Virat is manipulating here or lying - Page 11

Originally posted by: Sera-high123

Why doesn't he understand if he gives us Sairat romance he will be hailed and thanked by us so many times. We will send him thank you notes. 😒😒

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I cant bear these kind of shows.. There was one more show long back..the ad itself was so despicable some Sajan ghar or something where he is married to two ladies one modern ..one gawaar.. and both ladies are equally dedicated.. I hated those Govinda's ek taraf gharwali ek taraf baharwali kind of movies.. Intolerable..

Originally posted by: Svt611

aap ki yaad hume sata rahi hai!!

I have so much catching up to do... so many interesting topics were made in the last two days.

Regarding this particular, "tumne jo abhi kaha wo jhoot tha" -- I think the scene had some dialogues that were edited which left it a bit unconnected (even Sai's aapki abhi ye harkat galat thi)... but to take it at face value, I agree with those who say that he was saying it only for her insinuation that he is having an affair with Patralekha in the name of 'dosti'... That part about dosti ki aad mein and how he has all the love for Vahini which he doesn't reveal and she cannot contain it within her. In his mind, he does not see Vahini's actions as an 'infidel kind of love' either -- yes we can call him blind but the fact is that he thinks Vahini is just being a friend and "pyaar toh doston ke beech bhi hota hai" wala pyaar it is. But Sai can see the reality and she's speaking from what she can see. To his mind, Sai is "misunderstanding" his pyaar-osti and Vahini's concern as "affair" in the name of dosti. As he spoke later of his "sach" to Vahini and his "sach" to Sai and how her "sach" and his "sach" can be two different things -- so his jhooth bola hai was only in that context.

He does not deny the other things she says or asks him about his commitment to some other woman but it stings him that Sai has not understood his changed feelings for her -- that there is no deal anymore (there never was to begin with), and that she does not reciprocate his 'love' for her. At that moment, he was totally taken aback by Sai's sudden outburst regarding the deal marriage, akeli hoon and the Ladakh trip. The "opposite side" comment was a trigger to his insecurity because anything that she does or says to show him the 'distance' between them hits him really hard. So, he mostly heard her outburst silently because he did not want to answer in the heat of the moment. It was a subject that needed to be addressed in a calmer time and when he's prepared for the entire confrontation, cross-examination by Sai because Sai will put him through a complete trial on that vaada and deal aspect before assuring herself why his feelings have changed. (my pov)

And, thank you for the compliment but Chavan Saheb pe Ph.D. karna is impossible 😆 Itni jalebiyaan khaa ke diabetes induced stroke na aa jaaye. Main immature hi theek hoon😆

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

oh yes I remember that show . I just saw few clips and the ML was staying married to both the women and his wives had no problem with it . Infact they showed all three as one family ..disgusting is the word that comes to my mind thinking about those shows .

Wow! Aise bhi shows bane hain?! 🤣

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

And, thank you for the compliment but Chavan Saheb pe Ph.D. karna is impossible 😆 Itni jalebiyaan khaa ke diabetes induced stroke na aa jaaye. Main immature hi theek hoon😆

🤣🤣🤣

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

I have so much catching up to do... so many interesting topics were made in the last two days.

Regarding this particular, "tumne jo abhi kaha wo jhoot tha" -- I think the scene had some dialogues that were edited which left it a bit unconnected (even Sai's aapki abhi ye harkat galat thi)... but to take it at face value, I agree with those who say that he was saying it only for her insinuation that he is having an affair with Patralekha in the name of 'dosti'... That part about dosti ki aad mein and how he has all the love for Vahini which he doesn't reveal and she cannot contain it within her. In his mind, he does not see Vahini's actions as an 'infidel kind of love' either -- yes we can call him blind but the fact is that he thinks Vahini is just being a friend and "pyaar toh doston ke beech bhi hota hai" wala pyaar it is. But Sai can see the reality and she's speaking from what she can see. To his mind, Sai is "misunderstanding" his pyaar-osti and Vahini's concern as "affair" in the name of dosti. As he spoke later of his "sach" to Vahini and his "sach" to Sai and how her "sach" and his "sach" can be two different things -- so his jhooth bola hai was only in that context.

