Pyaar Ke Sadqay #2 Bilal Abbas Khan, Yumna Zaidi, Omair Rana - Page 8

Originally posted by: Bhatakti_atma

Nahi unhone dikhai nahi sahi se. So lets see hua kya hai

Hmmm i hope na hi kaye hoon sign

Originally posted by: Bhatakti_atma

Then they showed it in a completely wrong way. It just reinforces the bias that good woman will do khidmat while the bad westernised woman will refrain from it. Care is something both partners need to show for one another. Care is more like may be Mahjabeen offering to press his head when he is feeling sick. Or Abdullah applying the medicine on her foot. Not Mah trying to take off his shoes. Abdullah says mujhe acha lagega agar wo karogi tum . That means he didn't actually mind it.

I understand ...but we know abdullah never liked mahjabeen doing this kinda khidmat of him...he even not used to let her press his shirt ...it was mahjabeen who forcefully love doing this all so i believe what abdullah mean't was the care and attention mahjabeen used to give him!!

Originally posted by: amaya01

I understand ...but we know abdullah never liked mahjabeen doing this kinda khidmat of him...he even not used to let her press his shirt ...it was mahjabeen who forcefully love doing this all so i believe what abdullah mean't was the care and attention mahjabeen used to give him!!

Yeah but ache se dikhana chahye tha. It is the fault of the makers

Originally posted by: Bhatakti_atma

Yeah but ache se dikhana chahye tha. It is the fault of the makers

Yeah i agree !!

They could hv shown it in a better way!!

Amna in latest episode of something haute has confirmed that only five episodes are left..and the way she described abdullah's character is amazing !!

Originally posted by: amaya01

I felt what abdullah meant was the "care" I mean he likes the care and love mahjabeen used to give him...the choice of word" khidmat " is wrong TBH ...in flashbacks they showed Abdullah never enjoyed mahjabeen doing his courses ...both shanzay and Mahjabeen were motivating Abdullah but he felt happy after hearing those words from mahjabeen not shanzay ...this shows whom his heart belongs !!

The term 'khidmat' is subjecive i think ... If ones parent says ' isne meri khidmat ki' we will not take any offence to that and i dont think its offensive if ones husband says this about his wife... Its a term to show appreciation i think ...it means 'serve' but not necessarily calling someone a servant

I have not seen the episode yet so i dont know how Abdullah has said it

even 5 epis sounds too much lol

Originally posted by: Bhatakti_atma

It was a slow but good episode. Nothing great happened but Washma got to know everything and gladly she went to her mom who is the biggest fool on this earth. She annoys me more than Sarwar actually. What a spineless character god.

I wish pho was also involved.

Liked the 'ap to maths me waise bhi bandar ho ' scene. It's nice to see that in flashbacks they r showing us new scenes instead of repeating the old ones. But yeah one thing was he just remembers her bcz of the khidmat she did? Is that all? Doesn't he love her for her other things? Also, shanzay was not wrong in saying khidmat ki expectations kyu hai. Shanzay is an otherwise strong girl and has correct views. Apart from she breaking their marriage and stuff she is a bold and a critical character. But unfortunately our society will cast her as the bad girl who doesn't work for her husband, who said no to a guy as if women already don't do enough labour that is unappreciated and unrecognised and that women should never say no or that they don't have a choice. I like her character but she is a home breaker and an opportunist. But her values and approach are demonized by these stupid stereotypes of our society. Her analogy was horrible. But the point was fine

I cannot agree more. That scene was so cringey! Like office se ayega toh biwi khiddmat karein and when Shanzey asks him if he will give her foot massage he gets shocked. Kyu bhai.. And khiddmat is all you need toh kaamwali rakh lo. 😝

Ok managed to watch the episode

Mansoora: what a selfish and vain woman ! She said she married Sarwar for her kids and business but infact it was always about her and still is ...her kids are not happy with Sarwar ..Sarwar has been stealing from the office ..Mansoora just does not care ... She wants Sarwar and thats all she cares for without any concern for her children ...she even cheated on her sister in law who was actually was suppose to marry Sarwar ...and Sarwar left Po for his greed yet Mansoora fails to acknowledge that

She was no guilt for slapping her daughter for Sarwar ..didnt even shed a tear her daughter said their relationship has ended

Shanzay ...she thinks Abduallah loves her ..obviously because he has been crazy for her ...and had told her that he married Mahjabeen to support her ..nothing more ...but i think Shanzay will eventually realise he loves Mahjabeen ..because she has been noticing his concern for Mahjabeen but at the moment she thinks its guilt because Abdullah is a nice guy..she will realise its not guilt but love ..its a possibility that she will leave him

i think Abdullah too is in process of realising that he is in love with Mahjabeen ..

