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Posted: 11 years ago
Attempt on Akbar

On page 47, Smith refers to Akbar's extreme weakness for women. He says: "Early in January, 1564 Akbar moved to Delhi. While he was passing along a road, a man standing in the balcony of a roadside building discharged an arrow which injured Akbar in the shoulder...Akbar seems to have discouraged attempts to ascertain the assailant's accomplices. He was then engaged in a scheme for marrying ladies belonging to Delhi families and had compelled one Sheikh to divorce his wife in his favor. The attempted assassination...was probably prompted by resentment at the royal invasion of the honor of families. Akbar, throughout his life, allowed himself ample latitude in the matter of wives and concubines!"

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Originally posted by: KDR81

Yes,
He banned it and also made regulation of having only one wife... 2nd marriage was permitted only when 1st was deceased or was childless...😊 He was the 1st to have banned Sati-daah in Hindus too...

Sati was always banned since days of babar and humayun but no one cared for thie bans
Akbar made a rule that only girls willing to be sati should be allowed not otherwise
But it was jehangir who actually brought a rule blanket banning it and anyone forcing a girl to sit on funeral pyre was punished (anti sati law kind of dictat)
But Raja Man Singh(Hira's nephew) his brother in law died and 60 of his wives jumped in funeral pyre with him
Voilation of sati rules by emperors own relatives 😭
Edited by myviewprem - 11 years ago
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Hi,
well, I guess what u mentioned abt Man Singh and his wives was "Jawhar" common in Rajputana and not exactly"Sati-daah"...there's a fine distinction between the two...though both are immolation...😊

A girl usually was forced to be Sati in the same funeral pyre after the husband's death
..and usually in intoxicated state... whereas Jawhar was performed willingly where the wives entered a cave/confined place where Pavitra Agni was lit and got immolated ...

Abt the incident in Delhi, I think u r referring to Abdul Wasi's ex-wife Daulat Shad ...she was a concubine...U see apart from the most famous 3-4 marriages, Akbar DID NOT exactly marry these bibis lawfully... I hope u know those were Muttahs...not Nikaahs...


Originally posted by: myviewprem

Sati was always banned since days of babar and humayun but no one cared for thie bans
Akbar made a rule that only girls willing to be sati should be allowed not otherwise
But it was jehangir who actually brought a rule blanket banning it and anyone forcing a girl to sit on funeral pyre was punished (anti sati law kind of dictat)
But Raja Man Singh(Hira's nephew) his brother in law died and 60 of his wives jumped in funeral pyre with him
Voilation of sati rules by emperors own relatives 😭

Edited by KDR81 - 11 years ago
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Adham Khan death and a sons tribute to his foster father

While this fantastic building was being made, a very unfortunate thing happened in Akbar's life. He was very close to the families of both his nurses, Maham Anaga and Jiji Anaga, but Maham Anaga's family really resented all the favours Akbar did for Jiji Anaga's kin. Maham's son Adham, who had grown up with Akbar, was now a commander in his army, but was really swollen-headed and insolent. On the other hand, Jiji Anaga's son Aziz was well-behaved, and her husband, Shamsuddin, was Akbar's vakil. Akbar was so close to Shamsuddin that he never called him by his name, but called him Ataga which means father' (just like Anaga means mother').

Once, young Adham really misbehaved and Akbar had to give him a scolding. This enraged Adham; he got drunk and rushed into the palace waving his sword shouting Where is that Akbar? I will kill him today!' Ataga Khan rushed to block his path but Adham cut him down, and ran up the stairs towards Akbar's bedroom.

Akbar heard the commotion and came outside and overpowered Adham and handed him over to the guards.Then he looked down and saw his beloved Ataga Khan sprawled on the ground with the blood seeping out of his body. Why have you killed our Ataga,' he cried, and there and then ordered the guards to throw Adham off his parapet and down to his death. Adham fell but did not die and Akbar ordered that he be brought upstairs and thrown down again. This time he did die.

