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Posted: 4 years ago
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When they show Sai wash dirty linen in public, i dont support it - but honestly it kinda fits with Sai's personality. She is the "eye for an eye" person. She is immature and she is confrontational. Not tactful. Speaks her mind and sometimes crosses the limit only to feel bad later.

But Virat losing control in his anger more than once and that too only with Sai- that doesn't fully fit with the personality they etched out for him in the initial episodes.

I guess they are trying to show that Sai is closest to him so he can "afford to " let go with her. Theres no pretence. With others even in his anger he treads carefully but with Sai, he doesn't have to/feel the need to because Sai is HIS wife....theres a sense of haq. We often take liberties and hurt the people closest to us much more than others. Same with aai/maushi/shivani too. Out of all the elders in his house he has only bordered on " being rude" with these 3 people. With the others including pp he rebukes them with an almost pretentious politeness. Its artificial/deliberate.

So the more i think about it, more than him kicking her out of the house what will really bother me is if we dont get a scene or more where we see him in solitude struggling with his feelings- being angry but also lets say wanting to look from the balcony and make sure she's ok. Or just sitting on the floor weeping about the drastic turn of events....or speaking to kamal sir's pic like Sai does asking him- why did your daughter and my wife hurt me like this. How could she hide the truth from me. And maybe get an inkling of doubt- kahin Sai ki baat sach toh nahi only to perhaps shoot it down because he is still angry. And then finally when his anger has subsided he starts realizing/re investigating the truth.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Saichintalli

Very nice post about anger and forgiveness..

Frankly first para padke aise laga that I am reading kuch science chapter with all brain parts and stuff... But you are right, person gets blinded when is anger... Now virat is anger + hurt which made things worst.... He do a lot worst today, but when he is out of it, how he reacts will define him as a person... I don't believe in anger brings the real you, because that's only a part of you.... Doing wrong everything pre-planned to target someone or hurting someone is wrong like what Kaku and papi is doing... But what virat is doing is pure out of anger which he is doing without giving in a thought , in order words as you mentioned getting into others words... Which is wrong but that doesn't defines his true self....

I really loved the way you elaborated the forgiveness thing... Yes forgiving makes person bigger... And it's true, if the person cheated in anyway ( either emotionally or physically), if he/she actually realizes their mistake and with genuine love and effort try to win you again, it might take time but the person will get forgiven... Here both Sai and virat are at fault ( let's ignore who is more at fault)... But sai cheated him emotionally by not believing him and virat cheated her by hurting her self-respect... So it's going to be long way... As I mentioned in laksh post if I am in sai place, I would think 100 times to come back because my self respect is in the question but finally I might come back by only for love and at the same I would accept my mistakes too... So I really hope virat and sai can forgive eachother for their mistakes and grow in relationship.... There is a saying broken glass can't get normal again similar to relationship but we can make new Master diy piece from broken glass leaving unnecessary things which might hurt us behind, same way once they got together they can make wonders by developing more truth an respect for eachother with love... And grow as a bigger person



I am not a science student!!! arts zindabaad

but to understand the reaction I had to understand what happens in this state so did some research


waise school main yeh sikhaya tha lekin sar ke upper se gaya aaj samajh aaya 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Svt611



I am not a science student!!! arts zindabaad

but to understand the reaction I had to understand what happens in this state so did some research


waise school main yeh sikhaya tha lekin sar ke upper se gaya aaj samajh aaya 🤣

Muhje haha Tak yaad hai brain Mei 3 parts hothe hai bus.... So we are in same boat ⛵🤣🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Saichintalli

Muhje haha Tak yaad hai brain Mei 3 parts hothe hai bus.... So we are in same boat ⛵🤣🤣


haan i tried to study more on the brain par sar se uppar jaane laga toh maine chod diya.... isiliye sirf emotions part par concentrate kiya 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Svt611


haan i tried to study more on the brain par sar se uppar jaane laga toh maine chod diya.... isiliye sirf emotions part par concentrate kiya 🤣

Yeh sairat Kya Kya karva rahe hai, kabhi brain ke baremei, tho kabhi law & police ke bare Mei or kabhi psychology ke baremei padne ko fans ko majboorkar rahe hai🤣🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I have been a person who has grown over the years from blind anger to stopping myself and re-think when I am starting to feel the anger.


