To Err is Human. - Page 3

Originally posted by: medha16

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Thanks!

@ bold exactly. People cannot accept flawed characters coz they are so used to seeing their male leads being so "saintly" and high on morality.

People don't question the turbulent relationship that Ross Taylor and Rachel Green shared and accept an Elena Gilbert confused between 2 men but here they cannot accept a Kabir, who has made mistakes, accepted them and tried to rectify them as much as possible and is still living in guilt over it.

This reminds me of my school incident... When I was in X standard.. I had a close friend in hostel. We used to share all secrets with each other. So there was a guy in our class who was interested in me and proposed me and I rejected because I didn't have any feelings for him and he tried again before my close friend and I rejected again. I told my friend about his earlier proposal also... And after that for two weeks she was very silent seemed lost ... I kept asking her what was the problem she said nothing. She was the brightest student in our whole school. Then one day she was caught making out with one of our teacher. It was the biggest shock of my life and a big scandal in school. I couldn't understand why she did because I knew her so well then ... She was sent to counselling etc etc when she came back I asked her why she did it and she said she was hurt and broke bcoz she loved the guy who proposed me. And she didn't realise what she did in that moment. I felt shocked sorry ... And what not... She is a good girl but sometimes when people are hurt broke they do mistakes!!!! Of course she is famous doctor now and living happily with her family now. This episode reminded me of that incident.

Originally posted by: Merav

This reminds me of my school incident... When I was in X standard.. I had a close friend in hostel. We used to share all secrets with each other. So there was a guy in our class who was interested in me and proposed me and I rejected because I didn't have any feelings for him and he tried again before my close friend and I rejected again. I told my friend about his earlier proposal also... And after that for two weeks she was very silent seemed lost ... I kept asking her what was the problem she said nothing. She was the brightest student in our whole school. Then one day she was caught making out with one of our teacher. It was the biggest shock of my life and a big scandal in school. I couldn't understand why she did because I knew her so well then ... She was sent to counselling etc etc when she came back I asked her why she did it and she said she was hurt and broke bcoz she loved the guy who proposed me. And she didn't realise what she did in that moment. I felt shocked sorry ... And what not... She is a good girl but sometimes when people are hurt broke they do mistakes!!!! Of course she is famous doctor now and living happily with her family now. This episode reminded me of that incident.

Originally posted by: pomegranate

right now, it's more concern about tarini/kabir frienship.they had sex so how can they still remain friends? people cannot wrap their minds around it. like I said, we like to compertmentalize things and sort them into boxes, where everything fits the mold and that is why the kabir/tarini relationship is being judged so cruelly. the way so many people are pointing fingers at kabir and tarini's relationship, even the incestuous relationship in game of thrones were not criticized like this😉

the godlike kabir sharma fell today, and this is the reaction. no wonder CV's portray all their male and female leads as saints.

Absolutely agree with every last word you have written. Just for the sake of argument, let me play the Devil's advocate and ask you, in a hypothetical situation, if Ananya were to sleep with Ronnie, her BFF,---after having had a huge fight with Kabir, would he accept her back? Yes, Shreya was an emotional bully, the marriage had been down in the dumps before he gave in to that act of vulnerability yada yada, and I am happy that he realizes he is inculpable for the same. My question is where do we as viewers and Ananya, as a character, draw a line? I want Ananya to pause and reflect on the hypothetical situation stated above. I think she's being shown a bit unreal.

Originally posted by: .Veritaserum

Absolutely agree with every last word you have written. Just for the sake of argument, let me play the Devil's advocate and ask you, in a hypothetical situation, if Ananya were to sleep with Ronnie, her BFF,---after having had a huge fight with Kabir, would he accept her back? Yes, Shreya was an emotional bully, the marriage had been down in the dumps before he gave in to that act of vulnerability yada yada, and I am happy that he realizes he is inculpable for the same. My question is where do we as viewers and Ananya, as a character, draw a line? I want Ananya to pause and reflect on the hypothetical situation stated above. I think she's being shown a bit unreal.

Originally posted by: medha16

Hi,

Firstly, thanks for your comment.

I would have been happier if Ananya took a moment to think, to ponder before accepting all that Kabir said.

It's a lot to take in and any person would be a little shaken after learning some unpleasant truths about your bf.

