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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: by_stander

Reading comments like this are the reason for me to ask such a question:



https://www.instagram.com/stories/aisharma812/2466311940521945874/?hl=en

is this real? Is it shared by the actress herself? Sorry, am not Instagram savvy.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: adithyan


Sorry, but I don't feel sorry for Pakhi


I cannot read the insta story - I am off SM. So cannot read the story or the comments - if someone can post pics of the comments etc appreciate.

But I cannot agree more, I hate men and women who don’t move on, who hold on, especially when situation has gotten out of their control. Don’t get me wrong, there are terrible events in our lives that sometimes we may find it hard to move on from, like rape, death etc. but a situation like Pakhi’s is immature behavior and nothing else. I don’t feel sorry for Pakhi, I prefer Sai who at least knows what is in her control and what is not and moves on.


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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

is this real? Is it shared by the actress herself? Sorry, am not Instagram savvy.


YESSS... she just shared another one that has the same message as this. I am in a dilemma... I personally think the actress is doing a wonderful job with her performance, but Pakhi is not a character we should be condoning. I think I am gonna unfollow all these people for a while until I get my sanity back.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Hi! I am a silent reader on this forum and haven't been active here given certain work commitments etc. However, this question really got me thinking and here are my two cents.

The question you've posed is if we would marry someone like Virat in real life. IMO, for anyone to willingly put themselves into a labyrinth like this, that too after knowing everything sound absurd. While the protagonist of our show didn't have that liberty, I am hoping your question requires us to presume that what'd we do if we had to choose voluntarily.

One makes an informed consent to a proposal when he/she is aware of all the facts about the situation and understands the consequences and repercussions of their decision.

If I were to make such a decision, I would not. What many of the viewers (suggested by the Insta story you've shared) are thinking in terms of is the on-screen chemistry of a particular couple, and other related factors. What they fail to understand is that it is fatally difficult to get into the sacred relationship of marriage with someone who has married you only for a certain promise and not for love. On top of that, if anyone in their right mind would know that the person they are marrying loves someone else, they would not go on to marry them. And, they SHOULD NOT. The relationship of a husband-wife, by its very nature, is built on the foundations of love, trust, companionship and understanding. And in a relationship like the one SaiRat have at the moment, I fail to see any of these constituents in entirety. To deprive a person of all of these, for their entire life is a very wrong thing to do. In shows, everything is romanticised so much that people are bound to see everything with rose-tinted glasses. We know that the lead couple is going to fall in love eventually, so even the smallest of their acts and gestures have a romantic meaning attached to them, for us. That is not the case in reality, and no one would like to literally spoil their entire life by entering into a relationship which has no future. I mean, we all crave love in one form or the other, romantic love being in the list of priorities for many of us. To live a life, devoid of that would be nothing short of misery.

However, coming to the second facet of this situation, i.e., what if we aren't given the liberty to make a choice and just have to get married to someone like Virat, who still has a lot of emotion baggage from his past, then in that case, the best thing, IMO would be to keep your limits defined, try to make yourself independent and get out of that relationship, or make it work. If luck's in your favour, maybe you'll have a story like SaI-Virat. Who knows.

Sorry for the rambling.

Cheers!

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: by_stander


YESSS... she just shared another one that has the same message as this. I am in a dilemma... I personally think the actress is doing a wonderful job with her performance, but Pakhi is not a character we should be condoning. I think I am gonna unfollow all these people for a while until I get my sanity back.



I am super curious now. You have to share the deets of this insta story for all of us who cannot read it online


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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhaChauhan

Hi! I am a silent reader on this forum and haven't been active here given certain work commitments etc. However, this question really got me thinking and here are my two cents.

The question you've posed is if we would marry someone like Virat in real life? IMO, for anyone to willingly put themselves into a labyrinth like this, that too after knowing everything sound absurd. While the protagonist of our show didn't have that liberty, I am hoping your question requires us to presume that what'd we do if we had to choose voluntarily.

One makes an informed consent to a proposal when he/she is aware of all the facts about the situation and understands the consequences and repercussions of their decision.

If I were to make such a decision, I would not. What many of the viewers (suggested by the Insta story you've shared) are thinking in terms of is the on-screen chemistry of a particular couple, and other related factors. What they fail to understand is that it is fatally difficult to get into the sacred relationship of marriage with someone who has married you only for a certain promise and not for love. On top of that, if anyone in their right mind would know that the person they are marrying loves someone else, they would not go on to marry them. And, they SHOULD NOT. The relationship of a husband-wife, by its very nature, is built on the foundations of love, trust, companionship and understanding. And in a relationship like the one SaiRat have at the moment, I fail to see any of these constituents in entirety. To deprive a person of all of these, for their entire life is a very wrong thing to do. In shows, everything is romanticised so much that people are bound to see everything with rose-tinted glasses. We know that the lead couple is going to fall in love eventually, so even the smallest of their acts and gestures have a romantic meaning attached to them, for us. That is not the case in reality, and no one would like to literally spoil their entire life by entering into a relationship which has no future. I mean, we all crave love in one form or the other, romantic love being in the list of priorities for many of us. To live a life, devoid of that would be nothing short of misery.

