Sushpective: A Deserving Queen and a Real King! - Page 6

Originally posted by: chicksoup

Sorry, Sush.

Late Kate today.😳

I got to watch the epi very late- just 3 hours back and it was a busy day. Glad to see the thread rolling...

Lots of nice comments and a fun read. Thank U all of U guys. Hope the epis keep inspiring people like this.

Zee has got one screw loose😡 ..They should have promoted the sword fight with the patriotic dialogues, instead of the stupid suhaag raat! 😆 I am sure more people would have tuned in to see that.

After reading all the wonderful comments, nothing much to add..

I loved that dialogue Gaytri said in the previous episode to chachiji- Aap hamesha kuchh chhipathi hai- 👏- Girl has sensed that in her subconscious...A real Detective in making! 😉

BRM- I felt she was impressed with Gayatri' sspeech , right up till she realised what it brought on in its wake...The precap shows her happy with Gayatri..I hope she has buried the hatchet.

I liked the way Gayatri and Swarna traced the sword...But I felt they dragged that scene a bit too long...when Ranaji is getting defeated in the duel, who has the time to bend down and pick up the moti! Just see the moti and run to the next one the next time, girls!😆

The dwandayudh- duel was pretty nicely done. Wilky is a pathetic actor.🥱 I didn't find it odd that the Raja missed his sword...He is used to a particular weapon...I can find the easiest analog with cricketers being comfy with a particular bat...as would be Tennis players and others too, I guess.

They did a good job with Swarna's dialogue that the weapon is like an extension of his body to a warrior... And they made Wilky look bad when he attacked a defenseless man on the ground...It was not a fight until death battle..A duel such as this would have some rules too.. .

Gayatri's dialogues and Eurocentrism- 😳- I was reminded of the discussion here and the video I shared. Yes, they have done their research well. 👏

The best part of the epi- Indeed, Ranaji's looks of admiration towards Gayatri...however short lasting that may be...he was back to akdu mode in the precap.😆 I love this Director- He seems to be bringing out the best in Sid.👏 Even I don't get this mystery behind shuffling directors...4L used to do it often between their shows...Zee could be doing the same too..There are a lot of new shows coming in Zee and they might be distributing their talent- who knows!

I have an entirely diff theory as to why Nissar may not be around anymore.

Originally posted by: -Sush-

Ha ha...I bring up your beauty sleep ...because may be I really love your company Bhavi...and feel like your beauty sleep is keeping us from it...😛😉😳 Easy one to blame...even if that is not the reason...Just like BRM always blames...RM ...doesnt matter what the problem is...😆

.OK...going to check your update and will update this post...

Update: OK...loved your take...😃! You said it well my friend...Both leads are shown to be very virtuous...I feel like this must be a dream...You know specially after going through a barage of MLs, who have been far less...one even delibertaley caused an anaphylactic shock to the FL...and tried to pretend to burn her family down alive...🤢 Remember? The other one left her out to sleep in the courtyard after the wedding, the same one asking her to get out of the car...and left her at a remote place at night in Delhi...depraved indiffernce is what I called it...What a nice change to see decency...and my point...you dont have to love a person to be decent to them...it is about who you are...

Yup...I agree about the gesture...saying I GOT THIS...out of place...they are not there yet as a couple...

Chick and Darcyfan...coming back to your posts!

Originally posted by: BertieWooster

Hello,

Nice analysis and wonderful images! Thank you for them!

Truly wonderful episode yesterday. Ranaji wore that regal air that he was born to so well. Despite being a commoner, Rani ji matched him in attitude.

Am really liking Ranaji's transformation from the grieving widower lost in his past to a responsible king who is courteous to his wife and mindful of her honor, even if he may have not yet given her a place in his heart.

It became clear yesterday that the first seed of regard had been sown in his heart. Mighty pleased that it was a result of shared ideals rather than pure animal instinct.

The fact that he was piqued by her laughter in the previous episode is proof of the fact that Ranaji is not completely indifferent to her. That was not just a king reacting, but more so a man! Even if he is not likely to admit to it for quite some time to come, and will do his best to fight it even, the fact remains that his Rani has intrigued him.

Looking forward to seeing how his defense slowly crumbles and he gives his queen her rightful authority over his heart as well!

