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Posted: 5 years ago
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Loved reading the main post and replies. My hope is they can maintain or improve upon the character once he falls in love. Keep him decent, dignified and respectful as a man in love. I think they show a passionate love story without the unnecessary macho-ness and aggression.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: EternalSoul17


Maine bhi same socha tha, phir woh hug scene dekha and I think ki that has to be one of the best executed scenes in itv at least for me it is, aur bas usko baad toh ye hu result hai jo hai😂


Him being rude to anokhi is reasonable but anokhi crossing boundaries is reasonable too according to me, (have explained it in the aastha’s breakdown post)

I might have missed it. Pls attach the link.

But Anokhi was crossing certain boundaries lately. She had already brought the bday thing and he refused, she should have stopped there. Shaurya was right today.

One of the reasons he had an outburst was because he felt pressurized and confused with her pestering. Anokhi is using a direct approach but she actually needs to ease him into the conversation instead of constantly blaming him for misbehaving with Astha maam. By shoving Astha down his throat she is only making him choke.


I think more than assuming things, she is actually not at all thinking from her mind, usko bas itna pata hai ki wo Aastha mam ko aise nahi Dekh sakti hai jise usne humesha strong rehte hue dekha hai, anokhi is not able to see such a woman breaking down on top of that she is not well, which is making her cross boundaries. Makers are also not excusing her behaviour (like Shaurya pointed out in today’s episode)

Absolutely. She is only thinking about Astha. She is jumping in between two people and completely disregarding the fact there are TWO people in this situation. She needs to understand that to solve this problem, she has to understand Shaurya's problem first. She is treating it like a one sided issue which is just not fair.

She said Shaurya is not the only one with parent issues but she speaks to him as if he is the one responsible for the issues.

All i want to say is if she really wants to solve the problem. She needs to balance both versions of the story instead of siding one.

Edited by AK_2010 - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: EternalSoul17

First off, I swear I have never loved or related to any male character or for that matter any character as much as shaurya, [except the prejudiced notions he has about working women (in this case I 100% relate to anokhi , also I love her too❤️, and I am really rooting for you girl🤧)


Anyways this is specifically about shaurya, so I’ll continue like abhi to zyada time Bhi nahi Hua and I Am already so attached him

I think Aisa ml itv pe Kabhi nhi aaya, like someone who is passionate but is also soft.

This couple really has the ability to give an angst which is healthy not toxic, something I have so been craving to watch.

He is not someone who says respect women and still treats the FL as trash, he is the real deal. He isn’t someone who forces his opinion on the women in his life. Even for Shagun he GAVE HER the CHOICE, and then respected her decision though taunted her but still he didn’t totally take it on his ego. Honestly, this is where he is different. He doesn’t have much ego, he apologises whenever needed, he listens to what women (Specifically mentioned women because misogynistic mindset totally dismissed women and their opinions and so the mcp ml of itv)

He is against raising his hand on women, never for once did he indulge in victim blaming in the molestation case (which misogynists love to do)

He supports his bhabhi, dance kar rahi toh Karenr do, he would NEVER taunt his wife( ki mere upar dependent ho,mera ghar mere paise use kar rahi ho🤢) and all.

He would truly consider her as his equal and her opinions as equal.

Honestly kis angle se Misogynist Hai I don’t understand 😂

Even woh homemaker wala bhi he is NOT going to force It on any woman, he is going to only marry tHat woman who WANTS to be a homemaker out of HER choice.

Yeah wanting only housewife is a prejudiced notion he has jiske reasons hain but I won’t count it as full blown misogyny.


I consider misogyny to be a whole Mindset which literally hates women wants to silence them, torture them, consider them as second class citizens.

And casual sexism, or rather one example of it As subconsciously dismissing women’s opinions and everything she says (I have seen many guys doing that) which shaurya doesn’t do at all even in his anger.


