Jalal becomes Akbar thanks to a Hindu citizen! - Page 2

Very enjoyable and thought provoking analysis, as usual.

awesome analysis di... 🤗
will give a detail review when I get back home...

but I would like to inform you that shivani-tejwant are married...during tejwant-shivani-jodha scene...I saw sindoor on shivani's maang...they are already married and I am shocked...

I guess during MH-Shivani marriage track...tejwant-shivani elope with each other from the temple...on the way they might got married

A very nice analysis of a milestone episode. My thoughts-

Originally posted by: skanda12

Hi Mansi,

It is good to have you 'back' 😃. During weekend I acted like a jerk when I kept refreshing the page for you usual post. Then my consciousness scolded me , 'Rayyan! Stop being such a jerk and start to pray for her health!" Please forgive me Mansi...for my love and attachment to your post had blinded me for a while...😭 Now that I realised my mistake, I really wish you the best😳.

Here are few thing I like to say...😊

Regarding Jalal's wish that Jodha should make his dream come true fast!

Frankly, folks I still cannot understand how Jalal can ask Jodha "Will you make my dream for a child come fast?" when it is all up to his own speed? I felt like replying him myself that f he slept alone less and had fewer private dreams, and he slept more with Jodha, there was a greater chance of his dreams coming true!

I wrote a thread regarding this. Here is what I wrote :

Come on, girls and guys...this is 16th century King and Queen...the King won't just jump on his Begum to ahem ahem...

It is the way of he asking...

Are you ready for the baby, my love? Let's ahem ahem from tonight so my dream will soon come true...☺️

And of course...

Shy Jodha tried to run away but the love in her for him and she also wants to become the mother of his child make her agree by coming closer to him and letting him hugging her...☺️

I don't know about about Indian man, but South East Asian origin Muslim Malaysian guys are still using this kind of 'HINT' when they want to be 'close' to their wife like 'When will my parents dream will come true?' or 'When will our only child will have a little sibling to play with?'. The wife will always shy at first but normally will show signs of she too wanting the same thing and then...the 'process' will begin...😳

So, judging from how Jodha responded to Jalal, she was giving him a go for it, baby.😉😃

They do Ahem Ahem after that...☺️ 🥳

I wish the Creatives would show more of the husband-wife sleeping together after the SR rather than convert Jalal into a semi-monk after the SR. Honestly, is this the land of fairy tales where babies are so easily conceived with just one SR between the parents? However romantic the notion, surely there has to be more reality in the story?

In the same thread, I also post :

For me, I don't mind if they don't really show the second SR for my imagination would be wilder than what they can show to me due to understandable restrictions😃.

But I do hope CV shows us prove that they did ahem ahem regularly and scenes of more playful and naughty JoJa especially during the morning after...😳😆

I believe that CV wants to show us that this is a Royal Love Story, it is something exquisite and not for public display.

I got it but I really wish that CV can at least show us the 'improper' JoJa when they are alone in they hojra, only for our view?

Come on CV, we knew that Jalal can be a very shameless guy...remember the Ooh Aah scene in Amer...☺️ I still can remember VERY SINGLE DETAILS and not to mention SOUNDS from that scene...😳

Regarding the status of Shivani and Tejwant ...

I am glad the Creatives brought Shivani and Tejwant back in the picture briefly if only to show us that these two are still at Agra. But it seems rather odd that this unmarried couple are allowed to stay on endlessly at Agra in close proximity to each other despite their marriage not having happened. We heard rumours that Jalal was planning a big wedding for Shivani, but instead the whole of Agra now seems to be acting as chaperone for Shivani.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Creatives have totally forgotten Shivani's wedding, and instead show us later that Shivani and Tejwant were already technically married via some mandir shaadi that they had already done, and thus Jalal's wedding for them was just an elaborate reconfirmation of their married status. If such an explanation is not given, I wonder how Bharmal is allowing their continued stay together in Agra?

What can I say, JA CVs' brain have a very unique way of functioning. They forgot what they want us to forget and they gave us an unusual, illogical, and doesn't fit the timeline flashback when they want us to remember things that never happen like the flashback of Jalal lovingly giving Jodha the bangle as their wedding gift.

On the total irrationality of Zee and Balaji's promos ...

This the third time Zee and Balaji are showing irrelevant trivia as promos while bypassing key events critical to the story. Here the epic moment of the story is when Jalal becomes Akbar and we have nothing about it in any promo. Instead we have Mahchuchak's entry overly dramatized and made to look garish as as promo!