He does not deny the other things she says or asks him about his commitment to some other woman but it stings him that Sai has not understood his changed feelings for her -- that there is no deal anymore (there never was to begin with), and that she does not reciprocate his 'love' for her. At that moment, he was totally taken aback by Sai's sudden outburst regarding the deal marriage, akeli hoon and the Ladakh trip. The "opposite side" comment was a trigger to his insecurity because anything that she does or says to show him the 'distance' between them hits him really hard. So, he mostly heard her outburst silently because he did not want to answer in the heat of the moment. It was a subject that needed to be addressed in a calmer time and when he's prepared for the entire confrontation, cross-examination by Sai because Sai will put him through a complete trial on that vaada and deal aspect before assuring herself why his feelings have changed. (my pov)

And, thank you for the compliment but Chavan Saheb pe Ph.D. karna is impossible 😆 Itni jalebiyaan khaa ke diabetes induced stroke na aa jaaye. Main immature hi theek hoon😆

Janki I understand that was not the right time to talk about Pakhi and his relationship with her...The past and current status...that too knowing Virat who has confrontation/conflict phobia.. But then he did understand Sai's concerns right.. He did understand Sai's feelings about the two of them.. Still he did not chose to address them the next day and tried to say dosti kyu nahi karti Pakhi se.. when he said to Pakhi tumhara sach main nahi jaanta he did not eradicate the probability of what Sai said about Pakhi being true right..And he said it when he saw the expecting eyes of Pakhi..So somewhere he does know Pakhi still loves him..and yet gives her a benefit of doubt that she would be fine.. Probably because he attributes her still sticking to him to her loneliness and believes once Samrat will be back she would be over him just like he was over her after being with Sai..SO being a good man and a family man he doesnt really want to go that way to reprimand Pakhi as it spoils the equation..turns it ugly and in joint family one cant few people being acrimonious to each other..and also his bhabhi's character being questioned in someway..

.She did say to Sai main shadidhuda hun ..aisa kuch bhi mat bolo jisse mere charitra par daag lage.. So Virat actually believes in this.. Pakhi just shows off..

Anyway coming back to the scene.. do you think Virat knows Pakhi is in love with him and ignoring it..And why did he not speak to Sai about not loving Pakhi anymore.. No NO..I am not in favour of him going and telling her this marriage is no more a deal.. that could be kept for later..when he has understood his and her feelings thoroughly (he failed in nibba nibbi love case), but at least he can tell her that there is no such thing between him and Sai.. Clear his stance..so that she doesn't dare question his character.. "Dosti k aad mei chipna" is nothing but questioning his character...Also I did not understand his stance on "gharwale using him for keeping Patralekha involved usko behlaane k liye istemaal karte hain"..I guess he did not believe that part of it in that scene.... but during Shivratri he was with Sai when she said "agar patralekha hoti meri jagah toh aap kehte dost hai dost hai..ek dusre ko khana hi khila rahe hai"..he did that "exactly wala" expression.. So i am confused there also.... Sai I can at least understand..Virat keeps confusing me.. 😔

Originally posted by: jane_austen

I don't understand why he wanted Pakhi to guide Sai. Pakhi being the 'matured' bahu could help smooth Sai's raw edges (although it was extremely insensitive of him to do so). I am kinda confused about this one.

I once thought that by asking Pakhi to guide Sai, he was getting (forcing actually) Pakhi to accept their respective roles (she - Samrat's wife ; he - with a 'zimmedari' wali wife). But even that I'm not sure.

Janki, this is another another thing that confuses me. @asmi_joy and myself were discussing it in this thread, but apart from guess-work, we could not find any logical reason for Virat's action.

Originally posted by: jane_austen

Janki, this is another another thing that confuses me. @asmi_joy and myself were discussing it in this thread, but apart from guess-work, we could not find any logical reason for Virat's action.

