Heartbreaking. - Page 12

Originally posted by: Rdigest

@bold this is what confused me, if he is worried he doesn't know how Sai would react and so is not sharing, how come he did not notice the hurt when the yoga lady was blabbering 🤣. His character is contradicting

Wahi toh samajh nahi aata 😆

Originally posted by: Devikadish

It is soo frustrating to see people blame Sai this harshly. Why the f*ck do people forget that she is JUST A 19 YO FREAKING ORPHANED TEENAGER. This age is meant for enjoying life, and how easily people expect her to behave like a wife, when her husband has not cleared any of her misunderstanding. That girl didn't even get time and space to grieve for her father's demise. Baba, some people really get on my nerves.

IKR even Virat expect her to act normally. I am like come on guys , she has been kidnapped , harassed , forced to almost get married to her harasser , saw her father shot by that harasser infront of her eyes , lost her father , got married when she doesn't want to at such a young age just after 2-3 days of her father's demise and then got married to a man she doesn't like and who already loves someone else and will never be her husband and then enters her new home where she's ridiculed , insulted , tortured mentally and sometimes physically too and is still expected to act normal and adjust. Like seriously , Sai didn't even get to grieve her father's death properly and was forced to endure insults from new family on daily basis and still told to adjust. Here , Virat also think that Sai is brave and can defend herself so she doesn't get much affected by his family's taunts , just because she can defend herself doesn't mean his family's behaviour doesn't hurt her she is a human too , she has feelings too. It's not possible to think of only Aai , Mohit , Shivani , Devi and Veeru as family and not others they live there too , they are her family too so their behaviour hurts her too. Just because she can fight doesn't mean she has to fight daily , she gets tired of fighting too. She's suffering so much , has so much emotions suppressed inside her and never got a proper chance or way to pour out her emotions so she shouldn't be expected to act normally and be a happy wifey when MUs aren't cleared by Veeru.

Originally posted by: KashishSingh27

IKR even Virat expect her to act normally. I am like come on guys , she has been kidnapped , harassed , forced to almost get married to her harasser , saw her father shot by that harasser infront of her eyes , lost her father , got married when she doesn't want to at such a young age just after 2-3 days of her father's demise and then got married to a man she doesn't like and who already loves someone else and will never be her husband and then enters her new home where she's ridiculed , insulted , tortured mentally and sometimes physically too and is still expected to act normal and adjust. Like seriously , Sai didn't even get to grieve her father's death properly and was forced to endure insults from new family on daily basis and still told to adjust. Here , Virat also think that Sai is brave and can defend herself so she doesn't get much affected by his family's taunts , just because she can defend herself doesn't mean his family's behaviour doesn't hurt her she is a human too , she has feelings too. It's not possible to think of only Aai , Mohit , Shivani , Devi and Veeru as family and not others they live there too , they are her family too so their behaviour hurts her too. Just because she can fight doesn't mean she has to fight daily , she gets tired of fighting too. She's suffering so much , has so much emotions suppressed inside her and never got a proper chance or way to pour out her emotions so she shouldn't be expected to act normally and be a happy wifey when MUs aren't cleared by Veeru.

I am not sure what much to add!

But there was a very important aspect of her dialogue today..She said I begged you to not marry me, to not spoil your life in my miseries.. You see after this whole Virat's expert story on love and Yoga instructors talk, she is convinced that its her who came in between two lovers and she feels that she has destroyed Virat's life by being in it... For her this day is a reminder that he rejected her as a woman ..over another woman and Yoga instructors words enforced it even more..If she was not in picture, she would have let it go to some extent... But like I said, whenever she tries to think on this and she is used to think a lot before the whole Ladakh trip issue, Pakhi or something else related to Pakhi comes into picture...

I have a good idea based on this topic🤣

why wait for 5 years this relationship is toxic and is not going anywhere its stuck at vaada & zimmedaari needle why not just divorce each other and go separate ways rather than hurting each other badly

Divorce each other and get rid of the relationship if destiny wants them to meet again than they will meet & fall in love w/o vaada & zimmedaari

