one's mistake will not justify the inhuman step you take ... As Samrat said kisiko sahi rasthe pe lane kaliye time kudh galath nahi kar sakthe ho....

Same way Sai and virat both mainly virat won't release their mistake , his guilt only depends on whether sai is proved right or wrong, but inspite of that the day he starts to realize he did acted wrong irrespective sai mistakes he will take a step forward in his relationship, same way Sai should realize how hard words can hurt someone especially when you are not completely sure about the situation ( example blaming him for not being happy for Samrat return after anniversary), she will take step forward. And again virat acting all hurt and indifferent is fair from pov but him crossing line is what inhuman and that's what he should realize... Untill unless they both realize their mistakes mainly virat , this will go in circles... Because unless virat realizes his mistake like locking up the door, he will do it again next time in some other situation as he feel that is the way to control her which is wrong... So this story is not going anywhere, they might confess , have baby but there will be no growth in their bond unless they realize where and WHAT they did wrong.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

For me, It wasn’t marriage but lot of other things which I felt could have kicked off their journey in the right way.

I always wanted Sai to stop Virat when he was about to leave GC when he had come to speak to her in her room. She called him since she needed him and it looked as though she wanted his emotional support at that time. Things might have been different but I don’t know.

Other than this, I wanted Virat to share about his past but not put any conditions or deal in the marriage, even keeping an option of ending it once she become a doctor.

I would have actually preferred Sai refusing to get married to him with all such conditions, and then for him to have taken Sai with him as a guardian, let her stay in CN or get her admitted in a hostel and for him to keep a check on her every now and then.


If it has to be after their marriage, even then I would have preferred for Sai to have walked out of the house after the pyaari cheez behaviour of Virat when he said he never wished that he went to GC or atleast after the chilly kaand. As you said, Sai felt some pull towards Virat anyway, Virat would have also missed Sai just like how he missed her when she moved to Usha Maushi’s room. He could have tried to make some amends after she moves out but without her returning to the house. Sometimes, we take people for granted when we get it easily and if both had to get it the hard way, both would have respected and valued each other. It would have been better if Sai had put her foot down to let him know that she wouldn’t tolerate whatever his family was doing. Virat would have been forced to do something about the treatment Sai was receiving. Also, they could have actually got to understand each other outside the house, without much of Pakhi’s interference or misunderstanding. Virat would have also been able to understand what he wants and if he really had accepted Sai as she is and if he had really wanted her in his life, he might have acted differently.

Things have changed a lot and from the recent events, I have come to a different conclusion. My views about their relationship has entirely changed.

Yes, if Virat had cleared to Sai during the Ladakh fight, it would have helped for Sai to understand him better but at the moment, I feel Virat himself needs to first realise what he wants. He should understand what Sai goes through in his house and it is not a normal thing, not something one should take it lightly. He should also understand that he cannot give so much of liberty to his ex whom he has made his friend. He first needs to understand and prioritise what he needs, whom he values the most.

Even if Virat had cleared Sai’s confusion, his attitude towards Pakhi or the way he reacts during situations would always be a problem. Without that being addressed, even if he comes clean about Pakhi to Sai, I feel that it is not going to help.

Both has to learn to respect each other and value each other. If not, their relationship is always going to be a failure or it will be a relationship where one will be always required to compromise.

@bold... Laksh I said something in same lines

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sadiltl


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This I agree. I am not sure how much trigger he needs to do that. I did not like him opening up to Pakhi yesterday either, honestly. Waiting for today, to see if my opinion will be changed. More than him insulting Sai, I dont want him to entertain Pakhi in any way, not even as a family member. She needs to know, from his side every emotion is closed, and she should know that from his responses towards her. In KD, I felt Rono's actions were clearer in this aspect.

@bold One can express their hurt through anger or harsh words or by staying indifferent. He should not entertain Pakhi is one thing, he also shouldn’t be bullying her ganging up with anyone else too. If Sonali or Kaku or anyone badmouths Sai and if he himself is upset with Sai, he shouldn’t join hands with them to intentionally hurt her. That also looks problematic.

Otherwise, he can obviously express his hurt through anger too but again by keeping a check that he doesn’t cross the line. Sai is also quite rude many times and I have wanted her too to mend her ways. Only the person at the receiving end would know hurtful it is when a person acts rude/harsh. So, it is okay for him to express that but by always staying in limits, by not getting abusive at any cost.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I had this epiphany yesterday that the whole story whether we like it or not is going to be about Sai wanting to be with him and therefore accepting Pakhi in his life. That's the story. She accepting him ..the way he is. He also accepts her as she is but at this juncture, it's conditional. Maybe there's no such thing as unconditional love but in a relay it's about acceptance and compromise on both sides. Here, Sai will compromise on Pakhi's presence and Virat's soft corner for Pakhi. And Virat...?? What is his compromise??

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I missed the tag (and the post)


There were two situations where Virat could have come clean on his past. One was after Ladakh trip cancellation and another after Harini birthday. Both the times were wasted on miscommunication.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: scarlett22

I had this epiphany yesterday that the whole story whether we like it or not is going to be about Sai wanting to be with him and therefore accepting Pakhi in his life. That's the story. She accepting him ..the way he is. He also accepts her as she is but at this juncture, it's conditional. Maybe there's no such thing as unconditional love but in a relay it's about acceptance and compromise on both sides. Here, Sai will compromise on Pakhi's presence and Virat's soft corner for Pakhi. And Virat...?? What is his compromise??

Wow this sounds wonderful and plausible too like in real life marriages. But I believe virat need not compromise. He landed gold in sai! 👍


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