The fly in the ointment so far as I go is the editing and also the loud background score. Wish they would realize that the treatment cannot be that of a typical desi soap. They've got it right with the casting and even the writing and the direction more or less. Wish they would work on the other aspects as well.

Originally posted by: -Sush-

You said it well my friend...Both leads are shown to be very virtuous...I feel like this must be a dream...You know specially after going through a barage of MLs, who have been far less...one even delibertaley caused an anaphylactic shock to the FL...and tried to pretend to burn her family down alive...🤢 Remember? The other one left her out to sleep in the courtyard after the wedding, the same one asking her to get out of the car...and left her at a remote place at night in Delhi...depraved indiffernce is what I called it...What a nice change to see decency...and my point...you dont have to love a person to be decent to them...it is about who you are...

Yup...I agree about the gesture...saying I GOT THIS...out of place...they are not there yet as a couple...

Chick and Darcyfan...coming back to your posts!

Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

Today's episode is what one would call "Paysa Vasool!" It was superb. Not a thing out of place. Loved the whole episode and mostly the expression on Ranaji's face when Gayatri threw away the crown and decided to tell Wilkinson a few home truths. He gave her the crown with a veiled insult and she rejected it with an open one! Just LOVED it dammit. I also like how when Ranaji was about to react to Wilkinson's rude words, Gayatri touched his hand and stopped him as if to say "I got this!". She then gave Wilkinson back and Rajani was hell proud. Then he took over! They truly were a partnership today.

Today was a turning point in the relationship of Indravardan and Gayatri. They really stood out today as king and queen of Ameerkot. Ranaji has found a worthy Raniji. Everyone's expressions were worth seeing! I must say today's episode and also the way Ranaji has been behaving this week has been so entertaining to watch! THIS is the man I signed up to see. Not the Devdas version we were treated to for weeks! Just love this avatar of Ranaji, and even though Gayu was under the influence because of Kila Chachi, it still worked in her favour. She may have lost favour with the Brits but she won favour with her King. She should take drugs and rip into snooty English guys more. It's worth it just to see that expression on Ranaji's face! Can't wait for tomorrow. Now this week's episodes should get better TRP!

BTW I love Duals. Since I was a teenager I have been reading historical novels and they would always have duals in them. Especially the old Babara Cartland novels. (My Mum was into those and she had a collection which I read). So my knowledge of duals is reasonable. I was really looking forward to this one and looking forward to the rest of it too!

Originally posted by: -Sush-

A Duel is a fight using a weapon to settle a matter of dispute relating to honor, Red..The gun version is probably coming from Texas...😆. Really liked how SK enunciated the word...perfectly!! 😃 The Hindi translation was very appropriate too...although the Hindi word does not necessarily imply using a weapon ...but that is the closest word...

The writers deserve credit for researching the topic well and coming with dialogues that make sense and have basis... Can hardly believe this is a desi soap at times...that are filmed inside a room, with characters that are totally unrelatable for me...happened to catch an episode of Sathiya when I was in India...and there were two women with huge faces...and the camera focused on their faces...while they made weird expressions...unbelievable entertainment value...😆

Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

Sush this is how I know about the gun duel. There was a political one in the US history. I had never studied sword duels. But boy have the makers done their research well.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/burr-slays-hamilton-in-duel

In a duel held in Weehawken, New Jersey, Vice President Aaron Burr fatally shoots his long-time political antagonist Alexander Hamilton. Hamilton, a leading Federalist and the chief architect of America's political economy, died the following day.

Alexander Hamilton, born on the Caribbean island of Nevis, came to the American colonies in 1773 as a poor immigrant. (There is some controversy as to the year of his birth, but it was either 1755 or 1757.) In 1776, he joined the Continental Army in the American Revolution, and his relentless energy and remarkable intelligence brought him to the attention of General George Washington, who took him on as an aid. Ten years later, Hamilton served as a delegate to the Constitutional Convention, and he led the fight to win ratification of the final document, which created the kind of strong, centralized government that he favored. In 1789, he was appointed the first secretary of the treasury by President Washington, and during the next six years he crafted a sophisticated monetary policy that saved the young U.S. government from collapse. With the emergence of political parties, Hamilton was regarded as a leader of the Federalists.