However, coming to the second facet of this situation, i.e., what if we aren't given the liberty to make a choice and just have to get married to someone like Virat, who still has a lot of emotion baggage from his past, then in that case, the best thing, IMO would be to keep your limits defined, try to make yourself independent and get out of that relationship, or make it work. If luck's in your favour, maybe you'll have a story like SaI-Virat. Who knows.

Sorry for the rambling.

Cheers!


Totally agree with what you have said. I hope it is just an onscreen chemistry thing, and not really because they think Pakhi is suffering and thus should have romance scenes with Virat because of the love they have for each other. I just noticed that the top four shows have something to do with EMA and/or love triangle. I guess this is the new trend that is getting all the trps. These shows are supposed to warn us of the consequences of immoral behavior, not influence our thoughts and actions. I am just hoping that people don't take the wrong messages from these shows!

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: by_stander

Would you guys really marry someone like Virat, given his confusing moral dilemma? Let's not bring his good looks here because I wanna strictly keep it to his personality. If you still see yourself spending the rest of your life with someone like Virat, then I would love to know your reasoning behind it.


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I only ask this question because this is not too far-fetched from reality, and people might like the character because he is the ML and has good looks, but we still have to keep our own values in check at times, and not digress into the fantasy of such a character. He has a questionable character and sadly, there are people like him in this world. And there are girls like Pakhi who take the words of such men as the ultimate truth, never move on, and suffer in their life.


I really want the makers to show suffering in Virat's life for his consequences that are relevant to real life. Not just that he has heartbreak, some drama, and BOOM now he is all forgiven for his actions and gets to live happily. There better be a track where he looks back at his actions and learns a lesson of not taking people's feelings so lightly and show remorse for his impulse decisions to Samrat, Pakhi, and Sai Moreover, a track with character growth in Pakhi where she learns to value herself and not scale her wishes and happiness on the hands of others.


For example, look at this IG story below, viewers are really asking for Virakhi romance without understanding the distortion of moral values? I don't take these seriously usually, but many people do get influenced by them.

https://www.instagram.com/stories/aisharma812/2466311940521945874/?hl=en

@bold I can understand that some people are virakhi shippers but dont get it why they keep for asking their romantic scenes when clearly virat married sai. youtubes videos also have same kinds of demands.....disturbing🤪

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: by_stander


Totally agree with what you have said. I hope it is just an onscreen chemistry thing, and not really because they think Pakhi is suffering and thus should have romance scenes with Virat because of the love they have for each other. I just noticed that the top four shows have something to do with EMA and/or love triangle. I guess this is the new trend that is getting all the trps. These shows are supposed to warn us of the consequences of immoral behavior, not influence our thoughts and actions. I am just hoping that people don't take the wrong messages from these shows!


The thing about EMA or any kind of immoral behavior is that people who commit or indulge in it always find reasons for it to rationalize it in their mind na. “He is with me because he loves me, not his wife”; so much that people actually justify cheating instead of straight away saying it’s wrong period. Certain things in life can be neither black or white, like let’s say why women stay in unhappy marriages for sake of children- this is a legit grey area (esp if there is no abuse, just unhappiness) but everything cannot be grey, there should be balance in everything. Some things must be right or wrong.


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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: by_stander


Totally agree with what you have said. I hope it is just an onscreen chemistry thing, and not really because they think Pakhi is suffering and thus should have romance scenes with Virat because of the love they have for each other.

I just noticed that the top four shows have something to do with EMA and/or love triangle. I guess this is the new trend that is getting all the trps. These shows are supposed to warn us of the consequences of immoral behavior, not influence our thoughts and actions. I am just hoping that people don't take the wrong messages from these shows!


True. One show showcasing one particular things does well, and lo and behold, every top production house wants to do the same. Can't blame them. They want the numbers, they want revenue and if this is what gets them that, they are for sure going to do so.


The dramas are to a certain extent a reflection of what's happening in the society, what the people like and so on, however, to be honest, I don't think we can really expect them to show all the righteous things. As viewers, at the end of the day, the onus falls upon us to decide what we take from a particular show and what we leave behind. Also, many people don't watch the dramas for a lesson. They just want an escape from the reality, and the dramas (rightly called so) give them just that needed escape.

However, from what I've observed from the limited content I have watched, people are certainly more drawn towards the grey and the black. You see, like you said, EMA is the trend of the popular shows these days. Show a docile, weak female lead getting bullied by a vicious vamp, you'll see that show topping the charts.

Still, hope this show tries to remedy those errors and not fall into the trap.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: columbia


The thing about EMA or any kind of immoral behavior is that people who commit or indulge in it always find reasons for it to rationalize it in their mind na. “He is with me because he loves me, not his wife”; so much that people actually justify cheating instead of straight away saying it’s wrong period. Certain things in life can be neither black or white, like let’s say why women stay in unhappy marriages for sake of children- this is a legit grey area (esp if there is no abuse, just unhappiness) but everything cannot be grey, there should be balance in everything. Some things must be right or wrong.


@bold YASS!! There are things that you just can not justify no matter what.

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