Why she needs pakhi to attend - Page 5

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Honestly I dont understand the requirement of Pakhi being there or Sai insisting on her coming. That certainly does not mean I feel for Patralekha or feel for her oh so discomfort while she is in a particular situation. Right now the way she makes other uncomfortable, I dont really care about her much.

Coming back to Sai, I always relate to the Sai who while getting gifts for people in the house, clearly said she has got it only for the ones she loves and she did not get it for Kaku , because she loved Kaku as much Kaku loves her back. However I also have to see what made her go there to get her. Knowing Sai if anyone of the members be it Mansi Bua as well is unhappy or want Patralekha there in the party of the house they belong to, she will definitely go to call her. Since the time Virat has told her to make efforts to be the part of the family and to adjust, she has been doing that. She has been trying to do that. She probably thinks Patralekha is not very important to ghar ke bade but Virat as well. And she also knows , she would be taunted during and after her celebrations, for hurting Patralekha for whatsoever reasons..

And yet even after understanding this part of hers, I am not okay with her going to call Patralekha for the party. Not needed.

BTW was this hand holding scene between Pakhi and Virat and Sai going after Pakhi in the originals??

Sai can be quite insistent and stubborn when she wants to have something done - for example, threatening to break a jar if the family doesn't stop the tamasha and have breakfast. So that is a flaw - everybody's allowed to have flaws.

But unlike before, where her intentions were relatable, this recent 'character development' is not something I relate to. While she does not hold onto ego, she is not someone who panders to people's tantrums either.

Honestly speaking I'm not convinced of the 'she doesn't hold grudges' or 'she forgives easily' argument being used here. I can totally understand someone like Sai being more forgiving of people - afterall she has seen such loss and pain. But I cannot buy the argument that after all the harassment that she has been subjected to - from Chavans and Pakhi - she forgives them within hours or days because 'she is not someone who holds grudges'. Nobody in this world is such a saint. I have no problem with Sai eventually deciding to forgive everyone. But what is being shown is either premature & unrealistic or indicative of Stockholm syndrome. If she is trying to please them because she is tired of her battles and longs for acceptance and love, I don't have a problem - as long as they show that such expectations from Chavans will do no good. In fact it will be very good to see that. But since I know it will eventually be about Sai winning the hearts of her abusers through her 'forgiving nature' , I find this narrative problematic.

Also what is with ITV heroines always having to live up to high, almost saintly standards? Will Sai become less righteous if she harbours resentment against her abusers? If MLs can be grey or black, why should FL always be snow-white?

Not an argument...just pondering about a few things...

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Sai can be quite insistent and stubborn when she wants to have something done - for example, threatening to break a jar if the family doesn't stop the tamasha and have breakfast. So that is a flaw - everybody's allowed to have flaws.

But unlike before, where her intentions were relatable, this recent 'character development' is not something I relate to. While she does not hold onto ego, she is not someone who panders to people's tantrums either.

Honestly speaking I'm not convinced of the 'she doesn't hold grudges' or 'she forgives easily' argument being used here. I can totally understand someone like Sai being more forgiving of people - afterall she has seen such loss and pain. But I cannot buy the argument that after all the harassment that she has been subjected to - from Chavans and Pakhi - she forgives them within hours or days because 'she is not someone who holds grudges'. Nobody in this world is such a saint. I have no problem with Sai eventually deciding to forgive everyone. But what is being shown is either premature & unrealistic or indicative of Stockholm syndrome. If she is trying to please them because she is tired of her battles and longs for acceptance and love, I don't have a problem - as long as they show that such expectations from Chavans will do no good. In fact it will be very good to see that. But since I know it will eventually be about Sai winning the hearts of her abusers through her 'forgiving nature' , I find this narrative problematic.

Also what is with ITV heroines always having to live up to high, almost saintly standards? Will Sai become less righteous if she harbours resentment against her abusers? If MLs can be grey or black, why should FL always be snow-white?

