The neighbour incident, for or against? - Page 3

She is an orphan now, all alone, pushed outside home, after her husband ended their relationship and told her she is never getting back in the house. (whatever be the reason, two wrongs don't make a right, but both of them were wrong). She literally has no where to go.

If she really wanted to hurt Virat, she could have gone to cops and fight for her right as wife. Deal/ No deal, she is legally wedded wife, aise hi koi use ghar se bahar nahi nikal sakta. But her intention will not be to insult Virat, but only show the truth of his family seniors and Pakhi to him and also not let Devi back in the house after she leaves.

One thing we need to note is that Virat-Sai have always had their arguments in public and they don't make it as big a deal as we do in the Forum.

She will challenge him to find proof that Pulkit is married and if he does, she will apologize and he accepts the challenge and goes to find proofs.

Also let’s not go by other versions, even if they do show that let’s see why they are showing it to this extreme.

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

You are on a different tangent and trying to portray as if I am supporting abuse on women . I guess there is a difference between jeans and mental abuse . Even if your spouse has a past no one will discuss and talk in-front of neighbors. By the way , she was talking about his present not his past . We all know what his present feelings are unless someone wants to ignore for their convenience. I have said what all I wanted to say and there is no point in discussing so here is my last response . If you think there is no point in discussing then you can ignore my post and not quote and then play the victim card

Throwing your wife at night out of the house is physical and mental abuse both..

And as i said earlier , you and I are no one to decide what one should wear or not!!!

Chavans did not think twice before making a scene at the venue of marriage where many invitees are there. They themseves exposed their family issue before the public. So what wrong is there if Sai retorted the same way? They deserve it.

I very much want her to expose Pakhi’s pyari Dosti with Virat. Definitely I will enjoy the scene.

About Virat ,I don’t know since I am against his act of throwing Sai out. Just a while ago he was about to confess love and here he is , depriving her of her right to live in his house. I am upset.

Originally posted by: sukri

Sathya (Pakhi) will hold Vikram's hand in front of entire society people after speaking against Saranya (Sai) and then ask him to come insider with her. BTW even at that point even Vikram doesn't shrug it off and lets her hold it .

Even then Saranya doesn't say anything about Vikram. It was all about Sathya (Pakhi) only.

So if Saranya will not point that out, who will? Family elders ne allow kiya hain, thats why she could go that far right. So she can definitely point that out in front of society.

What she says is look at her, holding my husband's hand in front of everyone. This woman is always trying to come close to my husband, coming to our room with some bahana or other and not worrying about her own husband.

Imagine the audacity of Sathya, no one she does she get away with talking and instigating Vikram against Saranya in front of the family, she was trying to take him in as if its her own husband.

Where is Vikram's character being questioned here? She is talking only about Sathaya's behavior.

When she says look she is holding my husband’s hand . Will the neighbors not think Vikram is ok with that and there must be something brewing between them . Do these neighbors know the history or will they care to know the full truth before spreading the rumors .

We are all on the same page that both Sai and Virat have made mistakes . So tomorrow to get even with Sai if Virat goes and confronts Sai and Pulkit in front of whole college . Will we be ok with him doing it ?

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

Sorry, I couldn't reply immediately, I needed time to reply to this. My replies in green.

He doesn’t suspects Pulkit because his family blamed him or his friend accused Pulkit . When the letter came he didn’t jump to conclusion . He started believing only after his investigation. Yes , he might not have done a good job of investigating but he believes in proofs not his family or his friend . Despite everything he is blamed to be biased .

You know my opinions about these, I have always defended him when he was questioned to act biased especially in this track. I am not blaming him for this at all. Ofcourse, he should have done a better investigation in first place.

Let’s go back , Virat agreed to reinvestigation and trusted Sai not his friend Pakhi’s reasoning but if he suddenly finds his wife hatching a plan behind his back how fair it is to expect him to keep his cool and not react but listen to her side of story patiently.

I don't know when did I claim it is unfair.

He is accused of trusting his friend blindly when in reality he never believed his friend when she called him to instigate him against Pulkit . If it was so easy for Pakhi to influence him she would’ve have written the letter .

