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Posted: 4 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: laksh


@bold the alta incident goes like this.

He returned home and his family told him tbat Sai refused to apply Alta. They all filled his ears asking when has she ever listened to anyone. This is another protest of her.

His mom tried to tell him but he stopped her saying that you always support her even when she is wrong.

Without checking with Sai why she didn't apply Alta, he started to support his family and asked them why did they allow her to go without getting the Alta applied. He said you guys should have ensured she applied it. She can't go everytime against someone. He then asked Karishma to bring her saying I called her. Karishma hesitates to go and for that too, he said tell her that I called her.

His Aai then called Sai who came and asked what happened. She then starts to joke saying, you have reached home , why don't you have something to eat? Have these people already spoken something against me as usual? He would then shout saying stop all this and asks her why she didnt apply alta. She would say who said I didnt. He will then ask have you started to tell lies too and then she will show him her feet and that is when he would calm down.


Please watch the scene once so that you know who is Virat too.

He never even thought of why she would have refused to apply. He just blindly trusted his family and their words. And why should he come to a judgement about why she didnt apply?


Forget allergy, if a person doesn't want to apply too, is it wrong? Virat will say that they should have ensured that she applied Alta? The family used force and apply Alta on her? What does he know that he started to jump to conclusios. What if she did not want to apply Alta and she had not applied? He only calmed down when he saw her feet with Alta, what if not?


What I have described is in English, to see who Virat can be, you have to watch the episode, hear his dialogues and look at his behavior before saying he would have understood her.

I am sorry but supporting someone without knowing how they have actually behaved is not right.


It looks to me as if you are saying that it is unbelievable that Virat would act that way. Sai would have been responsible for that. One cannot judge characters based on their past behavior alone and without knowing what really happened.

Thanks for pointing it out Laksh, I actually wanted to say the same thing.. That behaviour denoted control and lack of trust in Sai. Aai kept saying Sai ki side ki story jaan le..

@bold after this he said agar wo nahi aaye toh use jabardasti laao.. If thats not controlling then what is.. Why can a woman not deny to apply alta because she doesnt like it? WHy there has to be a reason for not applying it.. FOr instance if Sai would have not applied it because she did not like Alta would he be fine? I agrre had he known she is allergic he would not have forced her, but what if she did not want to apply it at all? I don't like nail polish , is it not a reason enough for not forcing me to apply it?

Thats where I say without hearing Sai's side of story his blood starts boiling up, even after clearly knowing how biased his family is when it comes to Sai. Did he try to think even once what could be the reason for her not applying the alta..All he cared about then was usne mana kaise kiya?

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Posted: 4 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: basherz

I have not seen the episode yet so I'm not sure about the backdrop of the dialogue.


But to take the dialogue at face value - take from another POV, here it could mean - she's taking advantage of the freedom (whatever that may be) given to her, its not about owning people. Virat may feel, he has supported her & didn't object her from standing up for herself but she has back-stabbed him by arranging a marriage without his knowledge.


I've heard similar dialogues in no.of families like = usne deyi gayi choot ka faayda utaya (the most I have heard is for kids, when they don't perform well in their studies & parents say, the kid has taken advantage of the freedom given to them or when kids get punished for their mischievous activities).


People are usually angry or pissed off when using these words & most of them at the recv. end don't take it too offensively.


Dialogue could have been different. Instead of Sai ko choot di hai it would have been better, if Virat said maine aaj tak Sai ka jo SAATH diya uska natija hai yeh.

Choot di gayi hai is suitable with parents and their minor kids as it means that freedom is GIVEN to someone and that is what parents GIVE to their minor kids but for adults, they already HAVE their freedom. Using wisely or misusing it depends on individual adult but nobody has to give it to them, neither parents nor husband.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

If he was a controlling husband then we would have seen it in his actions rather than just words. Let's not forget he is the same man who asked her to give back when his family members taunt her.


There can be other meaning, it was a deal marriage and it's still a deal marriage to Sai so as per the terms of the deal Sai was here in CN to finish her education not get involved in the family matters. He might have said in that context


Aap ek cheez notice kar rahi hain choot word ko jitni galat meaning nikali ja rahi khilone word ko utna hi 18 saal ke carpet ke neeche chupaya gaya tha no sai dint meant that but sai meant that only she said pakhi didi ke pati nhi hain isiliye aapko khilona samajh ke khelne ko de diya gaya hain, what sai meant that clearly reached to virat & pakhi.


I with guarantee say that yahi word virat ne sai ko bola hota then he would had been bashed like there is no other day .


Regarding never listen to sai side story & his blood start boiling.


Recently when virat came back from amravati & learned sai was out not once he doubted her intensions or raised his voice.


Infact Sonali tried to instigate him by saying she was out whole night when her husband was out of city .

Still he only thought where can sai go ? If he do controlling or biased why he raised his voice on sai after learning she was absent from d house & really lied.


I know he will shocked when he will learn sai Joshi started lying for pulkit.I know he will react

Edited by Fruitcustard_9 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Thanks for pointing it out Laksh, I actually wanted to say the same thing.. That behaviour denoted control and lack of trust in Sai. Aai kept saying Sai ki side ki story jaan le..

