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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: sukri


It's not love, not friendship, not even attraction at this point. They share some kind of wierd toxic thing (not sure what to call it) that I can't relate to or understand.

Guilt, sense of responsibility and also he believes and considers himself to be her friend.


As much as I hate their scenes and the guy's behavior, I think I know why he is the way he is.


Though he doesn't love her anymore, he cannot ignore the fact that it was him who had asked her to marry his brother. As per him, she is in this state because of him. He was made aware of the fact that Samrat might have come to know about their relationship.

His brother MIA is the main reason for him sympathizing with her. Also, the waada part 😂😂😂 one part he has conveniently forgotten (thanks to Sai), the other part, he really meant when he said he will be her friend and will always be there for when she needs him.


It is guilt and sympathy put together which is making him behave like this. Guilt is mainly because she is now in this position without a partner, though she is married because he convinced her to get married to his brother.


He can't handle Sai dance to someone singing or fake flirting. If she has a guy similar to what he shares with Pakhi, (forget living in the same house) there would be daily fights. He wouldn't be able to handle it coz he truly expects wifely behavior from Sai.

I hate this about him. He fails to think it from this point of view. I am not sure if it is also because he thinks Sai doesn't care, she doesn't even consider him to be her husband? Don't know. In future if he does that, it would mean that he just doesn't care what Sai would think. He might have an unreasonable expectation from Sai to understand their friendship. Might develop a taken for granted attitude too. But not at this point.



But then why does he do all this after knowing what Sai thinks of him and Pakhi without clarifying his stand to Sai.

Assuming that it doesn't matter to Sai. It is like how he once told Pakhi when she asked him pn phone from her maayka if Sai was waiting for him, his answer was "Sai kabhi mera wait nahi karti hai".


Right now I think he thinks "Sai ko iss baat se koi farq nahi padta hai aur na hi kabhi padega".


Funny part is he will be hurt thinking this way but has no clue how much he is hurting Sai. I agree Sai hasn't accepted him as her husband, but when he got a chance to explain he didn't.



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Posted: 5 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: sukri


It's not love, not friendship, not even attraction at this point. They share some kind of wierd toxic thing (not sure what to call it) that I can't relate to or understand.



He can't handle Sai dance to someone singing or fake flirting. If she has a guy similar to what he shares with Pakhi, (forget living in the same house) there would be daily fights. He wouldn't be able to handle it coz he truly expects wifely behavior from Sai.


But then why does he do all this after knowing what Sai thinks of him and Pakhi without clarifying his stand to Sai.


@bold I really want this and we can ask for one such track from the makers


A guy in Sai's life, living in CN, Sai and that guy becoming friends and are true friends unlike Paakhi didi's friendship. I really really want to see Virat and I don't want him to burst like a volcano always, sometimes grow angry, upset, hurt but most importantly realise how Sai must be feeling and reflect on his actions.


Jealousy can me made to show him a mirror. Not some stupid Jo bhi khet kind of jealousy.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I haven't watched the episode and I might not after this😭

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Despite being a Sai admirer,I don’t agree with your last para that Sairat are not meant for each other. I agree with Nitu that there is no rule that always perfection should be the basis for companionship. Every couple will have their own flaws and if there is love between them,their journey together makes for a beautiful experience to cherish.

Mostly couples will always have difference of opinion in many issues. Fact. There will be roadblocks in the way to peaceful coexistence.

I still feel Virat loves Sai and only hurdle he has to cross is his sick relationship with Pakhi. I can not call it Love or friendship,care or concern. It is disgusting and irritating to say the least.,These two I mean Virat and Pakhi derived a strange kind of relationship that can not be termed under the words that exist in our dictionaries. I pity Sai that she has to go through this kind of nonsense every day put up by the so called best friends who are not friends at all.