I think you are mistaken. The post was about turning Sai out of the house and her calling the neighbours.

"I don't expect him to trust her blindly, but I also think it would only be fair that he doesn't trust his family or his friend too blindly."

You spoke about him trusting Sai blindly right after this wedding? Didn't you say only if she reveals all information? I am talking in this context. The above statement is to say that in the upcoming showdown, I am expecting that he doesn't trust his friend or his family blindly too. My question to you about what is your take was to ask you, what will you say if he trusts them even once blindly? We will have to wait and watch.

Sympathizing with Virat doesn’t mean we are turning blind eye to her pains . I remember many post where we have discussed her share of pain and taunts she face daily in CN but I hardly see anyone acknowledge his pain , his contribution , his patience in dealing with her impulsiveness .

The reason I brought that sympathy in first place was when you had mentioned he was under stress and is made to act referee. If it was not for his mad family, not sure why would Sai react that way and why will Virat be acting as a referee. She acts well with so many people in his house, can we blame her entirely?

Just like how we expect Virat cannot be blamed for the act of his family or friend, I am expecting that people do not think her to be adding to his stress. She is not the root of the problem. Yes, she is impulsive, moofat, but sometimes, to tell the truth, her nature is what is helping her survive amongst such people. Even if I do not like how she never backs down from an argument or fight, the truth is even if she had backed down, they would have made it more miserable.

I don't understand how only he can be empathised and not her? Even if you say her pain was discussed, I don't feel like the actual pain is felt by anyone when she is being judged. If you talk about her fighting disrespectfully with Virat, I am with you but as soon as you say he is facing issues because of her or his stress is because of her, I am sorry I am not with you.

She can be tactful, has to learn to not to continue to fight, but just because she is not doing it, one can tell that Virat is put into stress by her? What about her stress? Are you saying that a person who fights is not under stress and only the person who is acting as a referee is under or will be in more stress? I am sorry, that is not true.

His emotions, his kind heartedness cannot make him a victim and her fierce and argumentative nature cannot make her a trouble in his life.

I have hardly made posts or remember discussing on her pain, I have contributed more about her as a character, about her feelings, her behavior or her in their relationship. Even if I do or have done, I have always spoken for Virat, his pain and his contribution as well. I started to participate more actively in the discussions defending Virat because I felt he was bashed for no reason and he wasn't understood right.

Does talking about Virat’s stress mean Sai is not stressed. There was an interview from an senior police officer who was talking how stressful is their job and how important it is to have a peaceful environment at home .

Looks like, because time and again, him, his stress, his pain, his contribution is all I see and it is always made to look as if he is the victim. About the interview, are you telling me that you wouldn't think Virat is in stres if Virat wasn't a police officer? Sai, as a student has no stress? The girl was not even allowed to attend her first day of college, if Virat did not do what he did that day or any other day, I wouldn't be supporting him. But just because he helped her, doesn't mean we ignore her pain or the misery she is facing. It sometimes looks like his goodness is stealing away the attention from her misery.

Is he not adjusting with her ?

He is and he should, but why is it made a big deal and showed as if he is doing a favour? He is also adjusting because he knows about his family and they are playing a big role in how she is behaving. Why is that we see her acting nice with him when it is just the two of them and when there are no external factors involved?

Having said that, I am not saying or expecting that they live as a nuclear family. The reason I am bringing it up is to say that him adjusting shouldn't make one think he is a victim.

It’s stressful to come back after a long day dealing with all kinds of problems he faces at work and expected to resolve the issue at home . I never compared their stress levels but he is not leading a jolly life after the marriage and Sai is not the only one suffering is what I am trying to say

I read this after I wrote all the above ones. If you are trying to say that she is not the only one suffering, I too know that. The reason I said that she can get out of this made family is because she has entered this family and it is his family who he was anyway living with. They don't create issues for him, but create issues for her. And when the girl reacts in a way she need not be reacting, we should not be just looking at how she is reacting and start feeling sorry for him to be acting as a referee.

