Rewind and Review - Episode 17 - Page 5

Originally posted by: black.snowflake

I keep thinking this and then imagining how heartbreaking and scary it must feel. To have a home and a family and still feel unsafe. These issues were always expressed between the lines like women feeling unsecure in their own surroundings.

Parents say sasural will be her home.

In laws say mayka is her home.

Between the two, a woman never really feels belongingness...

If parents turn away, where should they go in crisis?

Originally posted by: AK_2010

Is that the thing told told to many girls? There are still many families who call beti paraya dhan.

Parents say sasural will be her home.

In laws say mayka is her home.

Between the two, a woman never really feels belongingness...

If parents turn away, where should they go in crisis?

Isn't there a saying about a women arriving in a dholi and leaving only when she dies from here sasuraal? I'm sure my translation is a little messed up.

I'm just frustrated that we never make up any rules for men. What is a responsibility of a son? a son in law? does he have one home? two homes? What makes the all mighty Y gene so powerful???

Originally posted by: mallukumari

Isn't there a saying about a women arriving in a dholi and leaving only when she dies from here sasuraal? I'm sure my translation is a little messed up.

I'm just frustrated that we never make up any rules for men. What is a responsibility of a son? a son in law? does he have one home? two homes? What makes the all mighty Y gene so powerful???

That’s coz all the rules are made by men, for men and to accommodate men!

I once heard in a Tamil movie a famous hero sprouting a dialogue like “If it wasn’t for the fact that you women can reproduce, you all are worth nothing!” I can’t tell you how enraged I was. This is the thought process of many people. That’s what women are worth.

A man if he stays away from his family after marriage, it’s a grave mistake.

But a woman having to stay away from her family after marriage is tradition.

And we are conditioned to believe that.

Originally posted by: AK_2010

Is that the thing told told to many girls? There are still many families who call beti paraya dhan.

Parents say sasural will be her home.

In laws say mayka is her home.

Between the two, a woman never really feels belongingness...

If parents turn away, where should they go in crisis?

I hate that phrase paraya dhan. Is a woman a commodity or a thing that you use terms like that for her?

It’s sad that 2021 and still women are taught that they have no home to call their own.

Originally posted by: lavs_157

I hate that phrase paraya dhan. Is a woman a commodity or a thing that you use terms like that for her?

It’s sad that 2021 and still women are taught that they have no home to call their own.

Today found the time to watch episode 17.

It is incredible how the makers present all the characters so well. Rami Bhallah is spot on as the father who has had enough of a daughter who is always challenging him. He wants to shift this responsibility to somebody else and could not care less how they treat her. At the end of the day, Anokhi is not considered as a child here, she is the punishment he has to pay. To think that there must be other Anokhis in this world who must be facing the same situation.

If there is no Asthaa, Anokhi is gone for a toss. Anokhi had only Asthaa mam in mind when she learned about Monty's reality. Asthaa would be the only one who can understand her dilemma. Unfortunately for her she also met Asthaa's father who gave her the hope that father's do care for their daughter and it is that last ray of hope that made her go back, and get all her illusions shattered. All men in her family want to get rid of her so that they all achieve their goals, Rami to get her off his hands, whilst Raja and Vineet wants a passport to Canada.

Rama and Babli have no say at all, and again this made me reflect on the fact that in certain countries women have lesser value. I remember one college student from Ethiopia who was telling me that in the region where she comes from, if a girl is raped, her police statement has no value. Only if a man gives a statement then it has any meaning.

Watching the scene where Babli and Rama are treated as lesser mortals was very hard to digest for me.

The more I watch the dynamics of the Bhallah men, the more I believe there is a need for S2.

Now for Shaurya, his eyes said it all. Despite all his hatred towards his mother when he sees her, he suffers and I get the feeling he wants a hug from her and her saying to him, all this was a nightmare I am here for you.

Unfortunately he is immediately reminded of the reality and BM poisoning is very strong, so strong that he did not have the courage to acknowledge his nana.Maybe he knew he would break down if he tells them who he was.

Shaurya needs big hugs full of love and not those condescending pats from BM.

Originally posted by: AK_2010

Is that the thing told told to many girls? There are still many families who call beti paraya dhan.

Parents say sasural will be her home.

In laws say mayka is her home.

Between the two, a woman never really feels belongingness...

