Spashtha se kitne door aur kitne paas? - Page 3

Originally posted by: AnjuRish

When guilt tripped into a unwanted relationship u want to walk since it's is abusive and toxic It is heartbreaking and extremely painful.

I know of someone who only had support of siblings. Luckily her bro stood by her helped her cut ties and recover physically first. Over the period of time fam did understand

But it was the support of her siblings and friends like us which kept her alive.

I rem taking a couple of weeks off and staying at a house her bro arranged just to get away and think of a way out of the mess legally

You are speaking of it from the point of view of couples in a toxic relationship. And true, you can walk away. But what if the guilt inducer is a parent, family, blood relative or relative by law, who cannot be ignored and you can't cut ties? That is where the most well-meaning couples are caught in crossfires. It is easy to end a toxic marriage but saving a marriage in a toxic environment with people waiting to send you on a guilt trip is tough for any one. How does one play the balancing act without cutting ties? There can only be resentment in such cases.

The flipside: The example you mention must be of a lucky girl to have had support. There are so many people -- men and women-- more women than men-- who remain in toxic marriages because their own families induce the guilt if one wants to walk out of it also.

Originally posted by: hanishank

Very nice analysis Janki 👍🏼👏

Why always virat be sorry to others ...Sometime he will say sorry to sai on behalf of family, to pakhi on behalf of sai etc 🤪

Liked today episode after 2 days if high voltage drama

Atleast virat has cleared to didi from his side 😎

Precap shown is for Saturday means tomorrow also some drama 😒

Most of the mess is created because of Virat- he brought the barood and aag together. so who else can say sorry 😆

but jokes apart, it is because he is the over-sensitive one on the face of it.

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Liked the analysis Janakiji till the Sai Joshi part.

Why can’t a girl be ill mannered at times? There is no rule that one should always behave well with teacher even who himself is faulty in not inviting her husband also or atleast inform him that he has extended lunch invitation to his wife! Sai is immature and not used to the ways of the world,takes impulsive decisions. She was still upset over the trip fiasco otherwise I feel she would have communicated better with Virat.

Pulkit should have contacted Virat.. and informed him atleast. Virat’s concern is genuine though his behaviour is rude but I know he also did it not by intent. His bad day..

The show appeals because everyone falters with no pretensions. Despite the highly charged up fight sequences this week,actually I found the story progress and that too with a good pace.

I liked Pakhi Virat scenes both today and did not feel that they are overdone.Only problem I have is with the acting level of the actress playing Pakhi but that is a different matter.

Coming to Sai Joshi I understood how bad her mood was when she stepped into Pulkit’s house. She fought with the whole family only to find a good break through in Devi Tai issue. She was in no mood to even stay for one minute more after realising that her assumptions are wrong. Yes she is rude ..but that is life ..Sometimes we tend to misbehave for different reasons.

So I think I could understand and accept Sai’s behaviour thinking that it is her bad day..everything had gone wrong for her. It happens.

Laksmi 🤗❤️ Nothing excites me more than disagreements 😆😆

I would definitely hold Pulkit at fault for not inviting Virat on a regular time but the reason why he didn't invite him was the same as why Sai did not want to reveal anything yet. They both had an agenda for this meeting that no one else could be part of. So even if the Sai-Virat fight hadn't happened, Sai would have not revealed exactly why she was going to meet Pulkit even to Virat. Do you think she would have said, "I think he's Devyani's husband" and gotten away with it? Now, as I write, it makes me wonder if the only way to avoid telling anyone anything was to turn it into a tamasha and take it upon her because she doesn't want to take the route of being a bit tactical and using some misleading information to keep it calm. But they both were already in an unresolved fight and the issues got mixed up.

I do not fault Virat for his behaviour yesterday - as I said, it was a much-needed confrontation. It is the biggest confrontation they would ever have about the status of their relationship -- from here on, once there is that understood "belonging", the fights will be of different nature. So in the emotional turmoil that both of them went through, they both erred, both hurt each other and both were right in their own places about the reasons for their respective behaviours. It won't be resolved until one person breaks his/her ego first and the other accepts it and gives in too.

I also concur with you about her bad mood-- as I said, she might show that it doesn't affect her but it does. A fight with our closest person always affects us and doesn't allow us to think straight. She may not admit but Virat is her closest-- like she is his. So, it is obvious she is in no mood to pander to anyone or put up the facade of being happy or goody. But why choose a time like this? She decided to meet Pulkit after the fight in the bedroom with Virat -- so she was already hurting and not in the best frame of mind.

Coming to the manners part -- Sai has been cold, expressed disappointment, been dejected and even been harsh and impolite-- right or wrong-- but her behaviour has never been uncivil. And being ill-mannered is really not okay especially to people who were probably waiting for you and even prepared a meal. The tamasha at home must have definitely delayed her so Pulkit wasn't able to be there to greet her. She was almost rude to the lady who greeted her and showed no real affability for the little girl either... I would also like to blame Pulkit for being discourteous -- he did not introduce the lady to Sai. He should have done that logically but then how would there have been the drama of the misunderstanding.

