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Posted: 4 years ago
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I have not yet watched the episode. But from the wu can figure it that Anokhi rocked once again.

I never wanted Shaurya to accept Aastha because Anokhi says so. And putting it as a condition for marriage is wrong. But then again Anokhi's insecurities have a role to play here. If Shaurya cannot understand Aastha how will he undertsand Anokhi. If Anokhi is faced with a situation like Aastha where she has to choose between her two families, will he be able to support her if he thinks Aastha was wrong? Though she is not realising Shaurya's pain of abandonment. She cannot undertsand how difficult it is for him to get out of the 25 years of conditioning. Instead of asking him to become Aastha's son right away she could have asked him to find out what exactly happened in the past.

I always wanted Aastha and Shaurya relationship to develop when Aastha can prove to Shaurya that she actually loves him, cares for him and go lengths for him without any expectations. Now tomorrow when he sees Aastha fighting for him, it will seem that she is supporting them because Anokhi will make him accept her and not because she cares for his happiness.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: shahsb_26

Firstly, definitely not a post for those who found today's episode to be perfect! ❤️


I enjoyed watching today's episode too, but nothing can beat that episode on Saturday!


So, KV did say in the interview that Anokhi will now 'drive' Shaurya... But when it comes to relationship, it is more important to understand other person's perspective and their reasons rather than forcing one's own perception on each other... Till yesterday it was Shaurya and today it was Anokhi so either way its unfair! If forcing or pushing woman to make decisions of her life is unfair same does apply to another gender!!!


If Anokhi cannot accept being, I did not like her posing this condition to Shaurya of accepting Astha and somewhere I couldn't help but compare it what Devi did! One of those rare episodes where I genuinely felt bad for Shaurya!!! His pleading and begging to get a chance was 💔


I am not saying whatever he did was right! He somewhere got impulsive and tried pushing this decision on her but he also realized that this is not how it will work when it comes to Anokhi... But it cannot be undone nor does he want this to be undone or disregarded...


Anokhi is also kind of forcing him to accept Astha in his life to have her accept this marriage... And somewhere Shaurya has 'proove' his love by trying to by giving place to Astha in his life...

Devi forced him to get engaged to Shagun by asking him to 'proove' his care and respect for her!


Her words should have been enough regarding Astha, and actually she should have let him reflect and realize his follies and take some action rather than putting across this condition. Astha had also once told her that saying sorry just because he is sorry won't be worth it and won't reach her heart.. But here somewhere pushing him to accept his mother to prove love to Anokhi is another level of insanity!!!


And of course they had to show Anokhi's acceptance in lone so that it is known that the marriage isn't forced and acceptable in ITV and its standard😆 but glad she gave it back to him for this act! As much as condition was disappointing...


To make it clear! Problem is Anokhi does not know Shaurya's perspective at all! And her demand hence seems unreasonable to me...

Coming to your point of Anokhi forcing Shaurya to accept Aastha, I never expected this. I had always wanted Anokhi not to interfere between Aastha and Shaurya. I had thought that Shaurya will understand Aastha's decisions when he himself starts facing these emotional blackmails from his BP and BM and when he starts seeing their real nature. At one point I felt Anokhi was talking as if Shaurya had sent his mother out. We know that Shaurya is not the only reason for the strained relationship between him and his mother. Both Aastha and Shaan have failed miserably as parents. Anokhi should also have a talk with Aastha regarding her past and try to understand Shaurya more if she has accepted him as her husband😊Even Shaurya has some insecurities which needs to be understood by Anokhi.

Coming to the initial part of the episode, I understood that Shaurya has not changed at all. He is not regretting his actions😒. Forcing his impulsive decisions on Anokhi. He is ok for everything now because he is madly in love. But what when the bliss of new found love fades away will he still be ok with everything? Using words such as 'allow' and 'permission' shows that he is not treating his wife as his equal. Shaurya has to change so much. Will just accepting Aastha as his mother be enough for Anokhi to believe that Shaurya has changed?