Its irritating to see back to square one😡lets see how it goes

Originally posted by: laksh

I agree with everything you have said. Virat knows how Sai likes simple things and he loves it about her. All these celebration, tham jam is not going to help in anyway, he is not doing whatever is needed to save his relationship. Only thing that could make Sai realise what he feels for her is him clarifying about his past to Sai and also stand up against or confront Pakhi whenever she talks ill about Sai or whenever she accuses him that he has cheated her or whenever she tells that Sai has come in between them. Only when she can see him denying all claims of Pakhi can she even see that they don’t have anything between them. Only when Sai is reassured that there is nothing between him and Pakhi, that he doesn’t have any feelings for Pakhi, that he is not trying to act like an husband to Sai because they got married or out of obligation, will Sai be able to understand that she means something to him, he wants to give a chance to their relationship. Sai is not one who values materialistic things and this party is not going to make her feel their journey of togetherness. The moment when Virat showed her the photos, claiming that it was them together, Sai’s cluelessness, her hurt, her confusion said it all. They were together but she never was a part of it, she never even let her to be a part of it as per his expectations to not have expectations from him. It looked as though he was rubbing salt on her wounds because what he is claiming to be their journey of togetherness, she was living under an impression that he was fulfilling his responsibility, he has some other commitment, she was told that he cannot be her husband and she cannot be his wife. In that journey, she had only tried to ensure that she sticks to her end of the deal and the whole journey was painful to her because it would have taken a lot of courage and determination to not waiver, to not consider or look at their marriage as a real one, to not develop any expectations from him, to not fall for him, she had chided herself, brushed aside any kind of feelings that developed within her. She used to ask herself if she had started to like him and would not even let herself to think any further in those lines. Time and again she was made to feel as if she had come in between him and his love either by him in the initial days of their journey or by Pakhi till today which Virat fails to condemn or correct.

He wants to celebrate the journey because he had let himself to be a part of that journey, he could allow himself to have feelings for her and to also have expectations from her but she was told that this was all a sham at the beginning of the journey, she was told that he cannot give a place to her in his heart or life, had asked her not to have expectations from him as a wife and hence she never let herself to be a part of that same journey, never allowed herself to have any feelings for him or have any expectations from him. The whole journey was painful for her and he wanted to celebrate that. His story at the lovers point and his silence when the yoga instructor spoke about Pakhi wounded her just in the morning and she was expected to celebrate wedding anniversary which was made a deal by him and not her.

@bold 👏👏

Hmm.... I don't think I agree with this. Regardless of the pain and the hurt, this journey has been beautiful for both of them. In my opinion, Sai's problem wasn't that Virat is celebrating this journey, but it was rather that there was nothing of that sort to celebrate in the first place. See, Virat and Sai are bound together in a relationship that extends far beyond that of husband and wife. They are friends, family, each other's rocks, support systems first.... their relationship is one of love (even if not in the married sense yet), loyalty, respect, and trust. Leave the labels aside, and none of them will counter this. Because even to Sai, all of these emotions are very real under the umbrella of a zimidari. When she was looking at all of the photos that Virat had hung, she looked pained more than anything else.... her expression portrayed utter heartbreak when Virat said this is US.... this is OUR journey. And to me, that showed that she agreed with him. They have made huge progress, but the issue from Sai's perspective is that how can it be as husband and wife when this marriage is a deal? Regardless of what has happened since after the marriage, Virat remembers their wedding day as the occasion on which he gained the best thing that has ever happened to him... the occasion on which he was united with his life partner. But, Sai remembers that day as the occasion on which she lost her right to be able to love and cherish her husband...the pain was pouring out of her when she said that on their wedding day, this rishta became a forced zimidari with no love or belonging... and at this point, even if consciously or subconsciously, loving Virat is all she wants to do, she has convinced herself that she does not have the permission to be able to do so...

So, I don't think that Sai's outburst yesterday had to do with the journey. It had to do once again with what labels (or lack of labels) were being placed on that journey...

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Hmm...I think this could be the reason he is so hesitant to talk about his past. It intrigues me why he doesn't open up on his past - he keeps the issue drag till it all explodes into the open - like during Harinee birthday.

He is reading the situation completely wrong. He has to rip off the bandage. Tell Sai everything about his past. Allow her to ask as many questions and be honest in answering all those. If she is to be his wife she is entitled to know everything.

I think if they had a normal marriage things may still have sorted out despite Virat's jalebi-giving tendencies. Sai would have cornered him and beaten the crap out of him 😆(metaphorically) - and he would have been forced to come clean. Now, Sai doesn't feel she has the right to question him - so instead she clams up at his jalebis.

Nethraa, we were discussing this last week as well, and I am still not convinced by this 🤣

Every time Sai brings up Pakhi or the past, he seems shocked. After the ring gifting scene, when Sai said there is an entire person in between them, he asked her if she was being serious. He was aggravated. He was on the verge of clearing everything up right there and then, but of course Pakhi was lurking outside of their room so we got to witness that drama instead. Again, in the car scene on the way to the hotel, when Sai brought up Pakhi, even though it was more comical, he got exasperated. He truly does not seem to understand why Sai is so hung up on Pakhi nor their past.... he seems to lack serious awareness due to his inability to look at this marriage from her POV.

