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Posted: 5 years ago
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agree with all points. Kamal Sir has pampered her way too much. That's why she's like this.

Sai misbehaving with Virat, who was her father's senior, was wrong on so many levels & yet she got away with it everytime bcoz Kamal didn't do jackshit to maker her understand basic human etiquettes.


Anyway Sai needs to start listening more, instead of talking & arguing all the time. Her outbursts are bordering on rudeness & disrespect.

And instead of telling anyone else to guide her, Virat himself should guide Sai. He knows his family, he knows Sai & he's a calm & patient person. Not to mention Sai takes Virat's word to heart.


Ashwini is useless in this matter bcoz she's only encouraging Sai's behaviour & as someone said, living vicariously through her.

Usha Maushi is another useless person, bcoz Sai doesn't take her seriously at all & shuts her up anyway.


Virat is the only one who can make Sai understand something. He uses both methods, by calming talking to her or being strict with her. lol He's literally doing Kamal Sir's job. No wonder he thinks she's an "immature bachchi". 😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: I-Am-SherLOCKED

Yup, this is her character flaw. Her hot-headedness comes with impulsivity. I tend to ignore her post-Aaba rudeness with Virat because that's totally understandable.

But her drawing conclusions from Virat's phone call was a tad unreasonable. I guess this is what Virat means by "maturity".


In that case he should have put Pakhi under the same immature category as she block his number the moment he said " who is this?..."

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tali_99


In that case he should have put Pakhi under the same immature category as she block his number the moment he said " who is this?..."


HAHA YES. 🤣

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Yes. Sai is impulsive and short tempered. She is an only child brought up her father who let her do things her way. But she clearly knows what is right and what is wrong. Sai had a fairly simple life with her dad...no family politics and not too many people in her life. Virat on the other hand grew up in huge family. He knows how delicate the balance is in a family. He keeps quiet when he has to and puts holds his own when required. It's not just about maturity but the environment in which he grew up. Sai is seeing all this for the first time. She is just being herself. She does not wish anyone harm but she has no filter. She draws quick conclusions and thinks she is right. But many people do this and she will learn with time.


Personally I don't think she is always wrong. Haven't watched the initial episodes but in some instances she isn't the only person wrong. Like in Devi's case. Why can't Virat tell her what happened ? Isn't it human that when Devi talks about her past Sai would ask her what happened ? Unlike Pakhi Sai doesn't just think of herself and her sad life. So why not just tell her if she is going to be there for 5 years instead of telling her to stay away ? Also can't blame her for the way she behaves with Pakhi. Sai knows about Virat and Pakhi and it is weird to her that Virat wants her to learn from Pakhi who isn't even clear about her own life. Wasn't she right in asking why Pakhi should help her in studying ? There are others in the family too like Aayi and Shivani but Virat pushes Pakhi on her every time. Not to mention the weird best friend status. She didn't know what was happening with Virat. In her usual demeanour she gave him food and he threw it off and she thought he was angry with her about the morning. He could have just told her it is stress at office. Also Sai should know what happened as it is related to her as well.


Not saying Sai is perfect but neither are the others. Definitely not Virat and Pakhi.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Great post. 👍🏼

In general we have many relations in life but there are a few very close to us. Sai had only her Aaba and she hasn't opened up to anyone other than him. If we divide the above mentioned incidents more than a half are concerned with her Aaba. Her life till her marriage revolved around him and she remained complaint with his parenting and excelled in her studies too. Of course she became rebellious at many instances but only when it is concerned with Kamal sir (first) & then herself. She was very closely attached and clearly had the fear of losing him because of the nature of his job.

And the remaining incidents are concerned with Virat (after her marriage with him). In this case, there is a third person in between (Pakhi) whose equation with her husband is made clear to her beforehand. Now there is that guilt feeling playing its part in her mind. 8 & 9 conclusions are mostly due to this. She might be immature, bachi etc. etc. but still she's a woman. Sai perceives herself as a major hindrance to their relationship/friendship or what ever it is. 😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
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What a lovely read this entire thread is. We all agree that Sai has her own character flaws, which make her real.