For his beloved Ataga, Akbar ordered a tomb to be built. It is like Humayun's tomb in many ways, though it is much smaller. And in many ways it is better. It is more beautifully decorated, and it is in a really sacred spot, just adjoining the tomb of saint Nizamuddin Chisti
It's a little jewel hidden in the narrow and crowded streets and almost forgotten by everyone. But here is a small and perfectly proportioned version of Humayun's tomb, made by Akbar in memory of his dead foster father, even as the huge tomb for his real father was being built. Look at the marble on the walls, so beautifully carved with flowers and with verses from the Quran. These are words that honour martyrs, and must have seemed the right thing to put on the tomb of a man who died defending his emperor-son. If you can, open the door and see the traces of lovely painting and other decoration inside the tomb. And think about the massive tomb made across the road for a father who was an emperor, and whose tomb needed to impress the public, and the tiny and exquisite tomb made as a more personal gift of love from a devoted foster-son, to his devoted foster-father
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Here is list of his first 50 wives taken from jehangirnama and other official records. He had 300 wives officially. Some of them may not be royals
(first) at Ghazni, 1552, his cousin, Shahzadi Ruqiya Sultan Begum Sahiba (b. 1542; d.s.p. at Agra, 5th February1626 n.s. (bur. Kabul), daughter of his paternal uncle, Shahzada Abu Nasir Muhammad Hindal Mirza. m.
(second) 1556, a daughter of Jamal Khan, of Mewat.
m. (third) at Mankot, 1557, a daughter of Abdu'llah Khan Mughal. m.
(fourth) before 11th September 1561 o.s., Salima Sultan Begum Sahiba (b. 23rd February 1539; d. at Delhi, 27th December 1612 n.s. (bur. in the Mandarkar Garden, Agra), widow of Waqil us-Sultanat, Yar Wafadar, Baradur Neku-siyar, Farzand-i-Saadatmand, Nawab Bairam Khan Bahadur, Khan-i-Khanan [Khan Baba], sometime Vicegerent of the Empire, and daughter of Khwaja Nur ud-din Muhammad Mirza [Sayyid Amir], by his wife, Shahzadi Gul Barg Begum Sahiba, daughter of Al-Sultan al-'Azam wal Khaqan al-Mukarram Zahir ud-din Muhammad Jalal ud-din Babur Padshah Ghazi, Emperor of India.
m. (fifth) at Sambhar, 6th February 1562, Wali Nimat, Hamida Banu Mariam uz-Zamani Begum Sahiba (d. at Agram, 19th May 1623 n.s., bur. Rauza Mariam, Sikandara), ne Rajkumari Hira Kunwari Sahiba, alias Harkha Bai, eldest daughter of Raja Bihari Mal, Raja of Amber.
m. (sixth) at Nagaur, 1562, Maharajkumari Shri Nathi Bai Sahiba, daughter of Maharajadhiraj Parama Bhattarak Shri Maharawal Ji Bairi Hariraj Singh Dev Bahadur, Yadukul Chandrawhal, Bijaimand, Maharaja of Jaisalmer.
m. (seventh) before 21st August 1563 n.s., the former wife of Abdu'l-Wasi.
m. (eighth) near Mandu, September 1564, a daughter of Miran Mubaraq Shah Faruqi II, King of Khandesh.
m. (ninth) a daughter of Fadan Khan.
m. (tenth) 1569, a daughter of Sultan Muhammad Nasir ud-din Husain Shah [Hosaina Shaha] Ghazi, Sultan of Kashmir.
m. (eleventh) 1570 (div.), Sindh Begum Sahiba (d.s.p.), daughter of Mirza Muhammad Baqi Tarkhan of Thatta, Sind.
m. (twelfth) at Nagaur, 16th November 1570, Baiji Lal Raj Kanwari Sahiba, daughter of Kunwar Shri Kanho [Kanhaji], of Bikaner, and niece of Rao Shri Kalyan Mal, Rao of Bikaner.
m. (thirteenth) at Nagaur, 16th November 1570, Baiji Lal Bhanumati Kanwari Sahiba, daughter of Kanwar Sri Bhim Rajji, Gai Bhum ra Bahru, of Bikaner.
m. (fourteenth) ca. 1572, a daughter of Nahar Das Isar Das. m.
m. (fifteenth) 1573, a daughter of Raja Shri Jai Chand, of Nagaur.
m. (sixteenth) at Fatehpur Sikri, 1575, Kasima Banu Begum Sahiba, daughter of Arab Shah.
m. (seventeenth) 1577, a daughter of Maharawal Shri Askaran Sahib Bahadur, Maharawal of Dungarpur.
m. (eighteenth) ca. 1581, Rajkumari Shri Rukmawati Baiji Lall Sahiba [Jodh Bibi] (d.s.p. before 30th May 1623, bur. Bihishtabad Sikandara, near Agra), daughter of Rao Shri Mal Deoji, Rao of Marwar, by his paswan, Tipu.
m. (nineteenth) 1581, a daughter of Raja Shri Kesho Das Rathore, of Merta.
m. (twentieth) at Lahore, 1594, a daughter of Qazi Isa, of Qazwin.
m. (twenty-first) before 1597, a daughter of Nasir Khan.
m. (twenty-second) 1597, a daughter of Sri Sri Maharaja Lakshmi Narayan Bhup Bahadur, Raja of Cooch Behar.
m. (twenty-third) Gauhar Khanum, a sister of Shaikh Jamal Bakht Bahaduriyar. m. (twenty-fourth) Tara Begum Sahiba, who built the Tara Bagh at Agra.
m. (twenty-fifth) Tauti Begum Sahiba, who built the Tota Bagh and Tota ka Tal in Agra. m.
(twenty-sixth) a daughter of Hasan Khan of Merta.
m. (twenty-seventh?) a maternal niece of Jodhaji Soda, of Nawanagar (d. after 1608). m.
(twenty-eighth?) Manbhaoti Begum (a concubine?), who built a garden at Agra.
m. (twenty-ninth?) Abdar Begum Sahiba (a concubine?).
m. (thirtieth?) Achanak Begum (a concubine?), who built the garden of Achanak Bagh, on the banks of the Jamuna river, at Agra.
m. (a) Bibi Pungrai.
m. (b) 1564, Bibi Aram Bakhsh.
m. (c) Bibi Salima Sultana (d. at Lahore, 23rd May 1599).
m. (d) Bibi Khaira.
m. (e) Bibi Maryam (d. at Lahore, 1596).
m. (f) Bibi Daulat Shad.
m. (g) Bibi Naun.
m. (h) at Srinagar, October 1592, a daughter of Shams Chak, of Kashmir.(Emperor Akbar. m. 12 Rajput princesses in total).
Wife from royal family if called Shehzadi/Rajkumari or father is Shezada/Raja. Else they are not from royal background. Some of these women may be cocubines(maid servants)
Edited by myviewprem - 11 years ago
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Children of Akbar as per Jehangirnama with mothers names
So first was Salim from Mariam Makhani
Second Khanum from Salima
Third Murad/Pahry from Kheira
Fourth Daniyal from Mariem(not to be confused with Mariam Makhani)
Fifth Aram Banu from Daulatshah
These are kids who survived childhood and lived to adulthood
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My Dear MyviewPrem,
No offense meant here but My sincere request to you is that pls do NOT put these things up as FACTS as many of them are erroneous...It would be appreciated if you put them as infos from various sources needing citation.(As I said earlier Jehangirnama is NOT a very reliable source). I can very well point out which ones are not right and that too with proper Official Authenticated documents(by The present day descendant of the erstwhile royalty), but that would be another debatable issue and I do not want anybody's sentiment to be hurt...It's gr8 that u r trying to put down info abt Akbar The Great But pls remember, that there are people who will end up believing these as the hardcore truth which would not be a justice to the Late Accomplished Emperor or his relatives for that matter.
I hope you will understand the sentiment working here .We are here to enjoy the serial whole - heartedly and NOT fret on Dark Gloomy debatable infos on the Emperor Akbar and His Wife(wives).