I think Sai's disappointment was because she was not in the best frame of mind. She was not on her best day today -- her attentiveness and smartness were missing because of a larger turmoil inside her. On a better day, she would have sweetly prodded the lady and got the information, been curious about the missing mother from family photos and joined the dots to try and clear her own misunderstanding -- she also knows that Pulkit has said that his wife deserted him and married someone else and he is the one who's living with her memories -- she has more information that Pulkit perhaps...

I understand that she was not at her best but it is because she picked the wrong time to do the most important job of her all-important mission-Devyani. Her own emotion of being "let down" by her husband really clouded her mission and has almost jeopardised her chances of discovering the entire truth.

@bold: I am with you on that 👍🏼 In fact, I feel this step by step closure to the whole nonsensical 1.47 hours yoga love and the fact that the journey of Virat moving on is being depicted in so much detail has a reason -- the passion in the love that Sai and Virat will eventually have needs to have a strong foundation and it cannot happen if there are doubts left about his character's feelings for a "missed opportunity". I think that is what Virat actually sees her as -- exactly what she was: a missed opportunity that was not destined. I too think this entire confrontation with the whole family and between the two of them is much needed to establish the equations in their private space as well as their 'united' front against the family, which has been making a mockery of their marriage. The story cannot progress without this.

Originally posted by: Chandu_500

This is much needed post ❤

I have a question..

Jithne spasht shabdh virat ke the..almost uthne hi spasht shabdh vahini ke bhi the.. Which showed it clearly that sai was right about 'pakhi didi aapkeliye apne feelings kisike saamne chupati nay hai' even though she denied that in front of family members by covering it up with 'dosti ke pavitr rang' lol.

She was more clearly said and asked virat things that would make any normal person understand that 'vahini still feels for me..more than just a friend' but my question is did virat notice that clearly???? Or he will continue to be ignorant towards vahini's harkatein and 'feelings' for him??

That's precisely why I said two spashthatas happened -- one from Virat to Vahini (and all of us) that he has no daba hua pyaar... na kabhi hoga😆 and of course, also the confirmation that he has no memory of the vaada so it was really bhankas even for him -- like a typical guy that she actually accused him of being because he did not respond to her call. I now feel his initial flashbacks while marrying Sai were only because he feared that PP will become hysterical and go screaming shouting as she did now 🤣 (just kidding..) and he was not actually out of the infatuation then.

And second spashthata was from Vahini to Virat -- her taking off the dosti mask and actually reminding him of the vaada which really did not even affect him at all but it did help him register that Sai was not wrong. The idea was reinforced when she came running with the lunch plate within minutes with such a lame "chalo jaane do", just like spouses do after an unreasonable outburst sometimes-- something that he wanted to do with Sai after Amey and Aniket fights... I don't think he will be ignorant, it has registered with him. He is uncomfortable around her. He did not like her visit to his room but he will never be uncivil until she does something really horrible, which as Bhavani said for Sai, "jald hi hoga"

Fabulous post. I loved Virat today since he specifically told Patralekha where she stands in his life. And, Pakhi couldn't take it since now even if she tries to come close she won't succeed. And, I think he's watching her reactions closely. Before Ladakh trip when Pakhi barges in Virat's bedroom Sai asks him why he didn't disclose about her accompanying and he did say he knows what he's doing and that he knows what to say at the right time. So, maybe he will react at the right time and show Pakhi where she stands.

Coming to Sai I couldn't relate with her today. She was rude, insensitive with Pulkit. Sometimes she acts so impulsively and then regrets later. She was rude even with Ashwini who stood by her and the only man in her life, Virat. He too was there with her from the time she entered Chavan Niwas. And, the truth is she too has feelings for him. And, whatever he says or does matter to her. Only problem is she's reluctant to accept it.

Thanks for your post!

Today felt like a filler episode though Virat actually made such a huge confession! Why did that dialogue and scene not have the impact it deserved? Definitely he meant it.

The scene fell flat on its face. I still don't understand why, I wanted to hear this from Virat for such a long time.

And what faisla was Pakhi talking about...her marriage to Samrat that apparently Virat told her to go ahead with or his marriage to Sai??

Itna saara confusion

The scene between Sai and Pulkit... totally uncalled for rudeness. This is not like Sai. She is not rude without being provoked. I really hope she apologises. But Pulkit seems like a 'mature' person and he will probably find out the real story. Sai seemed lost and totally at a loose end.

I'm feeling a bit disconnected actually. Virat's attitude is still chauvinistic. Why couldn't he have had a chat with Ashwini? There are lot of serials where the ML is aggressive with the FL till they fall in love. This seems different because they established such a strong base for their relationship without the romantic tension. The whole flow seems incongruous ...he doesn't think of Sai's words at all, no introspection, no connecting scenarios from the earlier argument.

And why still confide in Pakhi?? This for me ...is not sitting well. I felt it even yesterday.

