What is the big deal about ONS?

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Hi all,

What I dont get is why are everybody upset about ons between JM? I mean its just one more to the long list of JW accomplishments😉, so why the big deal about JM? Its not really his fault is it, that he has a horrible sister who is plotting to you-know-what with meera. Poor him as always get trapped in all the schemes around him, tsk tsk😭. St.Bani will forgive him as always for everything, so why the big protest here.

Why are ppl talking as if JW is some victorian virgin 😕? I am tired of him playing the victim, to be honest i sympathize with him as he cannot even do anything without ppl plotting for him 😭. Poor him even in this raging bull attire he is taking the whupping from others ( Pri, i mean it i am so sorry for your munna ) Well another question is is abusing the weaker ppl make a person raging bull? I mean is this the real raging bull, he looks more weak to me than others

Another part on this serial is cheap, ofcourse it is, its been cheap for very long, but why do we forget thats want ppl want, becoz the trp raises thats why we get such crap. I mean I have myself seen that ppl want JW and Bani to have a ons instead of JM, i mean why does everything boiling down to this, i mean isnt their more to marriage than just this 🤢. I used to fight with my bro that only men are like this but looks like i am totally wrong and i have to apologize to him( no offence meant to men or women) because the max population who watch k-serial are woman and this is what they want too ( by the trps i guess). I dont know if it k-serial creatives or the ppl who watch it to blame for this state of KS.

Honestly I am not for JM at all, but i am neither for JB, becoz after so much of abuse of bani i rather she move on ( not with another man) but there is so much to life other than men sex and marriage 😕, the same applies to walia, why are they showing as if he jumps from one woman to another in no time 🤢, wassup with the revenge and physical abuse, i thought JW was par all that ?

Just my rambling, ignore me

Regards

Anju

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Hmmmm,

I am going to be as objective as I can to answer your question.

Most women (not all) want to see themselves as the female protagonist. They feel the pain of the heroine, the joys, the sorrows and imagine themselves as the repressed, oppressed, suppressed lady in distress.

SO the 'Other woman' is not going to be given much sympathy and looked at as the 'Woh' in Pati, patni aur Woh.

In this case, Bani has been with Jai from the beginning (Fell in love in a classical M&B fashion) - so now the other woman even touching him, makes people distressed and unhappy.

So JW was a philanderer and a casanova from the beginning, but he changed after his marriage to Bani. Being tall, dark, handsome and a rake is fine as long as he was not attached, people loved it, admired it, drooled over him. Now that he is officially tied, it would be a bit hard for people to see him go back to original avatar.

His single days are over, and no one will appreciate him going back again (Unless he becomes a widower and after a decent period of mourning, of course also if you are not 'Pri'... 😉 Just kidding Pri..)

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Posted: 17 years ago
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I searched for the word "whup", and I've ended up finding this post! 😳

My patented terminology rulesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss 😃

Anyways, I have to say that I agree with this post... the way I see it, it really is no big deal at all - not the slightest. Walia has a already got a masters in bedding different women, and now with the abuse, he is looking to convert his previous work into a PhD.

I have to say that I think that the negetive version of Walia is a lot more entertaining to watch than good guy version (that always came across as mentally paralysed due to his inability to stand up against any whuppins)... but the flip side of that that he person takes a knock - as Basanthi Devi has implied, Walia comes across as a loser... but in a different way to before.

God bless.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Mango,

I forgot to add you as a one more person who would like Walia the womanizer.... 😆 😆 😆 Pri, my friend is agreeing with tongue in cheek, but you, my bro, are a hard read.

Coming from a self declared brahmachari, that sounds funny!! 😉 😉 As such, you need a lot more insight into women, who are the majority viewers... 😉
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Posted: 17 years ago
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*Gasp!* 😲

Shoba Di, you forgot to mention me... I mean, ME?! hehehehe.