Thats why its important to be surrounded by people who are real well wishers in life, who can help you show the right way of thinking at extreme emotions like anger/ hatred/ love/ depression.


Like when I am upset or angry, talking to people will put things into perspective, say when I use to be super upset with my mom, talking to my sister will put things to new perspective. If my sister supports my mom, I will not snub her for talking from my mom's perspective, because I know she wants the best for both of us.


Say Virat truly considers Pakhi his friend, and he opens to her and Sunny about his love for Sai, Sunny having his best intentions in heart for Virat wants him to confess his feeling, whereas Pakhi having best intention for herself, would have shown Sai in bad picture and clouded his thoughts at that point.


Thats why Virat should pay attention of views of people like Aai, Shivani and Mohit who have good intentions for both Sai and Virat and not inclined to think of whats beneficial for themselves like Kaku/ Pakhi/ Sonali.


Since we love both Virat and Sai, we will get over this incident just like Sai and move on. This should be their lowest point and I don't want CVs to spoil Virat's character any further that this, coz anything worse that this will be physical abuse which no one can ever accept


On separate note, anyone who is in new phase of relationship knows how ugly fights can get, but usually most of us fight in close doors and show united front outside, unlike Sairat who are united behind closed doors but fight in open. They will learn eventually and grow in life.

Also most of us who are in long term relationship also know there are 1-2 incident in our life with our partners which will always remain unresolved, though we have accepted and moved on, which will show its ugly side when least expected, but thats life, adjusting and understanding that love for each other overcomes that ugliness and desire to be with each other.



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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sukri

I have been a person who has grown over the years from blind anger to stopping myself and re-think when I am starting to feel the anger.


Thats why its important to be surrounded by people who are real well wishers in life, who can help you show the right way of thinking at extreme emotions like anger/ hatred/ love/ depression.


Like when I am upset or angry, talking to people will put things into perspective, say when I use to be super upset with my mom, talking to my sister will put things to new perspective. If my sister supports my mom, I will not snub her for talking from my mom's perspective, because I know she wants the best for both of us.


Say Virat truly considers Pakhi his friend, and he opens to her and Sunny about his love for Sai, Sunny having his best intentions in heart for Virat wants him to confess his feeling, whereas Pakhi having best intention for herself, would have shown Sai in bad picture and clouded his thoughts at that point.


Thats why Virat should pay attention of views of people like Aai, Shivani and Mohit who have good intentions for both Sai and Virat and not inclined to think of whats beneficial for themselves like Kaku/ Pakhi/ Sonali.


Since we love both Virat and Sai, we will get over this incident just like Sai and move on. This should be their lowest point and I don't want CVs to spoil Virat's character any further that this, coz anything worse that this will be physical abuse which no one can ever accept


On separate note, anyone who is in new phase of relationship knows how ugly fights can get, but usually most of us fight in close doors and show united front outside, unlike Sairat who are united behind closed doors but fight in open. They will learn eventually and grow in life.

Also most of us who are in long term relationship also know there are 1-2 incident in our life with our partners which will always remain unresolved, though we have accepted and moved on, which will show its ugly side when least expected, but thats life, adjusting and understanding that love for each other overcomes that ugliness and desire to be with each other.



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Couldn’t have said it better myself

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sukri

I have been a person who has grown over the years from blind anger to stopping myself and re-think when I am starting to feel the anger.


Thats why its important to be surrounded by people who are real well wishers in life, who can help you show the right way of thinking at extreme emotions like anger/ hatred/ love/ depression.


Like when I am upset or angry, talking to people will put things into perspective, say when I use to be super upset with my mom, talking to my sister will put things to new perspective. If my sister supports my mom, I will not snub her for talking from my mom's perspective, because I know she wants the best for both of us.