If parents turn away, where should they go in crisis?

It is good that nowadays, girls are expressing the wish to have their own place after marriage. Then they do not have mayka or in laws to deal with. They make their home.

Originally posted by: lavs_157

That’s coz all the rules are made by men, for men and to accommodate men!

I once heard in a Tamil movie a famous hero sprouting a dialogue like “If it wasn’t for the fact that you women can reproduce, you all are worth nothing!” I can’t tell you how enraged I was. This is the thought process of many people. That’s what women are worth.

A man if he stays away from his family after marriage, it’s a grave mistake.

But a woman having to stay away from her family after marriage is tradition.

And we are conditioned to believe that.

@bold: i always laugh at this. Because I always say that as soon as science figures out how to make a one cell sperm, men are going to become useless! Good luck men trying to come up with a replacement uterus to carry their child!

me in green!

Originally posted by: kiranpri

Today found the time to watch episode 17.

It is incredible how the makers present all the characters so well. Rami Bhallah is spot on as the father who has had enough of a daughter who is always challenging him. He wants to shift this responsibility to somebody else and could not care less how they treat her. At the end of the day, Anokhi is not considered as a child here, she is the punishment he has to pay. To think that there must be other Anokhis in this world who must be facing the same situation.

Exactly!! Mr. Bhalla is just looking for a hand off. I can't believe a man can have so much disgust for his own child to send her off into an unknown future. His redemption continues to piss me off.

If there is no Asthaa, Anokhi is gone for a toss. Anokhi had only Asthaa mam in mind when she learned about Monty's reality. Asthaa would be the only one who can understand her dilemma. Unfortunately for her she also met Asthaa's father who gave her the hope that father's do care for their daughter and it is that last ray of hope that made her go back, and get all her illusions shattered. All men in her family want to get rid of her so that they all achieve their goals, Rami to get her off his hands, whilst Raja and Vineet wants a passport to Canada.

Rama and Babli have no say at all, and again this made me reflect on the fact that in certain countries women have lesser value. I remember one college student from Ethiopia who was telling me that in the region where she comes from, if a girl is raped, her police statement has no value. Only if a man gives a statement then it has any meaning.

That story is heartbreaking. It's sad to hear about the conditions of women across the globe. It always makes me appreciate my great privilege.

Watching the scene where Babli and Rama are treated as lesser mortals was very hard to digest for me.

The more I watch the dynamics of the Bhallah men, the more I believe there is a need for S2.

Now for Shaurya, his eyes said it all. Despite all his hatred towards his mother when he sees her, he suffers and I get the feeling he wants a hug from her and her saying to him, all this was a nightmare I am here for you.

Unfortunately he is immediately reminded of the reality and BM poisoning is very strong, so strong that he did not have the courage to acknowledge his nana.Maybe he knew he would break down if he tells them who he was.

Shaurya needs big hugs full of love and not those condescending pats from BM.

Shaurya was acting like a child in front of his Nanaji and his mother. And probably could have used the hug. His birthday night she did try to hug him, but that was probably not the right time or place for it.

I merged your other post with this!

I also find the contrast between the two fathers a well executed scene by the makers. Telling us not all fathers are like Mr Bhallah. A nice way to get the message without having anyone saying anything explicitly.

I'm happy they didn't generalize on mothers or fathers. Rama was a weaker mom who stood tall when her child needed her. Devi was a horrible "mom" but did "love" her child. Gayatri was a silent mom who never stood up for anyone. Aastha was a imperfect mom for Shaurya but a perfect ma'am for Anokhi. With the Dads, Tej was horrible but still 'loved' his son. Alok was a bad man, but loved his kids. Mr. Bhalla was all around horrible. Shaan was again switching between good dad and bad dad. Mr. Kashyap was the only gold standard for fathers.

Maybe the message here was not that Asthaa has forgotten him, but he has been denied the love of two loving grandparents because of the actions of his parents.

One thing I liked about Asthaa, during that meeting, is that we are given a glimpse of the type of mother should have have been towards Shaurya. She would have put him in his place with discipline whenever he would have gone astray. He would not have been that spoilt male chauvinist who believe that women are meant for the home and need to be taken care of.

I really enjoy that about Aastha's personality. She's weak for her son and knows she did him wrong as a mother. But she won't take any disrespect as a woman.