Now the whole 'khidmat' issue ..i think alot of people are misinterpreting it and exaggerating the meaning ... Abdullah has been a loner with no one taking care of his need ..not even his mother ..he doesnt need Mahjabeen to take his shoes off etc he never forced her infact he has always stopped her ..he is not a male chauvinist ..he is clearly referring to the care Mahjabeen showed him ..she even showed cared that his fingers would be hurting because of all the typing ...i really feel this 'feminism' is messing up mindset of people ...and should be used where required ..where a woman is being abused ...not where a woman is willingly doing things to please her loved ones ..like i said before you would not question a father saying my daughter is doing my khidmat ..you really have to see where the words are coming from and what intentions the person had and whether their actions reflect the same

Anyways thats my opinion

Oh i think Yumna acted well ..she wasnt 'trying' to look innocent therefore it looked more natural to me

Originally posted by: M.A.K123

Ok managed to watch the episode

Mansoora: what a selfish and vain woman ! She said she married Sarwar for her kids and business but infact it was always about her and still is ...her kids are not happy with Sarwar ..Sarwar has been stealing from the office ..Mansoora just does not care ... She wants Sarwar and thats all she cares for without any concern for her children ...she even cheated on her sister in law who was actually was suppose to marry Sarwar ...and Sarwar left Po for his greed yet Mansoora fails to acknowledge that

She was no guilt for slapping her daughter for Sarwar ..didnt even shed a tear her daughter said their relationship has ended

Shanzay ...she thinks Abduallah loves her ..obviously because he has been crazy for her ...and had told her that he married Mahjabeen to support her ..nothing more ...but i think Shanzay will eventually realise he loves Mahjabeen ..because she has been noticing his concern for Mahjabeen but at the moment she thinks its guilt because Abdullah is a nice guy..she will realise its not guilt but love ..its a possibility that she will leave him

i think Abdullah too is in process of realising that he is in love with Mahjabeen ..

Now the whole 'khidmat' issue ..i think alot of people are misinterpreting it and exaggerating the meaning ... Abdullah has been a loner with no one taking care of his need ..not even his mother ..he doesnt need Mahjabeen to take his shoes off etc he never forced her infact he has always stopped her ..he is not a male chauvinist ..he is clearly referring to the care Mahjabeen showed him ..she even showed cared that his fingers would be hurting because of all the typing ...i really feel this 'feminism' is messing up mindset of people ...and should be used where required ..where a woman is being abused ...not where a woman is willingly doing things to please her loved ones ..like i said before you would not question a father saying my daughter is doing my khidmat ..you really have to see where the words are coming from and what intentions the person had and whether their actions reflect the same

Anyways thats my opinion

Oh i think Yumna acted well ..she wasnt 'trying' to look innocent therefore it looked more natural to me

Sorry i disagree with your two points.

1. If Abdullah was referring to the caring aspect, he should have used a better phrase. Director should have used a better scene or conversation.. May be where abdullah was not feeling well or he was late to get home and Mahajabeen was worried. Then again, to expect Mahajabeen's positives in Shanzey when he is with shanzey and expect Shanzey's positive in mahajabeen when he was with her is selfish. Why compare the women who are as different as apples and oranges. The scene shown in the drama has been shown directly and indirectly in multiple dramas since decades. Where the modern jeans wearing girl is vampish and the one who agrees to whatever her husband says, never argues, wears traditional cloyhes is sati savitri. It is high time this false notion is put away. Propogation of this idea is what was cringey in today's episode.

2. "i really feel this 'feminism' is messing up mindset of people ...and should be used where required ..where a woman is being abused ...not where a woman is willingly doing things to please her loved ones ."

Clearly not. Sometimes people get oppressed and abused without even knowing it themselves. Someone looking at it from outside the relationship sees what the one in doesn't see. Lot of women are taught that once they have kids, ifanaging career and kids get difficult they should quit job. When you hear this throughout your life, when such a moment of decision making comes, they quit the job part-willingly. That's because no one ever showed them another option.. May be she could work part time, may be husband could quit his job, may be they work different shifts to run the house. But because of the decades and decades of conditioning, the option of quitting job comes naturally.

100 years ago, when someone's husband died, the wife lit herself on his pyre in the name of Sati,some of them willingly....50yrs ago, after the husband died, wife was supposed to spend the life without any colors and celebrations in the name of love & devotion for her husband... 10yrs ago, if a girl said No to a guy, it was supposedly considered true love if he wrote love letter in blood. In all these examples, the time and evolutionary level of the society drove what was considered 'normal' and what actions/decisions were made willingly.

Husband should not be expecting the wife to pick up his shoes, massage his feet etc as a daily chore. Especially never ask her to do it (which Abdullah did). If he does expect her to, then he should be more than ready to return the favor to his wife as well.

Father and Husband are not a great comparison. Because father-daughtet relationship is not that of equals. Father is always above the daughter in terms of relation, age, discipline whereas husband and wife are equals. Whatever a husband expects wife to do, he should be ready to do it for her. In any equal relationship, if you reverse the genders and the expectation or the request holds good, then that's equality.

Also, Father asking his daughter to do khiddmat is not okay if he doesn't ask the same from his son.