Well, we dislike the "maturity" lecture by Virat mainly because the yardstick he is looking at (PP 🤢) is not the best example of maturity. But is Sai really immature as Virat says? To an extent, yes. One of her major problems is "knee jerk reactions". She just HAS to argue to win an argument. Sometimes, you do not need to win arguments and silence can be the best answer. She needs to choose people who she should be wasting her words and mind on and learn to ignore those who are not worthy of even reactions.

And it has got nothing to do with her age. I am sure we all know 50-year-olds who behave exactly like Sai. Aur kahin kya jaana - Bhavani ko hi dekh lo. But Sai has the advantage of having years on her side. She is young and can still find the right ways to expend all that energy she has for getting into arguments instead of turning like another Bhavani at her age. She does make presumptions and remains rigid at that. But I also think many times, she knows she's being offensive and it is on purpose. Offence is the best defence: especially when you have to protect yourself.

I think we are yet to see "layers" to Sai's character. So far, she comes across as a one-dimensional angry young woman, blasting off everyone around her but a soft-hearted fiercely loyal one to those she calls her own. It will be so interesting to see her coming out of her nature to squabble for unnecessary things. Like, "Aap bhookhi kyun marengi? Main aapko khana de rahi hoon na". It was an immature retort and avoidable.

Also, what she needs to learn is to gauge the inside out of a person -- she goes by instinct and is right most of the times, but sometimes, it is necessary to observe a person and their behaviour before deciding what kind of approach is needed to 'tackle'. You can't always win by opening your mouth brashly. I think although Kamal Joshi tried to discipline her, he did not try to rein her in. Virat's constant complaint with her is "watch what you speak" or "react in your limit". He is not trying to rein her --lagaam kasna-- but is trying to get her to be tactful. Sometimes, tact requires diplomacy more than a sharp tongue.

And Sai, well she DOES need a guide. And that guide can only be Virat. In fact, they don't know but he already is.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

What a lovely read this entire thread is. We all agree that Sai has her own character flaws, which make her real.

Well, we dislike the "maturity" lecture by Virat mainly because the yardstick he is looking at (PP 🤢) is not the best example of maturity. But is Sai really immature as Virat says? To an extent, yes. One of her major problems is "knee jerk reactions". She just HAS to argue to win an argument. Sometimes, you do not need to win arguments and silence can be the best answer. She needs to choose people who she should be wasting her words and mind on and learn to ignore those who are not worthy of even reactions.

And it has got nothing to do with her age. I am sure we all know 50-year-olds who behave exactly like Sai. Aur kahin kya jaana - Bhavani ko hi dekh lo. But Sai has the advantage of having years on her side. She is young and can still find the right ways to expend all that energy she has for getting into arguments instead of turning like another Bhavani at her age. She does make presumptions and remains rigid at that. But I also think many times, she knows she's being offensive and it is on purpose. Offence is the best defence: especially when you have to protect yourself.

I think we are yet to see "layers" to Sai's character. So far, she comes across as a one-dimensional angry young woman, blasting off everyone around her but a soft-hearted fiercely loyal one to those she calls her own. It will be so interesting to see her coming out of her nature to squabble for unnecessary things. Like, "Aap bhookhi kyun marengi? Main aapko khana de rahi hoon na". It was an immature retort and avoidable.

Also, what she needs to learn is to gauge the inside out of a person -- she goes by instinct and is right most of the times, but sometimes, it is necessary to observe a person and their behaviour before deciding what kind of approach is needed to 'tackle'. You can't always win by opening your mouth brashly. I think although Kamal Joshi tried to discipline her, he did not try to rein her in. Virat's constant complaint with her is "watch what you speak" or "react in your limit". He is not trying to rein her --lagaam kasna-- but is trying to get her to be tactful. Sometimes, tact requires diplomacy more than a sharp tongue.