His another amazing quality is that he listens and refrains from shouting and scaring the FL

(They have argued, he has spoken rudely (obviously not justifying it, he has to redeem it going ahead) but has never tried to or intended to scare her, or tried to overpower her even in so much anger which even so called gentleman lead does too sometimes)

And can’t believe I am saying this as it shows how low of a standard itv has set for male leads but yet it is how it is. He has never ever crossed anokhi’s personal space without her consent (anokhi said don’t touch me in that bouquet scene and shaurya didn’t, no questions asked , such subtly showing consent)

Whenever he has invaded her space ( eg lifting her in that car scene) , she still felt comfortable, not an ounce of uncomfort was present) and he knows ki itna Toh comfortable hai anokhi uske Saath And she really is that comfortable with him (maybe bcs woh sahi mein uske saath safe feel karti hain). Jo bhi hai, I honestly like this aspect so much.

It might also be since he is a professor so obv him doing like this would take away all the integrity of his character. But I don’t see shaurya as a character doing something like this even if it wasn’t a college setting.


Pata nhi kya kya likha hai par shaurya ke liye toh puri book bhi likh dun to bhi kam hain, Pagal ho gyi hun lag raha hai😭😭

Bas Aisa hi rahe pls kuch bhi ho jaye , if makers mess with him my heart will break🥺

Why do I even watch itv jaante hue bhi ki baad mein mera 🤡 banne wala hain, itne Baar disappointment ke baad bhi lagta ki nahi ab different hoga par, hopefully iss bar *touchwood and fingers crossed* acha rahe show going ahead.

Totally in rant mode today, but Thanks for reading😊

I agree totally! From the initial promo they did set out a bad impression for Shaurya

But Shaurya isn’t full blown misogynistic he has more respect for women in his heart and actions than any other itv lead ever. I wonder why did they intentionally messed up his first-impression from the teaser lol

Hopefully they don’t follow with it. Its the best one of the lot right now. Im totally charmed and in love 🥰

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I am assuming his mysogonist nature might come into light once they become and official couple. He might oppose her every decision and she needs to fight to get her due.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: AK_2010

All i want to say is if she really wants to solve the problem. She needs to balance both versions of the story instead of siding one.

Originally posted by: AK_2010

All i want to say is if she really wants to solve the problem. She needs to balance both versions of the story instead of siding one.

Aastha’s breakdown (okay so newbies are not allowed to post hyperlinks 🙄) but this is the title of the post hopefully you find it, kar hi post kiya tha so isn’t long back. Just like how shaurya has reasons to say such things to aastha when she is sick, when she was just trying to explain her side of the story, and then he says tum jeeyo ya maro mujhe fark nahi Padhta, imagine what must have been the effect on aastha. In any other scenario anyone would have said how can you talk like that to your mother. Phir toh anokhi is soo soo close to aastha and aastha matters a lot to her, they have shown their bonding in previous episodes. Also I honestly feel it was shaurya who Was involved by saying aapko to mazaa aa rha hoga na, chote gaanv and all; shaurya ki itni mistakes humne Maaf kiya bcs he is really grieving, But anokhi is fiercely dedicated and loyal to aastha, so why can’t we find this as a reason for her crossing boundaries. Someone whom you consider as your second mother and one person is constantly hurting with his harsh words while she has recently come out of coma, anyone would honestly lose their mind, and same has happened with anokhi she is not thinking logically is so true but it is reasonable just like I have felt shaurya’s anger has going overboard a lot of times previously, him blaming anokhi for the media thing without any proof and has still not apologised for it and also the fact it was HIS sisters who did it, Patli gali se nikal liya, making entrance so hard for her just because she is aastha’s student, he is the one who brought aastha in middle since the start. I love shaurya a lot but he has still made a lot of mistakes even in previous episodes some things he has said to anokhi without any fault of hers, tab shaurya ne anokhi ko samjha? Jaante hue ki wo apne ghar we bhaag kar aayi hai So that she can attend college and is obviously qualified. Class ke Bahar nikaal diya just bcs woh baat kar rahi thi, notes maang rahi thi aur dusra ladka was sleeping in class tab kuch nhi kiya, he has since starting treated her unfairly, he was the first one to cross boundaries of a fair professor and made it personal; bas ragging mein saath Diya (Woh bhi he said clearly only for college reputation) and usme bhi beech mein said ki yeh sab aastha aur anokhi ka plan hai, dude you saw her ki wo kis condition me thi and still you came into your family ki baatein so easily? and Vineet ke case mein, shaurya has always blamed her for muddling college’s reputation not even for once thought uspe jo beeti uska kya, usne kabhi usse empathise nhi kiya, and that’s a fact (except he supported her when she came out of the locked room and I love him for this) par ab anokhi empathise nahi kar rahi toh we should also look from her pov. Starting mein to think ki dono ek dusre se empathise Karne lagenge is not realistic. It will take time for their bond to develop; shaurya has crossed lines too in his anger from the first day which was his mistake, something which he has still not redeemed(not apologising for the media part) just like shaurya is vulnerable here anokhi was vulnerable too, first day of college in new city and she goes through ragging and molestation already dealing with her abusive father and jiju at such a tender age. Just like we try to understand ki if shaurya is committing mistakes then why, we should also understand ki if anokhi is committing mistakes then why and trust me dono ke reasons infact anokhi ke reasons are even more so justified. Also need to keep in mind shaurya is the more mature person here while anokhi is still just 19/20. And none of us have been logical all the time in that age, us age main lagta hai hume sab pata hai, hum saare issues sort out kar lenge, high on emotions all the time, and anokhi is behaving like a very normal rebellious teenager. aur ye age difference ke wajah se jo difference in actions aur thoughts Hai woh they and us both have to put up with. Isi liye couples with a huge difference still have a harder time being compatible with one another time. Just my pov; she will obviously be a lot more immature than shaurya and yeh immaturity rahe hi kuch time tak. Just my pov Sorry for such a long post😅 and I appreciate your views😊 feel free to disagree, I am up for the convo😂😄
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: anjani-pagli