@bold ❤❤


@italics very true

I think you have worded what Sai spoke in the right way

Though she shouldn't have spoken about their relationship in public, why will she find what they share as friendship. She didn't accuse them of having an affair but she meant something similar to this "wierd/strange relationship" under the name of friendship

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Despite being a Sai admirer,I don’t agree with your last para that Sairat are not meant for each other. I agree with Nitu that there is no rule that always perfection should be the basis for companionship. Every couple will have their own flaws and if there is love between them,their journey together makes for a beautiful experience to cherish.

Mostly couples will always have difference of opinion in many issues. Fact. There will be roadblocks in the way to peaceful coexistence.

I still feel Virat loves Sai and only hurdle he has to cross is his sick relationship with Pakhi. I can not call it Love or friendship,care or concern. It is disgusting and irritating to say the least.,These two I mean Virat and Pakhi derived a strange kind of relationship that can not be termed under the words that exist in our dictionaries. I pity Sai that she has to go through this kind of nonsense every day put up by the so called best friends who are not friends at all.


I think from Virat's side its a feeling of friendship for Pakhi with a mixture of guilt. He thinks Pakhi's life is ruined because of him, she is alone because of him. Virat is an emotional person, for him that is huge weight on his shoulder.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh


@bold I really want this and we can ask for one such track from the makers


A guy in Sai's life, living in CN, Sai and that guy becoming friends and are true friends unlike Paakhi didi's friendship. I really really want to see Virat and I don't want him to burst like a volcano always, sometimes grow angry, upset, hurt but most importantly realise how Sai must be feeling and reflect on his actions.


Jealousy can me made to show him a mirror. Not some stupid Jo bhi khet kind of jealousy.


Yaar yeh sab nahi milega. .


Otherwise how can they show Pakhi till the very last episode and be whitewashed as a mahan character.


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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: sukri


Yaar yeh sab nahi milega. .


Otherwise how can they show Pakhi till the very last episode and be whitewashed as a mahan character.


Aap OS likho


@bold How did I forget this 😂😂

Sai can also be out of the show, not her 😂


@italics sure 😉

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh


@bold ❤❤


@italics very true

I think you have worded what Sai spoke in the right way

Though she shouldn't have spoken about their relationship in public, why will she find what they share as friendship. She didn't accuse them of having an affair but she meant something similar to this "wierd/strange relationship" under the name of friendship

And Sai has every right to find their relationship wierd and strange. Virat never bothered to analyse and explain it to himself Atleast.

Virat never tried to assess what he was doing because of which Sai developed such view. He can’t dictate Pakhi in this regard but Atleast he could check himself and change his tone and respond to Sai’s take..on their equation.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Virat doesn't love Sai..He still love his bhabi

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sairat

Hello Everyone,


So , please throw chappals in pairs and tomatoes fresh please..I know i am asking for the wrath of all; but this is a geniune question I have??

Sawaal poochne par chappals/tomatoes kyun maarega koi?! Poocho poocho...😆


1) What is Virat feeling for Sai as I am damn sure its not love/zimmedari??

Love because your opinion does not change about the person you love with situations..for eg.:During when Sai was leaving home, he asked her to consider him her family..but in today's episode he is again back to Meri Family and Meri Tai.

Zimmedari, i am sure she is not; you don't get possesive about your zimmedari.


Virat feels a sense of care, affection and deep attraction for Sai at the moment -- one word for it is "love", but it is not yet at the stage where it is self-acknowledged as "love". He feels responsible for her just like we do for people we care about. She is not his "farz" anymore. He gets possessive about her because one of the definite feelings he has is his sense of entitlement over her and that has always been the case because he wishes well for her and is "responsible" for taking important decisions for her, he thinks.