Say Virat truly considers Pakhi his friend, and he opens to her and Sunny about his love for Sai, Sunny having his best intentions in heart for Virat wants him to confess his feeling, whereas Pakhi having best intention for herself, would have shown Sai in bad picture and clouded his thoughts at that point.


Thats why Virat should pay attention of views of people like Aai, Shivani and Mohit who have good intentions for both Sai and Virat and not inclined to think of whats beneficial for themselves like Kaku/ Pakhi/ Sonali.


Since we love both Virat and Sai, we will get over this incident just like Sai and move on. This should be their lowest point and I don't want CVs to spoil Virat's character any further that this, coz anything worse that this will be physical abuse which no one can ever accept


On separate note, anyone who is in new phase of relationship knows how ugly fights can get, but usually most of us fight in close doors and show united front outside, unlike Sairat who are united behind closed doors but fight in open. They will learn eventually and grow in life.

Also most of us who are in long term relationship also know there are 1-2 incident in our life with our partners which will always remain unresolved, though we have accepted and moved on, which will show its ugly side when least expected, but thats life, adjusting and understanding that love for each other overcomes that ugliness and desire to be with each other.



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Adding to this. My personal experience, when I am angry I sometimes also tend to listen to people who validated my thought process , to you know boost my side of things. It’s not the right way but it happened in a weak moment when you WANT to feel entitled to the emotions raging within you. My ex and I had a fight and I just wanted my friends to rant along with me, in that moment I failed to listen to reason. Yes ofcourse after I calm down , I tend to come to my senses and apologise if I am wrong. But when I am angry, reasoning and logic flies of my mind.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Svt611

Disclaimer- This post is not meant to support any character or demean any character. It is solely for the purpose of understanding behaviour psychologically and philosophically. Please don't make this thread a war zone.

I respect everyone's opinions and understand where you come from....

P.S.- Sorry in advance for the long post



Hello,


Okay, so the whole day I spent thinking about what is happening.. I was silently going through all the posts (and then fell asleep, typical me) but anyway, I was thinking of writing this post on how anger overrides a person's ability to rationally think and the mistakes we make in anger.. I also wanted to write about how some people can forgive the mistakes a person has made and accept them back....


Anger and its ability to override rational thinking-

Emotions are a very complex topic, to be honest. Our brain is a marvelous organ capable of many constructive and destructive activities.......

Anger is surely one of them. Anger harms our ability to think straight and it is not just a high ride of emotions but the changes made inside the functioning of the brain.

The cerebral cortex is the thinking part where judgment and logic reside.

The emotional center of the brain is the limbic system, it is located lower in the brain and is considered to be primitive (not developed completely)

When an individual is experiencing anger or fear they are not using their thinking part but the limbic part of the brain

Within the limbic system, we have a small structure called the amygdala, a storehouse for our emotional memories. Basically what causes our fight or flight reaction mode.

So when we get information from outside, it is passed through this little storehouse of memories which decides where to send the data, to the limbic system or the cerebral cortex. If the incoming data triggers enough of an emotional charge then the powerhouse of emotions can override the cortex and send this data to the limbic system, which is our lower part of the brain causing a reaction. so during this event, the amygdala goes into action without much regard for the consequences (since this part is not involved in thinking, judging, or evaluating) this is known as an amygdala hijack.


When the amygdala is hijacked, a flood of hormones is released that cause physical and emotional alarm. This impact can last from several minutes during which the [erson is usually out of control and may say or do things they will regret later when the thinking part of the brain regains its senses. Further, a longer-lasting hormone is released and its impact can last for several hours to several days.


Now, external factors such as the influence of others also affect our ability to think rationally. this is more true when our thinking part of the brain is asleep while our fight or flight mode reaction is stepping in. In that moment of heat, it is usually easy to influence someone against something or someone. That is also a power of hatred. When you despise or hate someone, you try your level best to get everyone against them. Now those individuals riding high on these emotions and powerful feelings barring the logical and thinking abilities are easily influences. This is because a person sees no logic in anger.