I am assuming his mysogonist nature might come into light once they become and official couple. He might oppose her every decision and she needs to fight to get her due.


Could be possible but i hope it just remains till his prejudiced notions about working women is present, once he overcomes those notions, then he should be the biggest supporter of anokhi no matter what the circumstance or situation arises, i really hope this happens

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I think the two things are different , shaurya has a kind heart , not only for women but people around him. Yes he is unforgiving but that doesn't make him a misogynist . His prejudice against working women stem from his bad experiences of past . N that's the theme of the show.. how he falls in love with a woman who is exact opposite of how he perceives his life partner and how he changes his perspective. The best part about this serial is , the women aren't dumb or becharis. Shagun broke off the engagement when she learnt about shauryas expectations. Aastha fought in her own way and so will anokhi.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: EternalSoul17


@bold : I kind of disagree here bcs I feel ki sabki preferences hoti hai but some preferences stem from stereotypes and prejudices. For e.g. wanting to marry a fair skinned man/woman might just be a preference but stems from prejudice against dark skinned people, which is so wrong, aisa hi toh hota hai iss tarah ki preferences ki wajah se overall society mein discrimination aata hai.

I feel same applies for working women too, iss tarah ke preferences ke wajah se hi many women are forced to give up on their career since majority of men in present day India want housewives.

Aisi cheezon mein preferences se zyada overall society pe kya effect padega zyada important hota hai, hence I don’t feel shaurya is in any way justified as such, just my PoV.


But totally agreed on everything else including him having a little but of superiority complex, didn’t pay attention to it before.

@Bold: really? What is the reason for this?

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: anjani-pagli

I am assuming his mysogonist nature might come into light once they become and official couple. He might oppose her every decision and she needs to fight to get her due.

I also think the same, she might question him as he is a professor and an educator and how he can have such thinking. It will show the most of educated people today also hold regressive thinking in the society. He did say "BS" to her speech on the debate competition and mentioned something along the lines of "women look good at home"

So i feel like that part of him is daba hua for now and will come out eventually. We can all dislike him then lol

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: anjani-pagli

I am assuming his mysogonist nature might come into light once they become and official couple. He might oppose her every decision and she needs to fight to get her due.


Yea she’s used to being a free bird so there’s bound to be some conflict there.
If she decides something without letting him know, he might throw a fit. Who knows? We saw how he did want Shagun to ask him before applying to Cambridge and it’s likely he’ll have similar expectations of Anokhi

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