His opinion about the "person" that Sai is has not changed. The opinion about the situation has changed. Much as I would like to avoid saying but this entire track is useless because of the loose writing and deliberately skipped conversations that were a must before planning wedding so analysing the behaviours is actually a futile exercise at this point for this forced misunderstanding. But anyway, his opinion that "Sai ka dil accha hai" has not changed. He thinks she's acting on impulse, which is true because she is only acting on impulse in this matter. She should take it neutrally and ask questions. Going into something only with the intention of proving the other person wrong is childish. The fact is that Sai doesn't know the story and she could be wrong. She is trusting her instinct and we are going all out to support her because we, as viewers, know so far that Pulkit is a nice man from the knowledge about the story. If it was a show that we didn't know, we would have had a doubt as well.

He said meri family and meri tai but he didn't mean it in a way that she is not part of it. Apart from Aai and Devyani, Sai doesn't consider anyone part of her family (not even Shivani, she has never mentioned her name in that although she likes her). So, him reminding her that she's meddling into affairs of the family is not wrong. While Sai does not care about the consequences, Virat does. He has sensed that this won't go down well with the elders if she continues to be stubborn and if proven wrong. He does not want to lose her.


Now; isn't Virat a miniature version of Ninad, like Ninad wants Ashwini to raise all children of family, do wifely duties to him; he won't let her go without his permission anywhere but when it comes to Ashwini putting out her opinions on family matters; he would demean her!!

I don't think he is a miniature version of Ninad but he has ingrained toxic patriarchy from the family and it manifests itself from time to time. The consolation is that he has a conscience that speaks to him often. But he is like many other 'man/husband', who wants his wife to understand him even in his worst behaviours -- because his good behaviour is also for her. He expects her to understand why he wants her to follow some things he says while fighting for "important" things that concern her. He does not demean Sai for voicing her opinion but he wants her to be diplomatic -- she can't be, it's not in her nature. He loses control and gets instigated whenever he's made to feel that she does not give any importance to him and he remains silent during the worst things said to her by others, but he mostly regrets when he realises he was wrong and takes corrective steps. Ninad loathes Ashwini even in her absence. Virat does not.


2) What is Sai feeling for Virat??

So; Sai has rubbed him off as aap mere kuch nhi lagte till hand holding drama but after that announcement of Virat: "Mujhe apni family samjho"

She has again started calling him her husband in front of family and even in conversation with Usha Maushi..when UM warned her of impending doom; she was visibly shaken that nothing would happen to her and Virat's relationship.First time since long, she did not brushed it away like it comes with 5 year warranty thing!!

But Sai is falling for Virat , quick and deep and who will not ??Virat is a caring, considerate husband but is care = love??

What if Sai develops deep feelings for Virat this time and Virat goes back to pendulum; which he will??Today's warning of Venom didi to choose between family and Sai, how long before he chooses family and how a 19 year old Sai will deal with heartbreak that comes with it, do we think that kind of scar will ever leave Sai as a women and would anyone will be able to remove it..?

Sai is falling in love with Virat just as he is falling in love with her. But she keeps brushing him off and speaking rudely to the extent of disowning him from time to time -- it is her defence mechanism and not intentional disrespect for Virat. When she reaches a point that she cannot resist his advances, she rebuffs his actions by reminding him of the "five year deal". That reminder is also made more because she wants to hear him refute it and tell her that she doesn't have to go. I don't think she started calling him her husband after Usha's conversation. It was after the moments they shared between them -- him finally telling her at least "Main nahi chahta tum jao" but not answering the "Why" -- she knows the answer but she wants to hear it, it is a natural feeling. It was also after he used an expression like "apne Pati ko?" (I am yours) for the first time. It replenished that emptiness she had begun to feel after the Ladakh fiasco and the series of fights.