Not an argument...just pondering about a few things...

I agree here!!

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

The problem is if Patralekha does not attend a function celebrated in the house, where she is the most prioritized member, Sai would be taunted. SHe would be taunted for hurting her, for celebrating her birthday, for upsetting her. Also for the family, Patralekha's presence in anything they do is of utmost importance, warna unki or favourite bahu ki Beizzatti hoti hai...😆

Sai is gonna blamed by chakrams regardless... Like dhobi late Aaya toh bhi sai Ka mistake... That is how they are.

Wat is worth watching is, wat is gonna be their reaction for the injury of sai. It might be unknowingly, but happened by Vedi.

Sai Hoti toh baval for sure. This is worth watching.

Interesting discussion. I have been noticing this...after she overheard that Vaada conversation, her demeanour towards Virat has changed. She has become almost rude with him, yet she also takes his support for granted.

Secondly, after that saree fiasco she has lost the will to fight with Pakhi. She's trying to please her or placate her. Her sharp retorts towards Pakhi have reduced.

There were a few red flags...her telling Aai that she cannot control her anger. The other day she told Virat she misses classes because of all the constant fights at home.

I think she wants to focus on her studies and is willing to buy peace. Yesterday after giving tea, she said you people cannot enjoy in peace with me around, so I'll go and study.

Aren't these sad comments being made by a 19 year old?

She doesn't want to be the cause of any fights any longer.

Originally posted by: maahi11

nope

Who should we blame ?

Originally posted by: scarlett22

Interesting discussion. I have been noticing this...after she overheard that Vaada conversation, her demeanour towards Virat has changed. She has become almost rude with him, yet she also takes his support for granted.

Secondly, after that saree fiasco she has lost the will to fight with Pakhi. She's trying to please her or placate her. Her sharp retorts towards Pakhi have reduced.

There were a few red flags...her telling Aai that she cannot control her anger. The other day she told Virat she misses classes because of all the constant fights at home.

I think she wants to focus on her studies and is willing to buy peace. Yesterday after giving tea, she said you people cannot enjoy in peace with me around, so I'll go and study.

Aren't these sad comments being made by a 19 year old?

She doesn't want to be the cause of any fights any longer.

Good points.. Yes looks like she has toned down a bit..Also the whole Saree episode was mentally exhausting.. Too much to take for anyone, irrespective of the age. For someone who feels like a refugee at home, its even more exhausting.

I believe the Pakhi pushing Sai was there in KD. But not the hand holding. I think in the other versions, there was already a huge distance between Virat and Pakhi. Here it's been going on ...hamari kismet.

Originally posted by: scarlett22

I believe the Pakhi pushing Sai was there in KD. But not the hand holding. I think in the other versions, there was already a huge distance between Virat and Pakhi. Here it's been going on ...hamari kismet.

Yeah I was specifically asking about the hand holding scene. It looked like they dont hold any kind of discomfort between each other.. It was extremely distasteful . Also it looked like Patralekha relied only because he was so close to her and held her hand. Yet again a wrong thing to do, to the woman who is pretty much clear about her intentions towards you. I am really finding it irritating that these people are normalising this behaviour. Will have to see what are they planning to show Virat do tomorrow. DIstance ka kya bolun..I have pointed it too many times that Virat in all family scenes is mostly physically more close to PP even when he has two ladies on the either side. It actually does not look great considering what equation they share onscreen. He has been shown to be uncomfortable with PP's touch FGS.

Exactly my sentiment!

Isn't it sad that a 19 year old is forced to placate idiotic people in order to buy peace? Isn't it sad that she is so mentally exhausted that she has lost her fighting spirit and her spunk - which was special about her?

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Sai can be quite insistent and stubborn when she wants to have something done - for example, threatening to break a jar if the family doesn't stop the tamasha and have breakfast. So that is a flaw - everybody's allowed to have flaws.

But unlike before, where her intentions were relatable, this recent 'character development' is not something I relate to. While she does not hold onto ego, she is not someone who panders to people's tantrums either.