And Sai, well she DOES need a guide. And that guide can only be Virat. In fact, they don't know but he already is.

Great post! I just wanted to add something that may be true. One of the reasons for Sai being so hot headed and brash could be that she had to deal with someone like Jagtap for so long. As far as I recall, Jagtap and his gang had been troubling her for quite some time. If she was meek and quiet, then she couldn’t have handled him. The only problem is that one doesn’t realise when they start behaving like that with everyone, and that’s what might’ve happened with her.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nutella03

Great post! I just wanted to add something that may be true. One of the reasons for Sai being so hot headed and brash could be that she had to deal with someone like Jagtap for so long. As far as I recall, Jagtap and his gang had been troubling her for quite some time. If she was meek and quiet, then she couldn’t have handled him. The only problem is that one doesn’t realise when they start behaving like that with everyone, and that’s what might’ve happened with her.

Oh yes that is the point. She's seen too much in life too young without a mother around her. The reason I mentioned offence is defence is this very reason. She knows she has to protect herself. Because she was always threatened with 'tere baap ko maar dunga' by Jagtap, most of the times she tried to protect herself without even telling Aaba. So it's second nature to her to tick people off with her tongue and keep them at an arm's length. She doesn't do it to insult people intentionally as much as to fob them off.

I am sure Virat will realise that soon.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Eternized_Blues

You are absolutely right. Being an only child of a single parent she has been spoiled ever though her father has done a good job teaching wrong from the right but the execution of her thoughts does not consider another person's feeling.

She also does not apologize. Viraat even mentioned the "Sorry is a small word to say" to her when he brought her father's replacement but she completely ignored him. Sai thinks she is right all the time and everyone is wrong.


I agree with what you said and would like to add a few more points.

I wouldn't say she doesn't apologize...she actually did apologize after Virat sanctioned Kamal's VRS. I think she was completely embarrassed about how she acted when he brought Kamal's replacement because she was wrong and couldn't apologize in front of everyone. Her inclination is always to be vocal and loud is probably due to her upbringing and the situations she had to deal with.

First being raised by a single parent, like you mentioned, that too by a police officer dad, she didn't get the household discipline that children normally learn from their mom. The teachings he got from his dad was more about being truthful and honest, probably very little about actual social etiquettes. Moreover, being a victim of assault from the age of 15 is not something you can fight by being vulnerable and timid. So basically, when normal teenagers learn manners and such she was battling harassment from goons. I imagine if she was soft-spoken and scared then Jagtap would have done something worse with her sooner, but since she was so outspoken and fearless, he didn't have the guts to go beyond harassing her. I was happy to see that she put up a real fight when she was getting kidnapped. THANK GOD she didn't go scream "bacahooo" as we see in many ITV dramas and just let them take her away.

Now that her environment has changed and has a real family to mingle with after her marriage, I am hoping that makers will show her character growth. She will gradually learn the value and importance of family. Just being outspoken and loud will not work all the time, especially with people you love and care about. At least, they kept her character flaws consistent with how she was raised. I would have found it a little weird and unbelievable if she had just become this obedient bahu in just two days of her marriage.

On a completely different note, Sai's character reminds me a lot of "Suhana" from "Sasural Genda Phool." It was my first ever drama, and I always see a glimpse of Shuhana and Ishaan in Sai and Virat in terms of how Ishaan calmly diffused Suhana's anger and childishness, just like Virat does with Sai. The characters are all poles apart, but they have a lot of similarities in how they handle their marital relationship.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nutella03

Great post! I just wanted to add something that may be true. One of the reasons for Sai being so hot headed and brash could be that she had to deal with someone like Jagtap for so long. As far as I recall, Jagtap and his gang had been troubling her for quite some time. If she was meek and quiet, then she couldn’t have handled him. The only problem is that one doesn’t realise when they start behaving like that with everyone, and that’s what might’ve happened with her.

great point . I really appreciate you for thinking on these lines

This very point talks very much about Sai's way of defending herself

I just hope now that virat heals all of her scars with his love

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