Aaron Burr, born into a prestigious New Jersey family in 1756, was also intellectually gifted, and he graduated from the College of New Jersey (later Princeton) at the age of 17. He joined the Continental Army in 1775 and distinguished himself during the Patriot attack on Quebec. A masterful politician, he was elected to the New State Assembly in 1783 and later served as state attorney. In 1790, he defeated Alexander Hamilton's father-in-law in a race for the U.S. Senate.

Hamilton came to detest Burr, whom he regarded as a dangerous opportunist, and he often spoke ill of him. When Burr ran for the vice presidency in 1796 on Thomas Jefferson's Democratic-Republican ticket (the forerunner of the Democratic Party), Hamilton launched a series of public attacks against Burr, stating, "I feel it is a religious duty to oppose his career." John Adams won the presidency, and in 1797 Burr left the Senate and returned to the New York Assembly.

In 1800, Jefferson chose Burr again as his running mate. Burr aided the Democratic-Republican ticket by publishing a confidential document that Hamilton had written criticizing his fellow Federalist President John Adams. This caused a rift in the Federalists and helped Jefferson and Burr win the election with 73 electoral votes each.

Under the electoral procedure then prevailing, president and vice president were not voted for separately; the candidate who received the most votes was elected president, and the second in line, vice president. The vote then went to the House of Representatives. What at first seemed but an electoral technicality-handing Jefferson victory over his running mate-developed into a major constitutional crisis when Federalists in the lame-duck Congress threw their support behind Burr. After a remarkable 35 tie votes, a small group of Federalists changed sides and voted in Jefferson's favor. Alexander Hamilton, who had supported Jefferson as the lesser of two evils, was instrumental in breaking the deadlock.

Burr became vice president, but Jefferson grew apart from him, and he did not support Burr's renomination to a second term in 1804. That year, a faction of New York Federalists, who had found their fortunes drastically diminished after the ascendance of Jefferson, sought to enlist the disgruntled Burr into their party and elect him governor. Hamilton campaigned against Burr with great fervor, and Burr lost the Federalist nomination and then, running as an independent for governor, the election. In the campaign, Burr's character was savagely attacked by Hamilton and others, and after the election he resolved to restore his reputation by challenging Hamilton to a duel, or an "affair of honor," as they were known.

Affairs of honor were commonplace in America at the time, and the complex rules governing them usually led to an honorable resolution before any actual firing of weapons. In fact, the outspoken Hamilton had been involved in several affairs of honor in his life, and he had resolved most of them peaceably. No such recourse was found with Burr, however, and on July 11, 1804, the enemies met at 7 a.m. at the dueling grounds near Weehawken, New Jersey. It was the same spot where Hamilton's son had died defending his father's honor in 1801.

There are conflicting accounts of what happened next. According to Hamilton's "second"-his assistant and witness in the duel-Hamilton decided the duel was morally wrong and deliberately fired into the air. Burr's second claimed that Hamilton fired at Burr and missed. What happened next is agreed upon: Burr shot Hamilton in the stomach, and the bullet lodged next to his spine. Hamilton was taken back to New York, and he died the next afternoon.

Few affairs of honor actually resulted in deaths, and the nation was outraged by the killing of a man as eminent as Alexander Hamilton. Charged with murder in New York and New Jersey, Burr, still vice president, returned to Washington, D.C., where he finished his term immune from prosecution.

In 1805, Burr, thoroughly discredited, concocted a plot with James Wilkinson, commander-in-chief of the U.S. Army, to seize the Louisiana Territory and establish an independent empire, which Burr, presumably, would lead. He contacted the British government and unsuccessfully pleaded for assistance in the scheme. Later, when border trouble with Spanish Mexico heated up, Burr and Wilkinson conspired to seize territory in Spanish America for the same purpose.

In the fall of 1806, Burr led a group of well-armed colonists toward New Orleans, prompting an immediate U.S. investigation. General Wilkinson, in an effort to save himself, turned against Burr and sent dispatches to Washington accusing Burr of treason. In February 1807, Burr was arrested in Louisiana for treason and sent to Virginia to be tried in a U.S. court. In September, he was acquitted on a technicality. Nevertheless, public opinion condemned him as a traitor, and he fled to Europe. He later returned to private life in New York, the murder charges against him forgotten. He died in 1836.