Looks like we have an exciting week ahead. Some interesting Shakhi scenes, Aastha Shaurya scenes and maybe Aahir's chapter is also going to be closed temporarily.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: eternal_soul

I don’t think she is blackmailing him. I think, What she has understood is he is this way bcs of his familty and aastha is facing whatever she is bcs of his family; after anokhi’s face off with Devi. She has understood that it his family who has instilled this soch in him (she said the same to Devi ki now I understand why shaurya thinks the way he does)


Bcs she knows aastha so well, she knows she is exact opposite to sabherwals. Isi liye she thought ki for him to start the change, he needs to first understand aastha.

Also, shaurya forced her to marry him but she is giving him a choice. The choice essentially is that either he has to change his mentality or either he should walk away. It’s just that she has understood that his mentality is tied to aastha, so that’s from where he needs to start. I am not seeing it as a condition. She isn’t binding him to any relation like Devi was. She is infact trying to free him from the web of lies, manipulation and his soch. By giving him this choice, she is putting the ball in his court.

Or maybe I am biased towards anokhi a little lol. Like I watched the episode thinking ki I will support anokhi😆 isi liye ho sakta hai I didn’t find anything wrong in what she said (except the last dialogue but it was kind of coming, it’s itv at the end🥱)


From shaurya’s pov though, as much as I feel bad for him; there was something extreme needed for him to even speak to aastha; to open up to her. This was that extreme. The process will be painful; but he needs to know the truth and he wouldn’t have tried to understand her in any other situation. Anokhi is involved hence I believe he will somewhere keep an open mind while listening to aastha.


Ending was required because it's ITV and she is ITV heroine... But I don't like the fact that they are stressing on name part whereas name was something to be of least consideration for her.. Mein Anokhi hoon.... Rather than being Mrs. Anokhi Shaurya Ssberwal...


Coming to the post, 99.9% time I am biased towards Anokhi over Shaurya... And clearly it's because Shaurya is supposed to be misogynist whom we are supposed to dislike and Anokhi is with chote sher ki badi soch wali woman... Nevertheless had Anokhi hugged Shaurya and accepted this relationship in front of him I guess none would have been happy😆... Her constant rant of mein iss shaadi ko nai maanti is what pushed Shaurya...


She is darling❤️ but it was very rare instance where I did feel bad for Shaurya too, inspite of his reckless act.. Which Anokhi did call out... I feel Anokhi is usually overstepping when it comes to Astha! Astha has multiple times told her she can fight her own battles though Anokhi's fears are understandable... Her pointing out fear of standing alone like Astha is bang on... But her blaming Shaurya for not trying to understand her view or help her is not on her plate in my opinion... She could have criticized his family but that's all.. Astha is generation above him.


I still feel she literally fears Shaurya Saberwal even as a person under various circumstances inspite of loving him... Just take Saturday's episode as an example... When she turned and saw him coming I could sense her fear.. She knows how his anger can rile him up and extent to which he can go... He wasn't any different today either... But one of the best things could have to realize his mistake was to consciously think before talking... Or acting out... Something on those lines rather than Astha...


😆 but yeh serial hai... Kare jo sahi lage writers ko... Anokhi rocked in first 10 mins... Her saying Mrs. Shaurya Saberwal was blah.. Because... Mein Anokhi hoon still stands out to me...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Idiotboxer

I have not yet watched the episode. But from the wu can figure it that Anokhi rocked once again.

I never wanted Shaurya to accept Aastha because Anokhi says so. And putting it as a condition for marriage is wrong. But then again Anokhi's insecurities have a role to play here. If Shaurya cannot understand Aastha how will he undertsand Anokhi. If Anokhi is faced with a situation like Aastha where she has to choose between her two families, will he be able to support her if he thinks Aastha was wrong? Though she is not realising Shaurya's pain of abandonment. She cannot undertsand how difficult it is for him to get out of the 25 years of conditioning. Instead of asking him to become Aastha's son right away she could have asked him to find out what exactly happened in the past.

I always wanted Aastha and Shaurya relationship to develop when Aastha can prove to Shaurya that she actually loves him, cares for him and go lengths for him without any expectations. Now tomorrow when he sees Aastha fighting for him, it will seem that she is supporting them because Anokhi will make him accept her and not because she cares for his happiness.