Anger also stems from fear, anxiety, shame, hopelessness, and powerlessness. It goes down to childlike behavior when we are not capable of making any sound decisions. Many times our rational and emotional sides of the brain are at war. We are stuck in the tug of war between logic and emotions. This results in impaired judgment. It also stems from our childhood experiences and values as well as what e have noticed our elders do which influences us. We might not be consciously aware of these feelings but subconsciously and unconsciously they do co-exist, which results in a tussle of emotions.

So yes, when a person is angry they do not see logic or any points put forth by those who are speaking logically and it is further instigated when someone else is trying to influence your decision making impairing your judgment completely.

That is why we see so many mistakes made by individuals who would not make those mistakes but are also influenced by others. Studies show that if an individual is angry and if they see someone else angrier on the same topic their reaction becomes three times stronger than before. At this point, the person is riding high on emotions and has forgotten the ability to think straight.


The same holds true for Virat.. he is not thinking from a decision-making point but from his emotions instigated by others. That is why when people are trying to speak logically with him, he is shunning them as well.



Forgiveness

There is nothing wrong in forgiveness. It actually is a human trait of empathy. We are all humans after all. It is actually an exquisite trait.

Forgiving a person does not stem from your ability to be the bigger person, it is also from the ability to let of the situation and truly move on.

See sometimes forgiveness does not mean forgiving the individual but it means forgiving them for your peace of mind.

Every individual is different, there are people who forgive cheating spouses and rebuild a relationship and there are people who forgive crimes such as murder or rape. It honestly depends on the individual.

There is nothing wrong with forgiveness and going back to a cheating spouse if they have truly accepted their mistake. Of course, the relationship will not be the same as before, but if YOU want to work on it and if you feel there is a chance for it to get better then you have to question yourself whether you will be able to move on.

Now, trust is something that is gained. The decision to forgive and let go is what each individual has to go through.

Forgiveness certainly does not mean forgetting.

But if someone does decide to forgive, the time has to be given to them to ease back into and rebuild the trust shared.

By forgiving you are not excusing the behavior, you are not forgetting the behavior.

True, the relationship will never be the same again. These incidents will stay in our minds forever but to heal yourself is something forgiveness is.

This is always dependent on the individual so it cannot be decided.


Forgiving what Virat does is all up to Sai....... It is up to the writers to show a proper redemption and something which will make it feel realistic.





I might speak from a very spiritual belief, to be honest, I believe in Sai Baba and I actively read books about the higher being and becoming one with the higher power. I believe in karma and rebirth until we learn our lessons. Each birth consists of a lesson we choose for ourselves, to deal with that challenge is the goal of our birth. In one birth we may choose to overcome anger, so all our challenges are related to controlling our anger.

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Lessons in life are repeated till we learn our lesson. A simple example- I would lose my temper extremely easily on small issues, and I would make the same mistakes again and again. So one day I decided to try a different strategy for that issue and guess what, it worked. My approach towards handling the situation was wrong and I was not learning the mistake rather was repeating it.



These are just my views! I don't want to hurt anybody nor do I want to criticize anyone for their views. This is what makes the human race beautiful, the ability to be individaulistic.


MUCH LOVE ❤️


Please don't turn this post into a war zone!



Sources-

https://lakesidelink.com/blog/lakeside/how-does-anger-happen-in-the-brain/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/overcoming-destructive-anger/201611/the-power-emotions-override-rational-thought

https://www.truthaboutdeception.com/recovery-and-repair/forgiveness.html

https://www.thehopeline.com/what-forgiveness-is-not-part-2/

beautiful post and beautiful description sorry for late reply just reached home. So loved it what u meant, that’s something a third person will understand from the perceptive, you are right when in extreme anger ones loses the capability of thinking and that’s the case of Virat and to forgive and not dewel much is what sai needs to do,

But there is something which I want from sai to look into herself, she need to curb her impulsiveness

Rest bro bang on post


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