Wishes for Navratri to you and all...😊
Kamal
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Originally posted by: KDR81

My Dear MyviewPrem,
No offense meant here but My sincere request to you is that pls do NOT put these things up as FACTS as many of them are erroneous...It would be appreciated if you put them as infos from various sources needing citation.(As I said earlier Jehangirnama is NOT a very reliable source). I can very well point out which ones are not right and that too with proper Official Authenticated documents(by The present day descendant of the erstwhile royalty), but that would be another debatable issue and I do not want anybody's sentiment to be hurt...It's gr8 that u r trying to put down info abt Akbar The Great But pls remember, that there are people who will end up believing these as the hardcore truth which would not be a justice to the Late Accomplished Emperor or his relatives for that matter.
I hope you will understand the sentiment working here .We are here to enjoy the serial whole - heartedly and NOT fret on Dark Gloomy debatable infos on the Emperor Akbar and His Wife(wives).

Wishes for Navratri to you and all...😊
Kamal

I did not mean to hurt anyone Kamal. Just put some information available on net and books i read i am putting here. I have put a disclaimer on first page. Can you point which points are disputable? It will be great learning experience for all who want to know about history and Akbar. I know history many facts cannot be authenticated as the autor would write based on his benefits and beliefs which may not be true. It will be great if you upload points that are debatable in my fact list. If anyone seraches on google using the important words they can read these facts uploaded by me. Some of these facts are taken from books like The peackok throne, Jehangirnama, Akbarnama, Humayunama.
Wishing you and all readers also a happy dusserha and navratri
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Yes Dear,
I will surely point at the main points on Akbar which are debatable (only a few though ,but choose not to start writing on the same as of now) ,as this Forum is about Akbar and NOT Jehangir😊 (as I already said I do not want to start a history debate here in the forum).

1.Names/Titles of the Begums and their status in the Royal Court
2.The combination of Mother-Baby names and their birth chronology.
3.The assumptions about the reasons made on the actions taken by the emperor during his reign.
4.The great confusion between Legally-wed Begums(Queens) & Concubines (they are NOT maids.BTW...they are what we call Upa-Patni in Hindi) and their importance in the Royal Household.

I once again re-affirm that the things I stated here are for Akbar the Great and NOT Jehangir , as he is for the time-being not the Subject in the Story.

Wishes ,
Kamal


Originally posted by: myviewprem

I did not mean to hurt anyone Kamal. Just put some information available on net and books i read i am putting here. I have put a disclaimer on first page. Can you point which points are disputable? It will be great learning experience for all who want to know about history and Akbar. I know history many facts cannot be authenticated as the autor would write based on his benefits and beliefs which may not be true. It will be great if you upload points that are debatable in my fact list. If anyone seraches on google using the important words they can read these facts uploaded by me. Some of these facts are taken from books like The peackok throne, Jehangirnama, Akbarnama, Humayunama.
Wishing you and all readers also a happy dusserha and navratri

Edited by KDR81 - 11 years ago
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