For the suhaag raath we have no promo till the very end when we were told its coming on Monday. And as for the Ruq expose of the faking, we had no clue it was coming, and instead we were made to see a promo of some random scenes from some random parts of the serial that made us wonder when the track we are seeing will end and when we will get Ruq's unmasking. Bingo, suddenly an expose scene is plonked during the week.

This is not happening just once or twice its happening repeatedly. Can someone tell me what the logic is here? When the serial has a high moment the Creatives and channel do not want to highlight it? Or do they believe that the sudden surprise factor brings in more TRPs? There's got to be some logic, no matter how zany it is. Wish I knew what that logic was. I am sure more people would see the show regularly if they know that a series of highlight points are in the offing!

Lesser serials are doing a better job of promoting their show!

I did stop believing in Zee and Balaji's marketing teams credibility and ability. My only explanation about this is either they are just a bunch of useless brains or they are just a group of aliens who do have different view from a normal intelligent brains like us.

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Beautiful take Mansi..Hope you are fine now..overall gud episode..CV's and zee never fails to surprise us... but still I feel ekta chose wrong channel to telecast such a popular show.. don't know whether the problem is with PH team or zee marketing cum promoting team... failed big time to promote such a milestone episode... this naming ceremony is very important in jalal's life..instead of promoting this they are hell bent on promoting vamps...May be India television industry like vamps I guess that's y they are promoting these things...wasting thr time on promoting dreams but failed to promote maham bandaphod and rukku's pharda pash..and teertkar abolition and now akbar getting this title... guess May be marketing head and promoting team doesn't no the the importance of akbar and this title..thats y they are promoting unnecessary things...any how thr is nothing we cud do ... only one positive thing is even with out any promo's still we are ruling trp charts..

1)again jalal has become so naughty..Teda jalal doesn't no what to talk and what not to infront of kids and bandhi's..he was full on josh yesterday and teasing his bhaagin like anything... now he is so eagar to get his child from jodha..he wont leave her till he gets wat he wants...in this show we should think wen ever jalal hugs jo in night time it means they both spent night together ..wen jalal goes to jo's hojra or jo goes to jalal's hojra at night time we should assume they are spending thr nights together... guess after this CB track jo il be shown pregnant..

2) shenu..dont no what to say mansi..ekta is good in selecting leads or vamps or each & every character..but cv's fails big time..heard shenu aka shilpa was a grt actress.. she was the best vamp..see now what they made her.. just without thinking any logics she thinks that this takt is hers and she il kill jalal and takes takt from him..not even thinking logically..y all are thinking like this..adham,sharif,abu mali everyone..kill jalal take takt from him... not thinking logically if jalal dies then his bro hakim will be the next emperor ...don't know on wat basis shenu thinks that other royal members il allow her to rule... just hope they il show MC differently not like shenu...

3)DEK scene was beautiful.. I loved salima begum's expressions..she was too good.. how deeply she loves bairam khan..even jalal also knows this ... both jalal and salima shares sacred relationship... how jalal praised BH..for a sec I got scared what if he thanks and praises maham also...

4)Jo was looking extremely beautiful yesterday..jalal was already lattoo on her... how he praised her beauty.. and how he accepted that he can never win over her..neither he can argue with her...he always request her to come along with him..for others his one ishara ...

5)Rukku il never change..now I am really worried..yesterday how jalal ignored her..i am sure maham il add ghee to it..again rukku il plot something ..just hope she doesn't hurt Jo... other wise jalal wont spare her this time... khud ke per main khulari maarna koi rukku se seeke

6) yesterday's epi whr his own ones are planning to back stab and maulvis are opposing him... whr hindus are praying for him and awarded him with new name akbar...

7) wen jalal got his new name next moment he saw his soul mate and both were talking through eyes.. how jo said humare shehehsha and humare akbar...and soul talk was the best...

Mansi coming to shenu maddy predicted it that shenu may not be CB's daughter..inturn sent by Maha chuchak..or may be she is CB's daughter ,wen she gets to no about maham's truth ,she m8 turn positive and gets killed saving jalal...now my question is to whom that paigam was sent..that paigam was sent to someone through rajvanshi soldier not a mughal sipahi..so this paigam was sent to MC or some other rajvanshi king???

Once again take care of your health and don't take stress...

Another beautiful writeup of a lovely epi mansi!