Honestly speaking I'm not convinced of the 'she doesn't hold grudges' or 'she forgives easily' argument being used here. I can totally understand someone like Sai being more forgiving of people - afterall she has seen such loss and pain. But I cannot buy the argument that after all the harassment that she has been subjected to - from Chavans and Pakhi - she forgives them within hours or days because 'she is not someone who holds grudges'. Nobody in this world is such a saint. I have no problem with Sai eventually deciding to forgive everyone. But what is being shown is either premature & unrealistic or indicative of Stockholm syndrome. If she is trying to please them because she is tired of her battles and longs for acceptance and love, I don't have a problem - as long as they show that such expectations from Chavans will do no good. In fact it will be very good to see that. But since I know it will eventually be about Sai winning the hearts of her abusers through her 'forgiving nature' , I find this narrative problematic.

Also what is with ITV heroines always having to live up to high, almost saintly standards? Will Sai become less righteous if she harbours resentment against her abusers? If MLs can be grey or black, why should FL always be snow-white?

Not an argument...just pondering about a few things...

I dont fully relate to her need to please Pp n trimurti because anyone in Sais place would find it hard to get past their hate for her and all the mean things they have said/done but I've resigned myself to ot because they have to show hum saath saath eventually. but i also don't see it as mahaanta. I think she is genuinely trying to heed virat/Ashwini asvice about making everyone apna. So shes trying to get them to accept her and do the same. But Shes doing it the only way she knows how - so she hasnt changed her core personality- she remains bossy n stubborn. But finally trimurti are showing cracks coz they are acknowledging that behind the jungli mijaaz is a heart of gold. And eventually they will see that Sai's love is also in the form of gussa/stubbornness. Thats just her nature. And It grows on people only over time. So people like her aabaa, UM, aai n virat have all seen past her bossiness and seen her love/care/concern and realized her true nature. They love her back so they see her inner goodness. They find her gussail nature also endearing. Virat looks forward to his daily verbal sparring with baiko. He wants her to mature a bit but he would never want her to become all too calm either. He likes that she has an inner child, finds joy in simple things and is stubborn about things because 90% of the time the goal is good. So Sai's stubbornness, bluntness is both her flaw and her strength. When people get used to it they find it endearing and appreciate her honesty, straightforwardness like virat but others see it only as tantrum. And because of this nature she can go overboard at times but Sai usually catches herself when she does because she is shown to introspect and feel bad even if she doesn't always explicitly apologize. Like she fekt guilty yelling at pp on their first night even though pp deserved it , similarly she felt guilty when in heat of the argument Sai told virat to go to pp's room in an earlier episode....so she does know when she went overboard. And she does her best to fix it when that happens.

But i dont actually like that trimurti are being whitewashed and Sai is being made to care about get accepted by them because they showed trimurti as cold hearted criminals.

I know that over time they will show Sai mellow down too. But Her stubbornness and need to have things her way will gradually get better but not disappear entirely. Sai has always been stubborn even before she tried to get them to accept her. She only caves when virat/aai request her too. She insisted on making bk eat candy floss, she managed to get them to give her ashirwaad for her results and her admission even though they were reluctant, she got them to eat the first rasoi of hers by throwing a challenge and threatening to leave, she got them to eat breakfast by threatening to break jug, she got them to drink chai more recently just by threatening -varna mein pilaaongi, so this "stubbornness" to have her way is very much in keeping with Sai's character atleast. In all her stubbornness eventually no harm has been done. Infact most times, the people who are prey to her obstinacy have to admit that they actually are ok with it in hindsight and even appreciate it. Like bk gang didnt like her methods but actually had a good time in the college function and even endirsed that they would have missed out on a good time if not for Sai's zidd. I'd have found it jarring if Sai had done a u turn and decided to become docile in order to gain acceptance. Here she is atleast doing so in her own style/swag. So small mercies.