@bold after this he said agar wo nahi aaye toh use jabardasti laao.. If thats not controlling then what is.. Why can a woman not deny to apply alta because she doesnt like it? WHy there has to be a reason for not applying it.. FOr instance if Sai would have not applied it because she did not like Alta would he be fine? I agrre had he known she is allergic he would not have forced her, but what if she did not want to apply it at all? I don't like nail polish , is it not a reason enough for not forcing me to apply it?

Thats where I say without hearing Sai's side of story his blood starts boiling up, even after clearly knowing how biased his family is when it comes to Sai. Did he try to think even once what could be the reason for her not applying the alta..All he cared about then was usne mana kaise kiya?


@bold I had to bring that up because it wouldn't be true if anyone says, that they never thought Virat could do what he is doing right now. I could see it coming, because of how he behaved during certain situationa.

It is not because of KD, because that is how he acts when he turns blind in anger. Doesn't it happen in real life, don't we understand or know that this person is capable of doing something really bad if things don't go wrong or things go against their liking?


It is not about controlling or not, it is about him not even thinking once about Sai's side of the story. He jumped to conclusions without asking her why she had refused to. Also, whatever be the reason, he could have said that if she doesn't want to apply, why make it an issue out of it. Well, he did a lot after that, doesn't mean that he had changed.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

If he was a controlling husband then we would have seen it in his actions rather than just words. Let's not forget he is the same man who asked her to give back when his family members taunt her.


There can be other meaning, it was a deal marriage and it's still a deal marriage to Sai so as per the terms of the deal Sai was here in CN to finish her education not get involved in the family matters. He might have said in that context

I have already given my understanding in the previous page. It did not look or sound harmful to me. But that is true only wrt to the word he had used.


@bold Let's also not forget that he is the same man who had stood quiet many times when his family taunted her right in front of him, when someone questioned her character right in front of him. The same man who had jumped to conclusions before hearing her side of the story.


Even during the time when he had revealed about Pulkit at home with the evidene he had gathered, he kept standing quiet getting emotional and crying with his Tai, when his wife was getting taunted and humiliated. Giving stares aren't enough.

There is nothing to disagree, that he lets his emotions overpower him many times, has no control over it, especially when it is about his family and does things which he shouldn't.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Regressive as hell. It reflects on your mentality. No use saying he was angry and not in senses. It's in periods of stress that people show their true nature.

The was Virat's character behaves- physically abusing Sai by injuring her hand, denying her food, etc These are signs of a really problematic male. These scenes are not okay. Virat's character is good otherwise but things like this spoils it for me. Add such things for drama does irreparable damage.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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If Virat expected he should have restricted Sai from involving in family matters ,he should have also stopped his family members from making her do household chores since that also is a family matter. He asked her to do the work alongside studies and she did. In that process definitely she tend to interact with his family members and respond to their problems ( Of Shivani,Devi )

More than his said word that is being discussed,I am disturbed by his action of not letting Sai inside.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltelidevara

If Virat expected he should have restricted Sai from involving in family matters ,he should have also stopped his family members from making her do household chores since that also is a family matter. He asked her to do the work alongside studies and she did. In that process definitely she tend to interact with his family members and respond to their problems ( Of Shivani,Devi )

More than his said word that is being discussed,I am disturbed by his action of not letting Sai inside.

ITV still likes showing its the woman's job to work in the kitchen, to serve the men who can't even get a glass of water from the kitchen. In 2021. They should really change their content. 90's dramas were more progressive I swear.

Virat who didn't officially commit to Sai has no qualms with her working in the kitchen- an 18 year old girl who just lost her parent and who is having the burden of studies.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I don't understand why this rule is on a man to protect his wife honour but wife can easily move away by humilating or taunt him


If I m right in marriage not only bride groom but bride to take a vow always care for d respect of her husband .


Maybe ye shaadi deal marriage hain or may be sai 18 yrs old so don't cared to listen d marriage vow, I can say that's why pulkit's kasam was more important than her marriage why coz she is 18 & her father died.


Maybe as virat put forward d deal so it's only his responsibilities to stand for sai .


I don't why there is a big issue of sai working in kitchen & what it has to do with her age.


Virat never asked her to bring water for him or food.

Edited by Fruitcustard_9 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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I cannot see any reason why Virat's mistake is not seen or accepted. I do not find it even necessary for us to tell that he is wrong, justifying him is out of question. He is wrong, period.


Also, everytime Virat makes a mistake, rather than condemning his actions, why should Sai's mistakes be brought into picture? It is is beyond my comprehension now.


His behavior could be as a result of her action. I have always been saying that there is no point in her crying, because she will have to face its consequences.

But if this is the consequence, I don't think there should be a single person who should be defending his actions or who should be using her action as a defense to his reaction.


Sai being wrong doesn't make Virat right especially when he is acting inhuman. Let's just face it, not letting someone enter the house, is definitely not acceptable.


Let's just accept he is wrong and there is nothing wrong in accepting one is wrong. If we as audience cannot accept the mistake of our favourite characters, how can we expect anything especially from a fictional character.


Virat is not at all being right, clouded by emotions, enraged and is acting regressive. Period.

Edited by laksh - 4 years ago

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