My perspective on this is that he never married Sai with the intention of calling off the wedding. The "tum shaadi chodhkar chali jaana" was his candy to her because he thought she did not want to marry him and he wanted to console her immediately that he's not going to force her to stay with him once she's independent. She took it as him saying, "You go after five years" because he didn't spashtly add, "agar tum chaho to chali jaana"... Also, there was a reason why he did not invite the entire clan for the wedding because he knew they would disapprove. He must have not expected life to be so difficult for Sai from the family's end but he knew it would not be smooth -- also because, from his perspective, Sai is a loose canon, impolite and argumentative. The situation between her and his disapproving family would be untenable if Sai did not have a friend in that house. To him, Vahini was the Mallika-e-Maturity, who could take Sai under her wings and support her, cover up for her mistakes and also tell her the 'proper ways' to behave like a bahu at times. Yes, we all want to know why he wanted her to be the bahu immediately but he did-- right from the gruh pravesh, she was the "bahu" of the family and he wanted her to be accepted with all respect immediately. Patralekha, by the virtue of being a "bahu" and of the same generation (and largely accepted by the family), would be able to "guide" her better and also stand to defend Sai to the elders when needed. It was his completely misplaced idea of how 'mature' Vahini is in this matter and that she would actually do it (she would never). So Sai could see Vahini's discomfort but not Virat. Also, Sai herself was uncomfortable with the idea because she knew who Patralekha was in the equation between the deal husband-wife. But Virat came from a very "ignorant" (say insensitive) frame of mind, where he assumed that the two women were also being as practical about the arrangement between them as he was. It's a very male thing too -- they don't always understand a woman's emotions when they feel that it is "sorted" through conversations and they have conveyed their point.

Of course, it would have meant they would befriend each other and reduce his need to search for his migraine wala balm

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

My perspective on this is that he never married Sai with the intention of calling off the wedding. The "tum shaadi chodhkar chali jaana" was his candy to her because he thought she did not want to marry him and he wanted to console her immediately that he's not going to force her to stay with him once she's independent. She took it as him saying, "You go after five years" because he didn't spashtly add, "agar tum chaho to chali jaana"... Also, there was a reason why he did not invite the entire clan for the wedding because he knew they would disapprove. He must have not expected life to be so difficult for Sai from the family's end but he knew it would not be smooth -- also because, from his perspective, Sai is a loose canon, impolite and argumentative. The situation between her and his disapproving family would be untenable if Sai did not have a friend in that house. To him, Vahini was the Mallika-e-Maturity, who could take Sai under her wings and support her, cover up for her mistakes and also tell her the 'proper ways' to behave like a bahu at times. Yes, we all want to know why he wanted her to be the bahu immediately but he did-- right from the gruh pravesh, she was the "bahu" of the family and he wanted her to be accepted with all respect immediately. Patralekha, by the virtue of being a "bahu" and of the same generation (and largely accepted by the family), would be able to "guide" her better and also stand to defend Sai to the elders when needed. It was his completely misplaced idea of how 'mature' Vahini is in this matter and that she would actually do it (she would never). So Sai could see Vahini's discomfort but not Virat. Also, Sai herself was uncomfortable with the idea because she knew who Patralekha was in the equation between the deal husband-wife. But Virat came from a very "ignorant" (say insensitive) frame of mind, where he assumed that the two women were also being as practical about the arrangement between them as he was. It's a very male thing too -- they don't always understand a woman's emotions when they feel that it is "sorted" through conversations and they have conveyed their point.

Of course, it would have meant they would befriend each other and reduce his need to search for his migraine wala balm

Hahaha.. I actually thought this was the main reason.. By then did he even know that Patralekha is a chaheti bahu..She was not actually that much a chaheti bahu when Sai entered.. Bhavani is the most intelligent of the lot..She is emotionally intelligent...She knows Sai, Virat and Patralekha all three.. And thats how she plays her cards.. So I could understand her like towards Patralekha that came up suddenly...

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Hahaha.. I actually thought this was the main reason.. By then did he even know that Patralekha is a chaheti bahu..She was not actually that much a chaheti bahu when Sai entered.. Bhavani is the most intelligent of the lot..She is emotionally intelligent...She knows Sai, Virat and Patralekha all three.. And thats how she plays her cards.. So I could understand her like towards Patralekha that came up suddenly...

@red How do you guys understand these things? You are slowly on your way to becoming a Virat expert yourself....😆

@blue I think it was not about chaheeti bahu title (which as you rightly pointed out Pakhi was yet to win) but rather Virat's confidence in Pakhi's 'maturity quotient'. He had full faith that being a mature person, she could guide 'immature', 'moophat' Sai in mellowing down her tone.