Epi is executed so beautiful way ... timing ...events ... tat hindu rep frm praja ... everythng was so well ... aah soul talk added another level of beauty 2 d entire scn

Good take Mansi...

frankly i loved the episode for it's simple beauty...right from start to end there was something to watch for... the sweet simple relationship btw Jo and Jalal , where both r really merged with eachother mind body and soul... his relation with Jo is not more of a show off like his with Ruku, which was more on physical level and as friend cum advisor...that relation could never fulfill his desire for love and peace of mind... but with Jo , his desire is fulfilled mostly every moment... whatever she does, big or small, it gives him satisfaction, peace , a moment of pride and mostly a feeling of being loved and supported...no wonder this once hated begum of his has earned the place of top priority in his life, that now he wants to share every moment only with her..

and abt that last scene , where he is given the title as 'Akbar' , i found most beautiful... the once cruel, heartless, ruthless emperor now wants to share his moments of happiness and pride with his subjects... now when he has started to understand the importance of his subjects in his life, regardless of their religion or caste, his subjects r no less than him... they too understand and acknowledge the change in their king, and this was their way to show it...

yest many viewers must have felt , that this biggest moment should have been shown in grand way... but for me this was most beautiful way to show it... the man who gave him that paper on which that title was written, he was no one... rather he was , we can say just a mere representative of his common praja... and so that was the moment of recognition , the moment of acceptance by even a smallest part of the vast society...

that moment couldn't have been better...guys , when a common man gives something to a king, he will give it in a simple ceremony... he can't arrange a grand ceremony for a king... and then this was not some gift even... this was their gratitude for their king... their acknowledgement for the happiness that young king , who himself is not much older than their own kids... and even at such young age , this king of theirs is trying his best for their betterment, this feeling, this truth, just made those subject act in that moment... and thus they did something , that gave the young emperor the moment of utmost pride in his life till date... and then he shared that moment with his loved one in their private eyelock...most beautiful...

there was even something more... when that man gave Jalal that piece of paper on which Akbar was written , it was written in hindi as well as urdu... that means it's by both his hindu and muslim subjects , common subjects, who r actually merged in eachother , leaving behind the walls of religions or caste... the ppl who opposed him were his own ppl who call themselves his advisors... and so now he can see who r real backstabbers , who r be the thornes in his life , his political system when he will try to do something for betterment of his subjects... now he can understand whom he needs to take care of, while proving himself the better king and a perfect Shehenshah , who is loved and respected by all... coz yest simple incident made one thing clear, that now his subjects Hindu/Muslim have accepted him all by heart, they love and respect him most, right after their God... and while this feeling of acceptance gives him pride, satisfaction and peace, it gives more the feeling of increased responsibility towards his subjects to protect them now and in future, to care for their stability and prosperity from those who r always ready to disturb the society with their so called rules and acts...

one thing sure, now Jalal won't look back to the past , which might give him the feeling of regret for the way he was... now when he has the strong support of his subjects, he will always be ready to prove himself that he truly deserves the title given to him...AKBAR.

and let's be sure that his love will always be there for him with him... coz she too has accepted that he is hers...His Jodha's Akbar...

Dear Mansi,

Good analysis Mansi..

Originally posted by: history_geek

Forgot to menTion few things.

1. ''Credit'' for issuing coins was NOT given to Jodha. Lol. I hope ALL are happy now. :)

BTW, I don't understand this ''credit'' issue. Sometimes, we can feel so, but in present case it was so nicely shown. Akbar and HK are one. And, they were divinely ordained to be so. Abul Fazl has called mother of Salim to be the 'Matrix of Akbar'...!!!!!!!!


2. I want M. Chuchak to stay in Kabul only, and execute political conspiracies. She was silently building support with the Central Asians and reportedly Uzbek as well, for her plans against Akbar.
I want all this political twist to be shown beautifully.

Btw, she marched against Munim Khan personally in a battle at Kabul. !! . Was a GOOD WARRIOR. And, Munim Khan was DEFEATED. !!!!!!!..

right Abhay... but i think Mahachuchak never really came to Agra , right?she operated all her misdeeds from Kabul itself, and still was worst headache for akbar...i really don't want to see her wondering around akbar, one more addition to those irritating faces around him..

and abt the credits, then our Jo now doesn't need any different credit for anything good that Akbar will do... coz yest she claimed what rightfully belonged to only her... Akbar...she said it and he acknowledged it, that Akbar was Jodha's ... and when he himself now belongs to hers, why should anybody bother for simple credits...

Jalal may belong to ruku and others but Akbar is only Jo's ...