I think you've actually got me wrong on this one... I'm not saying that Walia should go around bedding every lady in sight! 😆

Instead, I'm just saying that I don't see what the big deal is because it won't have been the first time that he's 'played away from home' 😳 The first time something like that happens, it establishes the fact that the character is no longer squeeky clean... and the show lived through that, and so I don't see why the show wouldn't live through another round of him not being with Bani. In real life, of course it would be terrible... but I don't (and cannot for that matter) ever see KS as anything beyond a fictional story - it's characters are as relevent to me as the characters in Jack in the Beanstalk... and so I just think about things from the standpoint of entertainment and drama, rather than anything else.

I do prefer the version of Walia with the mean edge to him because at least he isn't getting steamrolled like he used to get before the leap. This time he is handing out the whuppins instead! 😃

But no, I don't like the abuse he is giving to Meera - I've never been in favour of things like mental torture and domestic violence and stuff like that. I would prefer Walia to restrict the negetivity towards his dushmans - possibly in business and stuff like that.

As for the insight into women... I kinda stopped bothering with that about 5 years ago! 😆 Apun jaisa hi hai, waisa 'ij rahega 😃

God bless.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sheena_Row

Hmmmm,

I am going to be as objective as I can to answer your question.

Most women (not all) want to see themselves as the female protagonist. They feel the pain of the heroine, the joys, the sorrows and imagine themselves as the repressed, oppressed, suppressed lady in distress.

shoba akka,

I know what you are trying to tell, if it happens once then it is pain or mistake, how many times it has happened, how many times other have plotted for walia to drop his ...., i mean from pia to ad to jigs and karuna, i mean over and over again they have used him and abused him. I dont even know if it is their fault. Wife what wife, to the world it is Meera who is the wife, you see why she is nice, more than bani ppl will sympathize with Meera. becoz all she is doing is playing bani junior ( sorry pri ek kam thi ki doosari aaagayee).

Woman identify themselves with bani and meera 😳 really!!! How ? how many of us are married to 20 yr older men who sleep with one's sister ? how many of us go behind husband back and play the bond ? how many of us lose so many babies and yet stay together ? I dont know becoz I dont see one situation of hers matching with mine ? How can I identify bani with myself she is alien to me 😭? That what i told pri that she was playing ( potryaing) us, but then I cannot talk for others

SO the 'Other woman' is not going to be given much sympathy and looked at as the 'Woh' in Pati, patni aur Woh.

Ok Jai walia married meera for name sake, he didnot get a divorce to bani ben, so its illegal, right? Legality and illegality are the last thing in ones mind. When one is bound in a relationshoip of heart such things matter the most, not the legality of the relationship. To any woman he married again, should make him jerk enough to move away from him Am i wrong with that ? becoz if he truly loved bani enough he wont let her go so soon and jump to another woman even for name sake


In this case, Bani has been with Jai from the beginning (Fell in love in a classical M&B fashion) - so now the other woman even touching him, makes people distressed and unhappy.

yes, di i agree that it was very M and B fashion, other woman touching him, well what is the need to show his touching is my ? whether its bani or meera doesnot matter, some things can be expressed without actually being so graphical. Touch or no touch the crime is commited, there is no way back so isnt it better to move on with life than hang to the only thing one knows ? Is this even love? I mean didnot the god tell them in so many different ways they are not bound together, they have had 4 children, and out of which 3 died, there is no guarantee for ganga, so you know its the way of indication that they are better of without each other


So JW was a philanderer and a casanova from the beginning, but he changed after his marriage to Bani. Being tall, dark, handsome and a rake is fine as long as he was not attached, people loved it, admired it, drooled over him. Now that he is officially tied, it would be a bit hard for people to see him go back to original avatar.

Philanderer and casanova, well i cannot agree but will let it be😕, the day bani walked into his life, i think that day things changed, (2nd episode). Well you know what, they get used to it sigh, we got used to new tulsi, new shiv we will get used to new bani with name change 😕

His single days are over, and no one will appreciate him going back again (Unless he becomes a widower and after a decent period of mourning, of course also if you are not 'Pri'... 😉 Just kidding Pri..)