Guys follow this thread for daily dose of comedy..show ithna toxic hey ki thought of updating this kind of comedy regularly on below thread:

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/155894731

Originally posted by: scarlett22

Thanks for your post!

Today felt like a filler episode though Virat actually made such a huge confession! Why did that dialogue and scene not have the impact it deserved? Definitely he meant it.

The scene fell flat on its face. I still don't understand why, I wanted to hear this from Virat for such a long time.

>>> Every action has a equal reaction, but here the problem was Vahini was too loud and Virat was too mild (he seemed off - which he is in most of their scenes). I am sorry but these 2 actors (characters) have zero chemistry on screen. Ache scene ki band baj jaati hain.

And what faisla was Pakhi talking about...her marriage to Samrat that apparently Virat told her to go ahead with or his marriage to Sai??

Itna saara confusion

The scene between Sai and Pulkit... totally uncalled for rudeness. This is not like Sai. She is not rude without being provoked. I really hope she apologises. But Pulkit seems like a 'mature' person and he will probably find out the real story. Sai seemed lost and totally at a loose end.

I'm feeling a bit disconnected actually. Virat's attitude is still chauvinistic. Why couldn't he have had a chat with Ashwini? There are lot of serials where the ML is aggressive with the FL till they fall in love. This seems different because they established such a strong base for their relationship without the romantic tension. The whole flow seems incongruous ...he doesn't think of Sai's words at all, no introspection, no connecting scenarios from the earlier argument.

>>> Every thing is rational until the word "Love" comes into the picture. Their base is strong and it was based on respect which was mutual. But now feelings are cropping in which they are not able to handle, he is worried, upset, angry (hungry as well) and on top of it his ego is bruised so he is hurting as well. With all these feelings how is he going to think rationally. He is having hanger pangs - and those are for her attention. Which he is not getting since they fought and that's where all the problem is. Ab Viru dada ne kabhi pyaar kiya hi nahi toh samjhe ga kaise. Lets see konsi akashvaani hoti hain, as the first step has to be his. He needs forget his ego and walk ahead, she will not be able to do it, as it was her self respect more than ego which was bruised (the trip fiasco)

And why still confide in Pakhi?? This for me ...is not sitting well. I felt it even yesterday.

@Bold - Lets wait for the scene to play out, he does not seem angry in that scene but helpless. I want to know what does he do post what she says. Lets wait.. its been a drag 🤔

As always lovely analysis.

Pakhi:
I thought wow finally cat is out of the bag! when Pakhi asks Virat with hopeful eyes kya sach hai? Are you suppressing your feelings for me?

The confrontation was good. She let it all out. And she proved herself to be first class manipulative #&* with a capital B. It was her decision all along to marry Samrat, irrespective of the Wada. I mean she told her father she is going ahead so that she can stay close to Virat.

But her mask is back on when she brings food for him so she is going to manipulate him through and through with her akelapan and Wada bhulgaya Viratne story.

If Virat cannot understand Pakhi’s intentions or her manipulative skills even after this I would say the guy is really dumb.

Looks like the makers are trying to make pakhi character with grey shades. Tbh I would prefer her in full on villain mode/negative. I don’t think actress can pull on the nuances of grey shades. Because yesterday’s episode when she shouted shut up it was a long/side shot. Which means she couldn’t pull off that scene.

Virat sir, Finally thank you very much for clarifying that he doesn’t have any feelings for Pakhi. I really wish he doesn’t get guilt tripped by Pakhi like you mentioned.

the whole chakrams are manipulative but making him feel guilty for her mistakes and her decisions is really upsetting.

I always supported Sai for her ladaku attitude because of the place she comes from. But today I couldn’t support her behaviour in Pulkit’s house. She could have handled it in a better way. It’s understandable that she just came from a make or break fight of her relationship with Virat. But still still.... mann nahi manraha hai :(

I feel this is one of the flaws in itv serials. For high drama they butcher the character.

Did you feel Sai was out of character today in Pulkit place? Because I couldn’t digest her rude behaviour. I agree she fights and argues all the time with reason. But here it was all over the place.

Once again amazing analysis. All these discussions makes the serial more interesting 😊

Janaki I feel Ashwani should talk with virat .. he’s her son .. she has no control over Kaku , pakhi , ninad .. but virat ???

As a mother in law it is well within her rights .. when sayi accused the family of pushing pakhi towards virat .. and when sayi was accusing virat .. about deal marriage

she should ask him what does he want .. why is he making a mockery of marriage .. if he’s involved with pakhi as sayi feels then he should let sayi go and be in hostel ..

Release her from the stress of marriage .. and if he wants to give his marriage a chance and not make it a deal marriage then he should keep pakhi at a distance .. she should spell it out to him this is a no go .. a clear deal breaker in his marriage something the family is definitely pushing .. so he should be aware ..and work towards it

She’s a woman.. she knows how it feels ..she voices this out to everybody but is not clear with virat her own son ..