Anokhi did tell him... To take his own time.. No she isn't pushing him but her blackmail that she won't consider this as marriage till he shows some sign of changes (and that is accepting Astha)...


It's only now that he will start seeing Astha's side when she fights for him because Anokhi said so.... But it's a bad idea on writers part to use this to start off Shaurya and Astha's track... And as you said seeing Astha on his own, her care would have made more sense... And clearly the only reason he is quite in precap is because Anokhi has said so...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Content wise today's episode is good and nicely written.

We'll know how toxic is BM and how flawed is Shaurya emotionally under her upbringing. As an individual is good no doubt but at a deeper level he is an egoist and has this regressive soch about women, thanks to his BM.

Anokhi knows Astha as kind and strong woman. She tried to bring them close earlier but failed because of his anger issues. We as viewers also know that Astha is not a selfish woman, as shaurya thinks. Anokhi now knows that Shaurya hates his mom for being selfish and leaving him. She wants him to understand his mom and sort the differences which will pave way for his self reflection about his soch about career women. This will lead for a change in his personality to be a better person which is for his own good.

What's wrong when some one DRIVES a person for their own good. You cannot call this as controlling a man.

I've been watching the serial from the start, i didn't see shaurya trying to find reason for his parents seperation. He just believed what his BM has told him since his childhood. Even after seeing Anokhi and Astha's bonding he didn't even have a second thought why such a woman who can love an outsider had to leave him. Just like BM he blames his parents for his misery. So someone had to push him in this regard, what's wrong if it's Anokhi. It's Shaurya who is going to be benefitted by this.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I as a viewer was looking forward for astha and shaurya track after seeing him in hospital where he was very emotional for astha and other scene where he saw a mother and son were having good time and he was looking at them with so much pain and sadness in his eyes,,,

Today’s episode is very very good and every dialogue of anokhi is love ❤️ but but what I didn’t like was astha part,, she asked her to be a good son then he is a good son to BM yes for shaurya BM is his mother and we have never seen shaurya talking bad with BM,, but she is asking him to be a good son to the mother who was not with him for 25 years and now suddenly when he is seeing his biological mother he should behave as all good and loving son How is this possible...

This mother and son issue is not that where son is angry with his mother about something and bcoz of that he is not talking and behaving weird,, but the issue here is about 4 year old child who was left alone at that young age, his mother and father both are alive but none of them was available for him whenever he wanted them most,, here the issue is about abandoning by his both parents, shaan was physically there but not emotionally,,

In one of the episode he has told astha ‘kisi ne meri parwah nhi ki’ and i think he is so right today again anokhi didn’t care about his emotions (for astha) (I’m not talking about whole episode only about astha part) and that is why she put this choice that ‘I will accept this marriage if you will be able to accept astha in your life as a mother’ ,,, without trying to understand if shaurya is angry with astha then why he is angry what is the issue... but nah for anokhi when it is astha she can not be wrong 😐

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I did not like her choice of words. You threw her out, you did not support her. Ofcourse she meant his family but it sounded like 5 year old boy was expected to support her mother and then after being abondoned by his parents at age 5 should get a Eureka moment after becoming an adult that maybe his mother was not wrong in leaving him and he should bring her back home. What Anokhi doesn’t understand is that she is as ziddi and dheet as Shaurya if not more. Even after being told several times by Aastha herself that she should not bring her in their relationship, she still brought her in. And that too as an important condition. Her darr about his family is ok and should have been raised but putting this condition that he should reconcile with his mother was not needed. And him doing anything for love is fine but this reconciliation should not be one of those things. This Mother-Son issue should be resolved organically.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: anuprem

Coming to your point of Anokhi forcing Shaurya to accept Aastha, I never expected this. I had always wanted Anokhi not to interfere between Aastha and Shaurya. I had thought that Shaurya will understand Aastha's decisions when he himself starts facing these emotional blackmails from his BP and BM and when he starts seeing their real nature. At one point I felt Anokhi was talking as if Shaurya had sent his mother out. We know that Shaurya is not the only reason for the strained relationship between him and his mother. Both Aastha and Shaan have failed miserably as parents. Anokhi should also have a talk with Aastha regarding her past and try to understand Shaurya more if she has accepted him as her husband😊Even Shaurya has some insecurities which needs to be understood by Anokhi.

