Let's differentiate between Kansh & Shakuni

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Mama's dialogues are pretty interesting.

He is a self proclaimed criminal who says he can be a Shakuni but not Kansh.

I was happy to slot him as Shaurie's Kansh Mama and he says he is not

What does he want? Unlike Svetalana he doesn't seem to run after luxury .He seemed content in jail with it's own limitations.

Is he after Karuna's downfall really? He is a Sharma to boot.

What now?What do you guys think of Mama?



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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hi...Sim...!


Sorry to ask...! But who is this Kansh & Shakuni...? Demoniac people kya...? 😲


P.S: Don't bother...! After reading Pats comments & detailed explanation...I have my little idea who these two persons are...! πŸ˜‰
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hey Simran, nice post...!!πŸ‘

If we compare both Kansh and Shakuni ...I think Shakuni had some background and reason to what he did for his sisters family sake but Kansh is more dangerous... who knows what Mamaji wants ...also today we do not know their humble beginnings from old Delhi (somehow I still feel he is connected to Mehak's Mom - Meera Sharma)πŸ˜•

Back to the discussion, my views on both these characters ...

Kansh could be defined as mental patient coz he and his sister both had boon from Gods. This made him more than overconfident which led him to lose his brain completely and he started to think himself as God. Everything he was proud of was due to God but he neglected His existence. He used his power in a wrong way, he had hate for Vishnu which is very clear and that made him to try to kill his son Krishna after a heavenly voice prophesied that Devaki's eighth son will slay him, he imprisoned Devaki and her husband and killed all their children; however the eighth son, Krishna, an avataar of the god Vishnu, was transported to gokul(we know the remaining story...) May be that was wrong, but pick up history of Indian Kings or World Kings, they had done worse than killing their own son...

Shakuni was mastermind with lot of brain. Some stories say that Bhishma imprisoned the entire family of Gandhari after her marriage. Everyday, food sent in prison was reduced, family saved their son and gave their bones out of which desire of every Jawari - famous dice were made, some stories say it was injustice done to his sister, as she was married to a blind that made Shakuni to take the vow to destroy the entire Kingdom. But in both the cases thing to keep in mind is he smartly planned his every step. He did things slowly and keeping himself cool unlike Kans whose BP was always high. In both stories it is clear that he loved his family and sister...

Now, we need to know whether Mamaji is after Shaurya's life or he wants to revenge him and his Dad for some injustice done to his sister and her family (which includes him and his brother's families) to know whether he is a Kansh or a Shakuni ...πŸ˜•

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Nice question... Sanjay is really cool villain among all jokers and his wife too !!
He said he is shakuni not khansh ...then how cum shaurya drowning in pool...??
Can we cum to conclusion tat he just wants to hurt SK not kill him ???
May just want SK to be alone for rest of his life so tat they can enjoy all the luxury ???

If it so ..then I think ..the main motive of sanjay and his co is to seperate mehrya ... !!
Not kill them ...
I can't totally trust sanjay words thou ...
he once said that panchiyoun ko phadphadnae do ..shikaaar ka maza thabhi aata hai ???
Wat did he really meant by shikaar ??? Wanted to hurt them or kill one and leave the other to sufferπŸ˜•

Its really confusing !!!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Bang on post Simi!!!
I always feel the antagonist hidden motive and intention are very unsorted. Motive doesn't seem just to acquire hotel business but it's much more. He wanted a control on Shaurya so that can work for him but eventually that thing never happen. Sense him most dangerous because he is able to read on people's mind. How easily able to grasp Rajiv insecurity, Mehek middle class morals to be taken in advantage for breaking alliance. Really intrigue with his personality, seems interesting.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Thabassum-

Nice question... Sanjay is really cool villain among all jokers and his wife too !!

He said he is shakuni not khansh ...then how cum shaurya drowning in pool...??
Can we cum to conclusion tat he just wants to hurt SK not kill him ???
May just want SK to be alone for rest of his life so tat they can enjoy all the luxury ???