Instead when she reacts that way, we should always remember that she is reacting (in a wrong way) to such a mad family and they are no one else but his family. Why does the sympathy go to him because she is reacting in a wrong way? Who else is supposed to act as a referee? It is his family, his wife, or his responsibility whom he has brought to his house. Would you say the same if he had to fight for his mom against his Dad? He has hardly done that and only because Sai acts impulsively or rebelliously, one dislikes her, feel he is put into stress by her? I am sorry but that is being too harsh on a girl who is subjected to all kinds of misery in this mad house.

She had a much jolly life with her aaba except for the Jagtap issue. Why should someone only feel and see that he is not having a jolly life? Why is not one looking at how her life used to be and how it is now? To tell you honestly, I never even thought of this jolly part untio you raised that he is not having one. Why should we feel sorry for one character so much that we start to dislike the other character considering her to be a reason for this? I am sorry, I am very upset with this.

In this case , he didn’t trust anyone blindly not even his family . If he is going to blast her today it’s only because of Sai keeping him in dark and expecting him to understand without sharing any info

As I have mentioned already, I am talking about him trusting, if he does in the upcoming episodes. I generally never talk about something that has still not aired, this whole neigbour topic is about upcoming, hence I said that.

I have no issues if he scolds her because she is at fault.

Same applies to Virat as well . He doesn’t have to deal with toxicity and someone’s mood swings and indifference ..

This same applies to Virat as well, is a reply to a statement that was a response to your statement that he will lead a stress free life.

Exactly my problem, Sai is toxic? Why would someone even think of her as a toxic person? Her moodswings and indifference is his doing. It is a result of him bringing up his friend and friendship jaap. It is because of how differently he reacts to her. Pakhi is let go of multiple times with just a few questions and she will be berated and shouted at? She will be called anything? One has to observe when the indifference stems in her.

The reason he shout at her or react differently with her could be because he is being himself with her, finds no necessity to stop himself or because he feels he has rights on her, but she is not aware of what he thinks about her, she is not aware of his feelings for her, how is she supposed to understand the difference in behavior? It will look as if he is biased to her. As soon as he expects her to understand Pakhi or act nice with Pakhi or expect her to make friendship with Pakhi, she starts to act indifferent or gets mood swings. And why should one blame her for this? Isn't it natural? Him growing on her due to disappointment or because she is not acknowledging her actions is natural, just her disappointment is not?

He doesn’t have to get humiliated in public for some misunderstanding

I am also not for it and have voted against it.

my response in black

Just replying since I needed time to reply to it. My reply in green.

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

I am not supporting Pakhi or Chavans here . It’s about Virat and only Virat . If we think logically, what was the intention of creating a scene ? Was it to help Devi or herself or punish the accusers or was it plain revenge . Does it help anyone if she makes an issue infront of neighbors? No , it will only cause Virat and Sai also humiliation because neighbors will only gossip and spread rumors . If she had filed a case I would have wholeheartedly supported her because the intention is right and the accusers will be punished even if Virat has to face humiliation because of his family

When she says look she is holding my husband’s hand . Will the neighbors not think Vikram is ok with that and there must be something brewing between them . Do these neighbors know the history or will they care to know the full truth before spreading the rumors .

We are all on the same page that both Sai and Virat have made mistakes . So tomorrow to get even with Sai if Virat goes and confronts Sai and Pulkit in front of whole college . Will we be ok with him doing it ?

In Tamil, though it looks like revenge against Kaku, she first tells people all about Devi and tells them that they are planning to drag her back home today, I won't be here from today, but you guys have to step in and help bua when she comes back.

Also this is kind of what she says at night to kaku in Tamil:

Aapne aaj tak kamzoor pe waar kiya hain hamesha (like aai, bua, Dileep, Sridevi, Priya, prof etc)

Aapko kya lagtha hain aap jinta maaroge, log bus maar khata rahega, palat ke vaar nahi karega?

Aise log bhi hai jo palat ke javab de sakte hain, yeh aapko pata chalna chahiye na.

Thats why I am still waiting here.

Yeh jo vaar hai, woh aap log zindagi bhar nahi boolenge.

Thats why I said the build up to that event is important. In Tamil I think it came well in flow and how they treat her.