Coming to the initial part of the episode, I understood that Shaurya has not changed at all. He is not regretting his actions😒. Forcing his impulsive decisions on Anokhi. He is ok for everything now because he is madly in love. But what when the bliss of new found love fades away will he still be ok with everything? Using words such as 'allow' and 'permission' shows that he is not treating his wife as his equal. Shaurya has to change so much. Will just accepting Aastha as his mother be enough for Anokhi to believe that Shaurya has changed?

Looks like we have an exciting week ahead. Some interesting Shakhi scenes, Aastha Shaurya scenes and maybe Aahir's chapter is also going to be closed temporarily.


@Bold - No... Anokhi said she will accept this as marriage if he presents willingness to change this much... And start with Astha... I am worried that this just destroys organic development between mother and son... I agree it has to start but let that be initiated from Shaurya and not be pushed by Anokhi...


And absolutely Anokhi should have spoken to Astha first as this could also be big change for her😆... Bete ko agar BM ne nikaal diya toh rahega kahan rahega Shaurya Saberwal? Astha ke saath hi na... 😈 dono hi apne apne life ke major decision thopte rehte hai...


Anokhi had hell lot of conditions to put... Ki you will treat Ahir nicely, you will never use word Allow or Permission or something of that sort😵 but Astha being her condition is like so shallow to me..


Why are they closing Ahir's track? 😆 waise acha hi hai... I was bored of him... Shagun ko bhi bye bye bol do...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: shahsb_26


Ending was required because it's ITV and she is ITV heroine... But I don't like the fact that they are stressing on name part whereas name was something to be of least consideration for her.. Mein Anokhi hoon.... Rather than being Mrs. Anokhi Shaurya Ssberwal...


Coming to the post, 99.9% time I am biased towards Anokhi over Shaurya... And clearly it's because Shaurya is supposed to be misogynist whom we are supposed to dislike and Anokhi is with chote sher ki badi soch wali woman... Nevertheless had Anokhi hugged Shaurya and accepted this relationship in front of him I guess none would have been happy😆... Her constant rant of mein iss shaadi ko nai maanti is what pushed Shaurya...


She is darling❤️ but it was very rare instance where I did feel bad for Shaurya too, inspite of his reckless act.. Which Anokhi did call out... I feel Anokhi is usually overstepping when it comes to Astha! Astha has multiple times told her she can fight her own battles though Anokhi's fears are understandable... Her pointing out fear of standing alone like Astha is bang on... But her blaming Shaurya for not trying to understand her view or help her is not on her plate in my opinion... She could have criticized his family but that's all.. Astha is generation above him.


I still feel she literally fears Shaurya Saberwal even as a person under various circumstances inspite of loving him... Just take Saturday's episode as an example... When she turned and saw him coming I could sense her fear.. She knows how his anger can rile him up and extent to which he can go... He wasn't any different today either... But one of the best things could have to realize his mistake was to consciously think before talking... Or acting out... Something on those lines rather than Astha...


😆 but yeh serial hai... Kare jo sahi lage writers ko... Anokhi rocked in first 10 mins... Her saying Mrs. Shaurya Saberwal was blah.. Because... Mein Anokhi hoon still stands out to me...


Main anokhi hoon>>>>>

That one sentence is so powerful. The name Mrs.anokhi Shaurya Sabherwaal can never match up to the power of the name 'Anokhi' even with the sabherwaal status to it. half of them are just bunch of idiots pretending to be intelligent and classy.

And I hope 'anokhi' always stay anokhi.

She is❤️ I love her a lot, but looks like i need to pull myself back bcs who knows when they end up flipping her

Just like shaurya loses all of his braincells when it comes to anokhi, she also loses her braincells when it comes to aastha lol;

I understand what you are saying.

I know its kind of unfair on him, but I don't think she is emotionally blackmailing him or blaming him; she is just wanting him to see from a different perspective. Since, she knows shaurya will never do that, and hopes that maybe if she says it to him, he might consider talking to aastha.