Are you kidding me, anything they have done with Walia after the tie up with bani made him worse,

Lord Mangeshwar ji,

I do agree with the fact that JW has a black spot what is the big deal with having any other, see thats what i meant what is the big deal wiht ons. The dude was married at 40 then produced 5 children with 2 different woman, and what is the big deal if he has one more with another one, its not as if its totally new , we just have to accept that , its how walia is

P.S I am sorry if it was a bit rude, though I didnot mean it to be rude, Forgive me if i have upset you in anyways (both shoba akka and lord)

Edited by basanthi - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Anju,

We are not talking about the educated, employed women here who are going to whup (Sorry, Mango - I had to borrow that word) their hubbies for any such harkat.

As far as the love story a la M&B style, why do you think most of us came to watch this show? Except for a minority of viewers (I can count them on my fingers) who said they came because of the three sisters show, they came to see a simple, middle class girl falling for an older, debonaire, suave man who has oodles and oodles of money.

Most of us have arranged marriages, young men who had to struggle in their early part of lives and become successful later. This is the imagination and dream of all girls.

Would I stay with a person who had an affair with my sister? If he had no idea that he sired a father and he was molested (Male rape does happen), and if I loved him a lot, I would.

Would I let him say stupid stuff to me in front of public, no! I think not!

You and Mango are arguing the case as if, Walia had oodles of affairs after his marriage, he did not! Or was I mistaken? So how can you ask a married man to have a physical relationship whether it's a one night stand or multiple night stand. Especially, when the guy clearly has feelings for his ex-wife. Why would you wish that on poor Meera?

Meera's relationship with Walia is slightly complicated. I understand she is not another of his girl friends so things are different....
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sheena_Row

Anju,

We are not talking about the educated, employed women here who are going to whup (Sorry, Mango - I had to borrow that word) their hubbies for any such harkat.

di education has nothing to do with morals, highly educated men can be immoral same applies to woman. I disagree with you, woman however uneducated they are cannot take this kind of crap, ofcourse they come on roads after leaving the pati, but still they will sting all the time

As far as the love story a la M&B style, why do you think most of us came to watch this show? Except for a minority of viewers (I can count them on my fingers) who said they came because of the three sisters show, they came to see a simple, middle class girl falling for an older, debonaire, suave man who has oodles and oodles of money.

ok I read a lot of M and Bs, but defintely I dont see myself as bani ever, young marrying a middle class man wiht lot of money 😕

Most of us have arranged marriages, young men who had to struggle in their early part of lives and become successful later. This is the imagination and dream of all girls.

ok i could never marry a snob like that, i rather have somebody who struggle and i be with him in the struggle, like i said it is just me and my friends i guess 😆


Would I stay with a person who had an affair with my sister? If he had no idea that he sired a father and he was molested (Male rape does happen), and if I loved him a lot, I would.

I know what you mean, but could you forgive him for hiding the truth from you ? I have honestly no problem in ppl making mistakes as long as they can own it up, and do the right thing becoz in this life everybody makes mistakes not a big deal, the way they handle is a big deal and ones morals and values are tested then, once you can be stupid not all the time di, i would never buy that. He has a phd in hiding and sweeping things under carpet. Can you ever trust him ? is love the only thing necessary for a marraige, i dont think so more than love trust is, you know that,

Would I let him say stupid stuff to me in front of public, no! I think not!

glad phew !! for a sec you got me worried, would you buy the mental asylum reason ?


You and Mango are arguing the case as if, Walia had oodles of affairs after his marriage, he did not! Or was I mistaken?