If Sai is provoked then she will not hesitate to speak in front of neighbors too... i dont think she will do it without provocation. But Sai knows the only thing that hurts CN is a blow to their fake pride/ego. They are so concerned ki" log kya kahenge" . Washing dirty linen in public is not nice and makes things ugly. but if bk gang provoke her she wont stay chill.

in this situation virat is angry that Sai acted impulsively without telling him. But if she spoke the truth and Virat believed her, he would turn against his family. So CN gang will turn the situation against her by speaking rubbish. But depending on how low they stoop, it may be ok for Sai to give it back..sai does kinda believe in an eye for eye. She gives it back especially when she knows she is right. In this case her actions arent right, but her principles are. And her actions were a result of bk gang pulling criminal stunts. So when she believes she is right, she wont back off. She does know that virats hurt/anger is justified but thats coz virat does not know the full truth like she does. She is young/impulsive enough that she may not necessarily walk away. She believes that being silent when you are wrongly accused is wrong. So if CN gang accuse her of false things, she will not take it lying down. Honestly i dont think I'll mind it if bk gang false pride is shattered in front of the world. They deserve it. I'm sure Its not going to be an attack on virat if she does drama in front of neighbors coz Sai knows this devkit situation is not Virats fault. So it'll only be an attack on CN gang.

On the other hand maybe she will choose to walk away if they stoop really low and just decide she doesn't care to give anyone any further explanations. Dunno how it'll turn out. But either way i can't wait bk, pp to face the music soon. That'll be worth watching.

As far as the pp-virat situation is concerned, Sai has been very direct in her private conversation with virat about what she thinks but virat instead of clarifying went into further denial mode. She "accused" virat pf loving pp only in private and for good reason. She gave him the opportunity to clarify his stance. But virat didnt spend enough time clarifying what he feels for pp. As audience we can see that he doesn't have any love for pp but Sai will get mixed signals until he tells her clearly. And when she called virat-pp out in front of family it was not an attack on virats character but pp and bk's. She wanted to know why both of them had problem with virat taking his wife to ladakh but no problem about the idea of pp-virat going together. In public sai has not accused virat of having any illicit relationship with pp. She just called out the double standards. As much as it made me uncomfortable to watch her publicly speak about the issue, i also feel that Sai had been pushed to all limits of tolerance which caused her to lash out. Which wife will tolerate ex lovers constant presence, interference and taanebaazi. And all members of the house encouraging her behavior. Pp has repeatedly rubbed in her face her "dosti" with virat. And even if shaadi is "deal" , its highly disrespectful to Si what pp does on daily basis.

With time Sai will mellow down amd figure out the art of walking away gracefully instead of responding to every allegation hurled at her. Right now shes far too idealistic and cannot stay silent. She is too hot headed as a personality but with age and experience she will become calmer and wiser too.

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

When she says look she is holding my husband’s hand . Will the neighbors not think Vikram is ok with that and there must be something brewing between them . Do these neighbors know the history or will they care to know the full truth before spreading the rumors .

If Saranya's friend comes and holds her hand and pulls her away with him, will Vikram not argue with the guy irrespective of where they are?

If he does, does it mean he is questioning Saranya's character?

Originally posted by: laksh

Just replying since I needed time to reply to it. My reply in green.

1. Will I support him if he trust his family blindly . No , I won’t and my old posts are the proof of that. I didn’t support him in the Alta case or when he shouted at her in the morning due to Amay’s incident but in Pulkit case he is not supporting her based on the proofs he gathered and unless Sai gives him a good reason he won’t trust her.

2. Am I blaming Sai for his stress . No , I am blame his family but I am highlighting the fact that his life has changed for worse after marriage due to his family . I am trying to say his family not only taunts Sai but also taunt s him . I won’t blame him if his family creates issues for Sai . He tries his best to support her and protect her . He might have made mistakes but there are less in comparison to the amount of support he has given her .

3. Am I turning blind eye to Sai’s pain ? No , I am not but the post was to share Virat’s side of story .

4. Do I want Sairat to separate. Do I need to answer that ? I have been on this forum long enough for people to know what I feel about Sairat . It was a reaction to the statement she can walk off .

5. Do i support creating a scene infront of neighbors or him throwing her out . No , I don’t support both of them and two wrongs never make a right . I will criticize both of them for their behavior.