But, yeah; this is a scene where ppl have different interpretations, anokhi starts the discussions whenever she talks about her aastha ma'am lol, these two will seriously go down as the saas- bahu jodi who genuinely loved eo, more than shaurya too.😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: shahsb_26

Firstly, definitely not a post for those who found today's episode to be perfect! ❤️


I enjoyed watching today's episode too, but nothing can beat that episode on Saturday!


So, KV did say in the interview that Anokhi will now 'drive' Shaurya... But when it comes to relationship, it is more important to understand other person's perspective and their reasons rather than forcing one's own perception on each other... Till yesterday it was Shaurya and today it was Anokhi so either way its unfair! If forcing or pushing woman to make decisions of her life is unfair same does apply to another gender!!!


If Anokhi cannot accept being, I did not like her posing this condition to Shaurya of accepting Astha and somewhere I couldn't help but compare it what Devi did! One of those rare episodes where I genuinely felt bad for Shaurya!!! His pleading and begging to get a chance was 💔


I am not saying whatever he did was right! He somewhere got impulsive and tried pushing this decision on her but he also realized that this is not how it will work when it comes to Anokhi... But it cannot be undone nor does he want this to be undone or disregarded...


Anokhi is also kind of forcing him to accept Astha in his life to have her accept this marriage... And somewhere Shaurya has 'proove' his love by trying to by giving place to Astha in his life...

Devi forced him to get engaged to Shagun by asking him to 'proove' his care and respect for her!


Her words should have been enough regarding Astha, and actually she should have let him reflect and realize his follies and take some action rather than putting across this condition. Astha had also once told her that saying sorry just because he is sorry won't be worth it and won't reach her heart.. But here somewhere pushing him to accept his mother to prove love to Anokhi is another level of insanity!!!


And of course they had to show Anokhi's acceptance in lone so that it is known that the marriage isn't forced and acceptable in ITV and its standard😆 but glad she gave it back to him for this act! As much as condition was disappointing...


To make it clear! Problem is Anokhi does not know Shaurya's perspective at all! And her demand hence seems unreasonable to me...

I loved your post,it gave me sense of equality,actually when a particular strata faces adversaries for a long time and sense of empowerment imparts,line between wrong and right blurrs and sense of rightness for the one who did tortured that strata changes in mass opinion,equality word start to be misinterpreted as being given undue advantages to that particular group irrespective of caste,gender,religion who ever endured injustice in past to upgrade their level and boost their confidence and with time that group distort meaning of equality and equates it to those undue advantages or leeways given to them which is not done deal,not good for anybody.

Your post gave me a relief actually,its not becoz I have watched that episode,its becoz I tend to meet very less people who believe in true equality specially being a girl and I seriously meet very less females who can call out a woman wrong when she actually does becoz they don't want to be labelled as weak or hypocrites in our strata for instance in calling out a strong woman wrong as it affects their concept of feminism so yeah she is always right is the go to notion for them and while I believe that a wrong is wrong,it doesn't have any adjective to it in form of gender,religion,race,caste,creed,no it doesn't ,a wrong will always be wrong and to me it appears your post stems from that sense where you believe in equality irrespective of gender and on person basis treating everyone as human devoid of all those adjectives I mentioned earlier.

It made me feel happy,thank you.


It has nothing to do with episode,its just I strolled upon and as I already said you took human emotions in respect and said spade a spade without taking in account of gender.I am not taking any character's side as I don't know much what happened,others would be good to comment on that whether Anokhi is right or wrong in saying so or demanding so👍,I just thought to comment behind the emotion of post that is equality in true sense in a relationship which seriously lack nowadays or maybe I found very less whatever suits as reason.🙂


And I am sorry for interfering and commenting out of the topic.

You can just ignore it,I again repeat it has nothing to do with episode,as I have no idea about today's episode,its just behind the notion where you as a person could question the actions of a character who is prtrayed as woman of metal and strong,respectable,courageous becoz you feel those actoins are not well thought and could be wrong on other's part as other one's action were while filling vermillion amd forcing her into something which she doesn't want.


Regarding Anokhi,I have seen her dialogues of saturday's episode that girl was fire,I have only one thing to say that it is a relief to see a self respectable as well as courageous "in true sense" FL in rotten ITV.🤞

Thats all I have to say.

Thank You.

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