Between choosing family and Sai-- I have asked this question on the day he gave her the challenge to win over his dil ke acche bade "Will he choose her over her family the day she is actually wrong?" Now, that is something we need to see and the answer is a dreadful "no", perhaps? He might not choose her immediately in that moment of anger if she is wrong but he will repent and seek her again. Coming to the scar it would leave: I think between spouses, if one has been wrong and the other has reacted to that wrong action, there should be room for introspection at both ends. Why does she not have the patience and trust his words when he says he will re-look?..and may be, join in that investigation on her own (in typical TV style) also gathering proofs to make him see how he has been misled. She knows he's not going to side with the family if he gets proof of Pulkit's innocence. Why is she pledging to marry off Devyani when it's just a matter of a few days that the truth will be out (the loose plot, I know). So, in such a situation, one cannot blame Virat if he's enraged and sides with the family in that moment of madness that the house will witness.

Will he choose his family over Sai if he knows she's right. The answer is "No". And so, the scars that would come with a "reaction" to a wrong action are not the same as those when it has been inflicted with malice.

I love both the characters, but I must confess I love Sai more. Yet, this time, I am not able to justify her action or even her blind belief in her own instinct because she's assuming the authority for a person who's not in her own senses to make the right decision. She should be careful.

Is care=love? Not of the spousal kind. But it is one of the aspects of love. As I said earlier, Sai does not know if she means "more" than zimmedari and care to Virat because he has not explicitly stated his complete "sach" and answered the questions she has asked. So she will keep going back and forth from mera pati to mere kuch nahi lagte...



3) What Virat feels for Sai is it attraction?

Then I would say the attraction that he felt for Venom vahini was far much stronger in 2 days rather than what he is feeling for his wife of 6+ months...

His 2 day attraction he gave her vaada of eternal celibacy, has a permanent soft spot for that women and atleast her status as his friend and family is never questioned!!

With Sai , she does not even have a full time family status depends on situations?? Her soft spot in his life depends on her actions , of how family welfare is respondent to it??So basically she has to proof everytime she is right for even the basic rights in that family!!

I don't think Virat's attraction for Vedi Vahini was stronger that what he now feels for Sai. If it were he would have turned into a brooding man instead of the kind of jovial goof he is with Sai . He doesn't have a soft spot for her because of the attraction but because he is actually an emotional person (just like Sai). The difference is that here the male protagonist expresses his emotions in tears and the female is a go-getter. Usually it is the other way round. He will not question Vahini's status in the family because until Samrat comes back and announces a decision (which he's not expecting to be dire), she is the Badi bahu and Samrat's wife and he feels "responsible" to ensure she is honoured. It will continue until he realises she's the one doing "khilwaad" with the family's izzat. He does not prioritize his time for Vahini over Sai, nor his feelings. But being under the same roof means there will be many instances when they will have a chat without Sai or she will continue to hound and interrupt the couple until he draws the line. We are all waiting for that. (What I absolutely don't like still is that he never told her she would have to live in the same house as the woman who he had promised his heart to. She had the right to know that.)

@bold: I don't think Virat has any such thoughts in his mind. He is very clear that she is "ghar ki bahu" and a member of the family. Sai does not just have a soft spot in his heart, she now has his heart. That is a fact. They will continue to face ups and downs and have several disagreements. In real life, many couples never come on the same page regarding family issues and ultimately the more practical/proven idea is accepted reluctantly by the other spouse. It is a part of the marriage where the couple has to be involved with other members as well. His outbursts at Sai have appeared as if he's speaking from the side of his family but he wasn't. It has always been about an unresolved issue between them and unfortunately comes out in public as a fight out of their incompatibility.


Why are we shipping SaiRat ,aren't they better off without each other??

I would like to know your thoughts on above questions and also are you guys going through this kind of detattachment that I have started feeling??

I don't think Virat and Sai are better off without each other. If at all we get the separation track, we will see how they will both realise that they have taken each other for granted on many occasions -- and it is very natural for spouses to take each other for granted, even if you have actually known one another for years and are in love and share physical intimacy too -- here, they are still in the infancy of gelling with one another. It's a long road ahead... It is actually this very real friction between them while they are beginning to blend that is keeping me hooked still. The day it feels that it is gone, I will snap out of it.

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