If it so ..then I think ..the main motive of sanjay and his co is to seperate mehrya ... !!
Not kill them ...
I can't totally trust sanjay words thou ...he said that panchiyoun ko phadphadnae do ..shukar ka maza thabhi aata hai ???
Wat did he really mentor by shikaar ???

Its really confusing !!!


Thabs, he is Kans paadhi...Shakuni paadhi types ...πŸ˜† He himself is unsure...πŸ˜†
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@Thabs- Shaurie's drowning am wondering whether it's symbolic of him being thrown into deep end of some emotional trauma.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Both Kansa & Shakuni had sister issues, Sanjay himself clarified that he is a Shakuni ie a person who is mentally calm & not a tyrant, so he is not driven by ego but will act only once he has analysed & weighed the situation throughly, this makes him more dangerous because he is not going to to give in 'josh 'but will execute plans with 'hosh'!!
Going by the promo it looks like Shaurya will find himself between the devil (ET) & the deep blue sea (under water) .
Sanjay is at par with Shaurya in mental games, unlike Svetlana & Rajiv who were trying to keep up,as soon as Sanjay entered the frame, he came in between the happy MehRya ..Sanjay's character is intriguing & the thrill and interest level (at least for meπŸ˜†)increased since yesterday's episode.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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He is the bad guy but good performing bad guy.
Shakuni was clever man loved his sister and nephew where as Kaans hated him nephew as he was declared to be his destroyer.
So he is shaking mind with Kaans heart
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: asyafann

Hey Simran, nice post...!!πŸ‘


If we compare both Kansh and Shakuni ...I think Shakuni had some background and reason to what he did for his sisters family sake but Kansh is more dangerous... who knows what Mamaji wants ...also today we do not know their humble beginnings from old Delhi (somehow I still feel he is connected to Mehak's Mom - Meera Sharma)πŸ˜•

Back to the discussion, my views on both these characters ...

Kansh could be defined as mental patient coz he and his sister both had boon from Gods. This made him more than overconfident which led him to lose his brain completely and he started to think himself as God. Everything he was proud of was due to God but he neglected His existence. He used his power in a wrong way, he had hate for Vishnu which is very clear and that made him to try to kill his son Krishna after a heavenly voice prophesied that Devaki's eighth son will slay him, he imprisoned Devaki and her husband and killed all their children; however the eighth son, Krishna, an avataar of the god Vishnu, was transported to gokul(we know the remaining story...) May be that was wrong, but pick up history of Indian Kings or World Kings, they had done worse than killing their own son...

Shakuni was mastermind with lot of brain. Some stories say that Bhishma imprisoned the entire family of Gandhari after her marriage. Everyday, food sent in prison was reduced, family saved their son and gave their bones out of which desire of every Jawari - famous dice were made, some stories say it was injustice done to his sister, as she was married to a blind that made Shakuni to take the vow to destroy the entire Kingdom. But in both the cases thing to keep in mind is he smartly planned his every step. He did things slowly and keeping himself cool unlike Kans whose BP was always high. In both stories it is clear that he loved his family and sister...

Now, we need to know whether Mamaji is after Shaurya's life or he wants to revenge him and his Dad for some injustice done to his sister and her family (which includes him and his brother's families) to know whether he is a Kansh or a Shakuni ...πŸ˜•


Hi Patsy,

The story i know is that Shakuni's whole family sacrificed their life to keep him alive in prison as they were given very little food/head and all of them gave him their share, so that he could survive and avenge on their behalf.
IMO, Kansh's agenda was for more self preserving,short term and Shakuni was after revenge and wove his devious web slowly over years and nobody even realised he was getting back at them.

Mama seems to have an overlap of both the characters,veering more to Shakuni.πŸ˜†
I hope the Cvs have a strong back story to make this character strong & shine.
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