You got it totally wrong di, we have no problem in him having an affair we just expect him to be man enough to tell the truth than be whupped ( sorry Mango i included you in the answer forgive me) by every other into blackmail series

So how can you ask a married man to have a physical relationship whether it's a one night stand or multiple night stand. Especially, when the guy clearly has feelings for his ex-wife. Why would you wish that on poor Meera?

oh i would never wish the walia curse on anybody😆, we are not asking him to have any, we are just asking what is the halla about it, he hide then he can hide now what is the big deal thats what we are telling

We are asking why are you guys wishing that on poor bani, didnot she have enough abuse already 😆


Meera's relationship with Walia is slightly complicated. I understand she is not another of his girl friends so things are different...

yep that makes the mattes worse she is junior bani ji

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Edited by basanthi - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I am a bani brigadier, so this comes as a shock to myself.

(oh i would never wish the walia curse on anybody, we are not asking him to have any, we are just asking what is the halla about it, he hide then he can hide now what is the big deal thats what we are telling)

You are judging him harshly, he loved his wife, he did not intentionally have an affair with Pia, he hid the facts (yes, stupid man), but only because he was too scared of losing the one relationship that he treasures the most.

So the Halla is about a man having an affair or ONS with someone when he clearly loves another. Now, that is what I consider amoral....

I respect him for not sleeping with Meera, I would have respected him a lot more for not marrying her. 😆 in the first place.

Morals are very easy to preach, hard to practice - and each to their own. Circumstances do make a man/woman to succumb to things -

So from my side, it's simple, no ONS, no affair, no sleeping around until the man figures out his feelings for his first wife.

As for your earlier statements about girls and their dreams, lot of young girls do dream about marrying a rich , successful guy -

I am a woman who has a successful career, my husband and I came to this country with just our education and not much else. We are both successful now, and enjoyed the path we took to get where we are.

Dreams are dreams, reality is reality. People don't watch serials thinking that everything in the soap is their life, they just imagine for that half an hour and forget it later. 😳
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sheena_Row

I am a bani brigadier, so this comes as a shock to myself.

(oh i would never wish the walia curse on anybody, we are not asking him to have any, we are just asking what is the halla about it, he hide then he can hide now what is the big deal thats what we are telling)

You are judging him harshly, he loved his wife, he did not intentionally have an affair with Pia, he hid the facts (yes, stupid man), but only because he was too scared of losing the one relationship that he treasures the most.

No Di, I am not judging him wrong, he has done this over and over again and again, but then like you said my expecations might be higher, but yeah to each their own.

So the Halla is about a man having an affair or ONS with someone when he clearly loves another. Now, that is what I consider amoral....

then he should not have married, what he is doing to meera is immoral too, you know the only fact about bani is she loves the dude, so she has not gone ahead and married another inspite of in love with walia, well she had her half marriage and quater marriage but then they walia has real marriage now, but still gives her more points than this dude. you see he loved pia when he married bani, and for a long time he didnot know what his feelings were for bani, even when he slept with her, ( well i didnot see him say i love you, he thought it was a mistake) so can i say he was immoral in keeping the marriage with bani then ?


I respect him for not sleeping with Meera, I would have respected him a lot more for not marrying her. 😆 in the first place.

err, well married period sleep or not i dont care 😉 sleep is secondary for me


Morals are very easy to preach, hard to practice - and each to their own. Circumstances do make a man/woman to succumb to things -

yes they are but what is ethically right is the same everywhere, i know once you can succumb you dont do it again and again, thats what makes u immoral


So from my side, it's simple, no ONS, no affair, no sleeping around until the man figures out his feelings for his first wife.

I cannot see physical abuse of anykind, sorry he almost kills her with physical abuse

As for your earlier statements about girls and their dreams, lot of young girls do dream about marrying a rich , successful guy -

Like is said i have no problems with dreams, i just pointed out i am not one of them ? thats all,

I am a woman who has a successful career, my husband and I came to this country with just our education and not much else. We are both successful now, and enjoyed the path we took to get where we are.

Dreams are dreams, reality is reality. People don't watch serials thinking that everything in the soap is their life, they just imagine for that half an hour and forget it later. 😳

OK I only think from a moralistic point of view, i dont dream i mean i dont want to have nightmares of walia😉 , maybe hrithik roshan😉,😆

Edited by basanthi - 17 years ago

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