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Posted: 5 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: ..Peppermint..


Wo dance kare, bahoon mein uthaey, hug kare, cheeks ko touch kare, ask her to even drop the formality - wo yeh sab kare to thik, Ahir ussey paani offer kare to problem🤡


And let me not even talk about his speed comment🤡🤡🤡

ugh my ears at the "speed", "fast", "sab kuch karke"


the "sab kuch karke" is still stinging me

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Posted: 5 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: ..Peppermint..


Wo dance kare, bahoon mein uthaey, hug kare, cheeks ko touch kare, ask her to even drop the formality - wo yeh sab kare to thik, Ahir ussey paani offer kare to problem🤡


And let me not even talk about his speed comment🤡🤡🤡


Yes that’s his hypocrisy and hope someone calls him out on all that in the show


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Posted: 5 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: prs_725


This is so true though. In his mind, he seems like those guys that say "yeh toh ab meri hain" ...It's evident w the way he took her and left her on the side walk, the way he holds his finger and says "bas..". Jitna haq se use sab kuch karta hain, in his mind, without her consent, she is his. So uske saath its all fine, but anokhi ke saath koi aur itni maadat aur touch kare toh woh "loose"


matlab, dil se usko woh apni bandi lag ne lagi hain without her consenting to it 🤣 galat fehmi ka maara 🤣

@bold - yeh same cheej agar ACP karta and phir sorry bolta toh?

Toh phir he would have insinuated sex kya directly 🤢. Im telling u, uska koi control nahi hai uske toungue par. Kuch bhi, matlab kuch bhi bol skta hai !

And what his bandi? 😆 Ek raat pehle tak woh uske gaadi mei baithne ke liye taiyaar nahi thi 🤣. And Im sorry , I might be spoiling Saturday Epi for u guys....but I was taken aback by "Iska iske dad ke saath kya issue hai...phir kabhi puch lunga" . That was sweet, thoughtful and caring , which is nice. But it's also kinda delusional. What made him think ki woh puchega and Anokhi bata degi? 😆 As far as I know, she wouldn't have told him anything 😆! She needed to learn more good things abt him before opening up! But alas! 😆


Waise he was on the right track! Today she looked impressed that he came to police station for her. She would have been super impressed if he helped her out of cheating fiasco.😆 Phir woh pakka bata deti and almost patt jaati usse. But bande ne khud hi apne paer par kulhaadi maar di! 🤣


PS: This track is really good for Anokhi. She wont be blinded by his good , caring side. She will know he has a monster that he can unleash if things dont go his way.! And also a good track for Shaurya. He will know that he can lose Anokhi, whom he is getting too affected by , if he dosent change certain things abt himself!

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Posted: 5 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: ..Peppermint..

First of all, Shaurya this is for you: 🤬💣🔪🏺🏏🏑🏒🏓🥊🩴👞👟🥾🥿👠👡🩰👢📌✂️🔨🪓⛏⚒🛠🗡⚔🪚🔧🥥

I absolutely hated what he said and he deserves some serious gallis, jootes and everything that hurts! Please shower some jhootes and gallis when you reply here.😃



"Bade logon ki choti soch, ek aam baat hain

Khaas baat to tab hogi, jab ek aam ladki ki badi soch inse takaar legi"


This was the tagline of the show, it's very premise. The episode today and the one tomorrow and countless other episodes in the future will be there to highlight the difference in badi vs chotti soch, the difference in ideologies.

Am I disappointed in Shaurya as a character: No.

Am I disappointed in the makers: No.

Was this character butchering: Not according to me.

Was this done for some drama quotient: No.

Am I angry with Shaurya: Yes, very.



Let me explain:

He did not disappoint me as a misogynist character. Trust me, I hate the words he used. But, I am more disappointed in the imaginary portrait that I, and many others, have built of Shaurya. In the past weeks, we've seen sides of him that have made us sympathise and understand him - sides that have made me question the tagline - Is he really a misogynist, I have asked myself this question a lot of times in the past few weeks. And I got my answer today. Yes, he is. And No, he is not going to change so fast, so soon. He was never meant to be Prince charming or a Knight in Shining armor and the episode showed me, he is not. He has a lot to unlearn and re-learn and that will start tomorrow.

Now, how do I blame the makers for this, how do I call this character butchering just to increase drama when the show came with a warning: that the Male Lead is not your typical bad guy with a soft heart who will manhandle the heroine, instead he is a grey character with a "chotti soch" and he will hurt the heroine with his ideologies and beliefs. No wonder we are so repulsed by what we have seen today, but this isn't this what we were promised in the promos?

Of course, I get that we've showered lots of love on Shaurya the past days and so, the Shaurya today is a bitter pill to swallow. However, I've always felt that as much as the soft side is a part of him, this ugly side is a part of him as well, and so, his ugly side will be as ugly, as his soft side is beautiful. His misogyny was never going to be restricted to his attitude about woman unable to balance the home and career, it was always going to lurk and show up through his relations with woman.

I don't know if you guys remember, but when Astha was in hospital and Shaurya went to visit, he mentioned something along the lines of, Astha called Shaan and got herself admitted to such a good hospital with luxurious facilities when she couldn't handle it herself. The belief, and ingrained it is, that working women from humble background would not hesitate to leave their family for their career, but when in financial difficulty those women would cling on the same family for support was there, loud and clear. It was a similar situation today but was made more potent with his choice of words. He knows that Anokhi is an achiever and has an intense desire for being educated and following her dreams, however, he also thinks that she is trying to keep a back up in the form of rich man.

His jealousy was there, obviously, but it was not the reason why he said the things he did. He spewed the nonsense because he believed in them. His jealousy was only a catalyst for him to reveal his true side.