Given how his emotions have progressed and how badly he wants Sai to understand him, I truly believe that if he was able to comprehend the nature of the roadblocks in Sai's mind, he would clear them up in an instance. During the aftermath of the pool fight, he kept asking Sai what exactly she had heard... he kept asking her to just tell him so that they can clear things up. To me, he was desperate to tell her whatever she needed to hear in order to move past this. But that opportunity was also lost because of what happened in front of the entire family.... then, when they had both finally calmed down and were talking in their bedroom, Sai asked him if he is committed to Pakhi and he said that he is not committed to anyone. To him, that was enough of an answer to assure Sai that Pakhi is not in his life anymore... because he is unable to see how deeply the vaada and zimidari nonsense has affected her. There was no indication here that he was scared to reveal the truth about the past. The only way for Sai to get these answers is if she herself asks him... she needs to be the one to probe him, and he will respond. But, he will not come to this realization on his own, because he cannot look past his own feelings.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

@red Both Sai and Virat are preoccupied and so focused on their feelings that they fail to see the other's feelings or perspectives. I totally get that. I also agree that falling in love is just the first step and they need to go a long way in understanding each other's perspectives and putting each other before themselves. I will even say that they are allowed to be selfish in their love...

But there is a reason I called him a hypocrite.

Virat has serious problems with conflict and setting boundaries - it is because of this weakness that Pakhi walks all over them. He thinks too much about Samrat and Pakhi's tantrums etc and fails to see its affect on Sai. I'll excuse him this mistake for now - even though it will have repercussions in his marriage which he will have to face.

He only talks in jalebis when Sai confronts him about his past. But that again is a result of his inability to talk directly and his preoccupation with his own feelings. I don't really understand this all the time...but again I'll accept it for argument's sake.

In both these cases, he is being insensitive to Sai.... but then we agree that he is not yet there - where he understands and is considerate to Sai's feelings.

But what about when he lets Pakhi into their room? When he goes to Pakhi's room? When he meets Pakhi alone? When he applies ice on Pakhi's hands? When he allows Pakhi to touch him and he touches Pakhi? In all these instances, neither are his feelings involved nor is there a fear of conflict.

He expects fidelity from Sai - to the point that he gets angry when Sai refuses to drop out of fresher's program. Even Sai is preoccupied with her feelings but she takes care to maintain distance with her colleagues and also to clear her stand about her friendship with Aniket and Ajinkya to Virat. My point is when he expects so much from Sai - why doesn't he extend the same courtesy to her? Maintaining distance with Pakhi is something that is not too hard to do - even for Virat. Why doesn't he do it - he doesn't even realise that his actions are wrong. That's where I see his hypocrisy. This callousness continues to this day - holding Pakhi's hand during Harinee birthday or at the dining table. This is what I say is double standards - because it is not coming out of his weakness or a preoccupation with his emotions. It is coming out of entitlement.

@Bolded: Yes, because to him, his intentions are pure and he cannot look past that. All of these instances that you have described have not been ill-natured on his part. Never once has he even thought about Pakhi in that regard since his marriage with Sai. What makes these actions "wrong" is that they are unfair to Sai, his wife. And again, he is unable to look at this entire mess from Sai's POV. When it comes to his expectations from Sai, that is all his insecurities. I don't think he would be acting this way about her male friends if he knew she felt the same way about him as she does about him. Just look at the difference in which he views Ajinkya now. Before, he couldn't stand the thought of Sai even talking to him, and now he is asking her to buy him a present. Yes, the reason for this is the accident and how close he came to losing her due to his own unacceptable actions... it is unfortunate that that was the trigger required to shake him up from this behavior. But, at the end of the day, he becomes possessive not because of what he expects from Sai, but because of his own fears of losing her and not being enough....with time, this will go away...and in fact, it already has largely due to the severity of the consequences of the Ajinkya kaand. I agree that all of this appears to be hypocritcal on his end, but I think it is a bit more complex than that...

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I am not sure what much to add!

But there was a very important aspect of her dialogue today..She said I begged you to not marry me, to not spoil your life in my miseries.. You see after this whole Virat's expert story on love and Yoga instructors talk, she is convinced that its her who came in between two lovers and she feels that she has destroyed Virat's life by being in it... For her this day is a reminder that he rejected her as a woman ..over another woman and Yoga instructors words enforced it even more..If she was not in picture, she would have let it go to some extent... But like I said, whenever she tries to think on this and she is used to think a lot before the whole Ladakh trip issue, Pakhi or something else related to Pakhi comes into picture...

@bolded: Exactly, Asmi. I mentioned this in my initial response to Neerja's post as well. That dialogue was one of the most powerful ones in the entire episode for me. She is drowning in her own guilt, and Samrat's entrance will only compound that.

Originally posted by: tptwi

@bolded: Exactly, Asmi. I mentioned this in my initial response to Neerja's post as well. That dialogue was one of the most powerful ones in the entire episode for me. She is drowning in her own guilt, and Samrat's entrance will only compound that.

When Samrat decides to give her a divorce, what will Sai want to do ? I dont want them to copy KD entirely when it comes to Rono and KD..Rono was found by Emon holding RK's hand explaining her something..I suppose..

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

When Samrat decides to give her a divorce, what will Sai want to do ? I dont want them to copy KD entirely when it comes to Rono and KD..Rono was found by Emon holding RK's hand explaining her something..I suppose..

KD really is all downhill from here...especially after confession. Vankar needs to step it up and end this copy-paste nonsense.