Outsiders today - Page 2

So people who get linked to several people or are actively dating cannot be self made?

Both Kriti and Kartik are not exceptional actors but both must be really driven to have broken into the industry in today's time when insiders get most of the chances. And both are charming and good lookers. Are they the best we have today? I don't know but they are definitely one of the best in the current gen.

Originally posted by: fantasyshowfan

So people who get linked to several people or are actively dating cannot be self made?

Both Kriti and Kartik are not exceptional actors but both must be really driven to have broken into the industry in today's time when insiders get most of the chances. And both are charming and good lookers. Are they the best we have today? I don't know but they are definitely one of the best in the current gen.

Post 2011 debutants suck, be it nepo or outsiders

Kartik n Kriti both r good. Have seen quite a few of Kriti’s movies and she is more impressive than Tripti..has a better screen presence too.

Regarding rumours of dating or using connections etc..outsiders have always faced it..right from Madhuri to Shilpa Shetty, SSR, Kartik or Kriti.. If Tripti finds that kind of success even she will

Thank goodness we have Kartik. Yes he is not as good Aamir khan but hey it is not easy to fight against Nepo kids PR. Kartik has completed 13 yrs and finally he is getting big projects. But these Nepo kids are well groomed, have acting coaches, big banners, big directors and yet their movies does not work. But again the fight is not against Nepo kids. I root for Bobby Deol, Hrithik and Salman saif. But today star kids are just plain and cannot act. No persona, no personality.

and it took Tripti to perform in Animal to get her due? Isn’t that sad?

Thanks to Karan Johar all big projects going to Nepo kids.

You are absolutely right… since the outsiders are also doing exactly what nepo kids are doing… we are only getting mediocrity served. I guess the scarcity of talent and good content is not completely about Nepotism. But it is also about the treatment of cinema these days. Films these days are considered to be an act of promotion rather than a creative outlet. A hit for an actor or producer doesn’t mean an intent to create a good film but to strengthen his/her resume so that they can do more influencer ads, start a restaurant or makeup line of their own and then milk that short-lived popularity for years. I have a question, if we talk about popular nepos or non-nepos of present days, has anyone of them ever done a film which was made to tell a gripping tale. NO! These days films are made around actors and not like earlier when actors were just a part of a larger canvas.. a stiry, a film. Pathan jawan dunki.. Do they tell any extra ordinary story? NO! Raazi Mimi and Gunjan Saxena, yes they were good films but did they tell anything unique? NO! Did they have anything in them that only an extra ordinary actor can do. NO. So basically films these days are curated to fit an actor’s resume .. to convert them into brands that can mint money for businesses and themselves. Did fighter, bang-bang and war have anything different to offer? NO! Did Bhool bhulaiyya 2 tell any worthy story. NO!

I think there are only two actors from A listers.. Amitabh Bachchan and Aamir khan.. who don’t want films to fit around them but they work in films with good stories and fit like a piece of puzzle in them. 104 not out, Badla, Rang de basanti, TZP, laal singh chadha, dangal. These films were not made to save the careers of Aamir or AB. They were made to tell a tale. Until we have more actors like these who value the art than the profit we will be served mediocrity only. Not only we need nepotism to be in check but we need actors, directors, writers who actually want to deliver a story.

Bhumi pedneker killed it in Bhakshak but nobody talks about it. People only talk about the gym clothes of Janvi Kapoor. Bhakshak was not made to save pedneker’s career but it was made to tell a gripping tale. Many such films.. Thappad, badla, Pink, laapata ladies, kathal. And if you compare it with mediocre films like gunjan saxena, mili, bhool bhulaiya2 you realise how some mediocrely talented people are repeatedly forced down our throats just because they have a better PR game may be.

It's not compulsory to make 3 topics a day. If you have run out of things to say, it is okay

Kriti Sanon, for example, is often in the news for her alleged link-ups with prominent Bollywood figures.

Minty, can you clarify which link-up rumors with prominent Bollywood figures you're referring to? You might be mixing her up with a star from the previous generation who was more famous for her relationships. Kriti is in the news for winning a national award and back-to-back successes, all on her own without relying on any big name.

Originally posted by: FatalFlaw

Kriti Sanon, for example, is often in the news for her alleged link-ups with prominent Bollywood figures.

Minty, can you clarify which link-up rumors with prominent Bollywood figures you're referring to? You might be mixing her up with a star from the previous generation who was more famous for her relationships. Kriti is in the news for winning a national award and back-to-back successes, all on her own without relying on any big name.

Didn't notice this part. I feel like if someone said Tripti was sleeping with Anushka's brother for roles, it would not go down well

Originally posted by: MostlyHarmIess

Didn't notice this part. I feel like if someone said Tripti was sleeping with Anushka's brother for roles, it would not go down well

You said it and nothing happened. Don’t be fearful of what ifs. Just believe in yourself when you say these things and they will land right ☝️

Originally posted by: mintyblue

Just two decades ago, the landscape of the film industry was markedly different. Outsiders who broke into Bollywood were truly outstanding and made their mark with exceptional talent and perseverance. Vidya Balan, Kangana Ranaut, and Deepika Padukone are prime examples of this era. They not only faced the challenges of being outsiders but also set new benchmarks with their performances.

Why have things changed so drastically now?

It's because we r so caught with outsider n insiders that any mediocre that comes out from outsiders we r ready to watch..n then they start thinking they r the best..no ready to improve Maybe.