But havig said that, every person is different. Ananya lives in the moment and as she has said so many times before this that Kabir's past is his own and as long as he is here with her in the present, nothing else matters or should be a hurdle between them. She has wholeheartedly accepted him in her life, along with all his baggage and she does not believe in looking back. She actually said in yesterday's episode that it's not that she did not have any doubts about his relationship with Tarini at all but now since he is here with her, in this relationship, what transgressions he made in the past does not define their present relationship. Maybe, she is just a very secure person in general and trusts her love in Kabir or maybe she was too overwhelmed and took a hasty decision. That we are yet to see.

Yes. In matters of heart, one needs to take calculated leaps of faith in order to make any kind of progress at all. Placing her faith completely on Kabir, the changed man, who regrets his past, and has more than received his comeuppance for the same is only natural for a girl like Ananya, who is all positivity personified now that you're pointing out.

Again, as for the hypothetical situation u presented, I feel that it depends on the circumstances. Our reactions and responses go hand in hand with the external stimuli that one is faced with. What might or might not happen we can only speculate.

If Ananya were to sleep with Ronnie, something must have led her to that point. I strongly believe that 2 ppl make a relationship and it takes both of them to break it, unless of course we are talking about something extreme like marital rape, abuse, etc. Ananya would not have strayed if things were fine between the two of them, it might take something huge, brewing for a long time to make her be emotionally vulnerable and susceptible to weakness.

Actually when I was thinking through this situation out loud with my brother (who btw is a KK pankha😆), he said " is this show kind of indirectly showing that males who have affair or ONS outside of wedlock do it out of frustration and been driven to do so by their wives, rather than it being a consciously made decision?" and it gave me some food for thought. A man, whose moral compass is always well aligned commits an act of impropriety, but doesn't feel bitter about cheating on his ex? I wish the makers would show a heart-to-heat talk b/w Kabir and Shreya on how they realize that they were unfit to be with each other from the beginning, and he regretted committing the act.

I'll give u an example...Amitabh bachchan had an affair with Rekha for YEARS and yet Jaya took him back but Deepika padukone could not forgive Ranbir Kapoor for straying when it happeed more than once and broke up with him.

Haha! Showbiz is a completely different story. You know I was kinda disappointed when my favorite actress went ahead and married this jerk, and got dumped too, and the jerk is now gallivanting with his latest conquest. Life just goes on...for them. But I am talking about commoners, like us, who'd probably cringe at the thought of even looking at infidels. But again, Hitler was supposed to be a faithful lover, a teetotaler, and animal lover and what-not. So again, what are the qualities one needs to take into account while evaluating someone or branding someone as "marriage material" so to speak?

It's completely upto the personality, the temperament of the people involved on what course to take. these things are situational, u can hardly compartmentalize them in neat little boxes and be done with it. At least, that's what I feel.

Agreed!

And also, I would like to point out that ananya is not the person kabir cheated on. maybe, her reaction would have been different if she was in Shreya's place. for her, what he did was his past and what he is now is should matter.

The more stronger the bond is, the more probability that the relationship would survive the test of time and other trials and tribulations -mundane or otherwise. At this juncture, per Ananya, Kabir is a safe bet indeed.

Originally posted by: medha16

Yes, I haven't watched the episode yet but i stand by what I said.

Kabir was in a right funk when he gave in that night.

He isn't a saint and we aren't moral popes to judge him for his one wrong action.

Isn't it enough that he is suffering still and is still at guilt over what happened?

I'do not support infidelity but we must take into account the state of mind he was in at that time...and his marriage was over long before it happened. That doesn't justify what he did but it also does not give anybody the right to point fingers at him.Infidelity is wrong but so is abuse and what shreya did to him was nothing short of that.

He is human and he gave into a moment of weakness where he probably needed some warmth to assure himself that he wasn't falling apart and that he was also a person to be loved and cherished even for that one single moment.

Does that make him a bad person? Of course not.

Actually his acceptance of his mistakes to Ananya, to Shreya actually elevated him in my eyes. To err is human but to accept one's mistake takes immense courage that only few can possess.

Kabir Sharma is not a saint, he isn't a doodh-ka-dhula, he has seen a lot, experienced a lot and as long as he stays true to his feelings for Ananya, i don't understand how he suddenly becomes "undeserving" of her love and of our respect. We need to stop putting our leads at a pedestal...he is NOT a hero, he is just you and me. i think those who have really delved into the world of Harry Potter will be familiar with what I'm trying to say. That's the most common analogy I can give u right now.