The motive of this post is not to justify Shaurya, but simply to show that he has always been like that. He has been socialised like that from a very young age, the belief and attitude he holds towards woman has been inculcated in him, by his family, and it's surfacing now. A major part of what we become in later life is due to our socialisation period, where values and norms become a part of our psyche and prompt us to behave in the way we do.

It's interesting that both of our leads are part of very patriarchal households, but one chose to rebel, while the other chose to accept and perpetuate. The difference though, is in mentality - shaped by society and the immediate environment. And this is what the show is about, I believe. Just like Astha has been the light in Anokhi's life, and has been a part of her socialisation process. The lightstick has been passed. So, now it is Anokhi who will be the light to his ugly side and will be part of his re-socialisation process which will lead to a change in his belief system. Anokhi will not be his rehab centre, but instead would be the mirror that he needed. She will not heal him, she will show him how to heal himself.


Again some jhootes for S.S🌚: 🩴👞👟👠🥿👡🩰👢


🤬🤬💣💣👠👠👡👡👢👞👟 Shaurya ne bahut galat kiaa...

Character kitna Sahi banaya tha uska..but aaj to sab barbad kar diye..

Shaurya ki wajh se kal aur aj k episode m zameen asaman ka difference tha...


Kale wala SHAURYA ❤️❤️❤️❤️

Aur aaj wala🙄🙄👠👠

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Posted: 5 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: ashwariya_98

@bold - yeh same cheej agar ACP karta and phir sorry bolta toh?

Toh phir he would have insinuated sex kya directly 🤢. Im telling u, uska koi control nahi hai uske toungue par. Kuch bhi, matlab kuch bhi bol skta hai !

And what his bandi? 😆 Ek raat pehle tak woh uske gaadi mei baithne ke liye taiyaar nahi thi 🤣. And Im sorry , I might be spoiling Saturday Epi for u guys....but I was taken aback by "Iska iske dad ke saath kya issue hai...phir kabhi puch lunga" . That was sweet, thoughtful and caring , which is nice. But it's also kinda delusional. What made him think ki woh puchega and Anokhi bata degi? 😆 As far as I know, she wouldn't have told him anything 😆! She needed to learn more good things abt him before opening up! But alas! 😆


Waise he was on the right track! Today she looked impressed that he came to police station for her. She would have been super impressed if he helped her out of cheating fiasco.😆 Phir woh pakka bata deti and almost patt jaati usse. But bande ne khud hi apne paer par kulhaadi maar di! 🤣


PS: This track is really good for Anokhi. She wont be blinded by his good , caring side. She will know he has a monster that he can unleash if things dont go his way.! And also a good track for Shaurya. He will know that he can lose Anokhi, whom he is getting too affected by , if he dosent change certain things abt himself!

lol woh galat fehmi mein hain that anokhi is his. woh itni madad karta hain aur use bhav nahi deti but he still does it bc he just wants some love 😆 so he is in galat fehmi ...


i think she would have told him, she might have asked why he wants to know. But seeing that he went to police station and helped her - she might have opened him to show him that problems sab ko hoti hain but parents will be parents.


Now toh she wont tell him anything 🤣


yeah im glad this progressed, story ka crux ab shuru hua hain...now their story will actually progress bc he will change starting this point.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#36

Great thread. Loved reading the comments. Shaurya's thinking about women is something even real men from normal families possess and perpetuate. So do you guys think if Aastha stayed back, would Shaurya turn out to be more open minded? Or even Aastha would not be able to instill liberal values in him because of the environment of that house. As we can see Gayatri could not inculcate good values in her daughters.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Idiotboxer

Great thread. Loved reading the comments. Shaurya's thinking about women is something even real men from normal families possess and perpetuate. So do you guys think if Aastha stayed back, would Shaurya turn out to be more open minded? Or even Aastha would not be able to instill liberal values in him because of the environment of that house. As we can see Gayatri could not inculcate good values in her daughters.

nope, i think he would not have changed ...his anger and hatred for his mom may not be there. he would have still been a padha likha gawar.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Awesome discussion on this topic. To be honest, he was always clear he wanted a woman who would consider him her priority. Her world should be incomplete without him.

I feel, based on the story so far, he started seeing Anokhi in that light who would always need him to prove herself innocent, to save her from trouble, to protect her from goons, to basically solve all her problems in her life, including a family issue. I think CVs have purposely not focused on ways Anokhi could help and save Shaurya to ensure his ego keeps boosting 🤓.

The moment she started looking at Someone else for such support, he felt he is losing out on a woman he can carry around on her arms and keep her safe. Jealousy, guilt, courage are the factors attracting Anokhi towards him.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: shahsb_26

Awesome discussion on this topic. To be honest, he was always clear he wanted a woman who would consider him her priority. Her world should be incomplete without him.

I feel, based on the story so far, he started seeing Anokhi in that light who would always need him to prove herself innocent, to save her from trouble, to protect her from goons, to basically solve all her problems in her life, including a family issue. I think CVs have purposely not focused on ways Anokhi could help and save Shaurya to ensure his ego keeps boosting 🤓.

The moment she started looking at Someone else for such support, he felt he is losing out on a woman he can carry around on her arms and keep her safe. Jealousy, guilt, courage are the factors attracting Anokhi towards him.

territorial also..if he does stuff for her, she must also keep him first above all else. he calmed down when anokhi sided w him saying he can stay and he is right. the min the acp touched her or he was silenced...he lost it. smh

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Posted: 5 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: prs_725

ugh my ears at the "speed", "fast", "sab kuch karke"


the "sab kuch karke" is still stinging me


More like he was talking about himself!

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