Setting new Norms

According to Abhira's dialogues written by great writers of all times, it's difficult for a man to let the mother of his child die to save his child's life. As he was holding his child with love, he made the right choice. She even planned ahead to choose preschool for BSP (baby sharma poddar) if she dies, Armaan will happily live with his child (as per her perception). What are writers justifying here? A man who "intentionally" chose baby's life over his wife's life is a superman? so what, if he decided death for his life-partner when he could safe her. Abhira will also become a superwoman after sacrificing her life, after depriving her child of mother's love & her Armaan of his only family. Armaan will choose the baby after a few months, right now he will choose Abhira only. That's why she is not informing him about her life-threatening pregnancy. Great logic! Though we all know Abhira will miraculously live & her baby will survive while inheriting a genetic disorder, but showing a woman choosing to die infact planning things for her child's life after her death, is so depressing.

Why these writers set so many wrong examples before? Suwarna & Manjiri set wrong example by not cursing and abusing their DIL, for not venting out their frustration over food, even when their right to become a grandmother of their eldest son's child was taken away. Such a disgraceful way to highlight womanhood. Grace is what Vidya depicted over food. How can infertile Abhira snatch Ruhi's right to have kheer? I truly never saw such wonderful dialogues "laalchi" "tum ney kyun churayi" "ruhi ka hissa cheen liya" "kheer khane sey maa nahi ban jao gi" over food in any of the popular primetime ITV fiction till today. Great standards Abhira was standing there quiet? Apologized as she thinks Vidya is right in addressing her "chor" & "lalchi"? She was giving justifications maine jaan bujh kar kheer nahi khai thi like seriously? Abhira should stay like that, as she might not be able to digest food without getting "daily dose of humiliation".

Sons/daughters or DILs who are abused & mistreated by their families must stay in their family & keep trying. Distancing yourself from toxicity and starting afresh is an old norm. New norm is staying in toxic environment and keep absorbing the toxicity infact getting addicted to toxicity should be the new norm, let the unborn baby also absorb negative energies and toxicity. Stockholm syndrome & victim shaming is so cool. Why writers didn't write similar masterpiece highlighting the coolest form of stockholm syndrome & victim shaming for Gen 1, 2 & 3? Why they set a wrong example & gave such phuski non-dramatic "positive" infertility or complicated pregnancy tracks before? So bad, we viewers were deprived of a Gen 4's masterpiece writeup & execution for years.

Abhira's biological mother was termed a killer recently, she doesn't care anymore? When a woman conceives, it's natural to get close to your mother, feeling more emotionally connected & grateful to her. What surprised me was she didn't even once fondly remembered her mother after conceiving, all she cares about is, Vidya maa ka ashirwaad lena hai "curses toh main deserve karti thi", "Vidya mata maa hain main unki narazgi door karke rahoon gi" "maa bachon ka bhala chahti hai" "agar maa ney kaha keh main bura saaya hoon toh main hun" that's what she believes in truly. Besides normalizing abuse, she is being unfair to Armaan. Aborting the baby or keeping it should be his decision too alongwith hers, she is deciding & choosing what she believes to be his happiness for him without even informing him. What she wants to do with her life, her body though it is self-harm but it's her choice. But why she is choosing what's best for him? Armaan being the father of the child has right to know and make a choice like she did.

Abhira is apologizing for snatching other people's rights, stealing food & being a bad omen for a pregnant woman. What's left? Vidya slapping Abhira & Abhira still apologizing to her? She already pushed her or hurt her physically by snatching engagement ring. Are Vidya, Ruhi or Abhira mentally sane? I doubt. Is the writer mentally sound? No. All three of them normalized venomous toxic words, mental and physical abuse. OG Akshara had an outburst infront of her MIL when she once taunted her for being a careless mother, 100+ years ago (according to show's timeline). Why writers are not making Abhira feel emotions like sadness, pain, depression, anger & outburst? Crying 24/7 without speaking a word against abusers isn't sadness. Why BV turned Abhira's character into an unrecognizable version when it's not even rising TRP?

Characters like Keerti, Devyani, Manjiri, Naira, Akshu should have tolerated abuse by in-laws/husband, why they set wrong examples? Vidya and Ruhi will never face any consequences for their words & actions. Antagonists of yrkkh S4 are always right. Spit venom and behave holier then thou. That should be the way to live. Self-righteous psychopaths are a threat to mental sanity of people around them. They can anytime be deranged & then play victim. But did Vidya and Ruhi's mental sickness effect Abhira's grey matter too?

You are absolutely right but the thing is that expecting logic and sense from ITV serials is like asking sun to rise from west, or any other direction except east

The makers have long forgotten what Abhira was supposed to be and represent, same goes for Ruhi. Abhira was supposed to be the logical and sane career woman while Ruhi was supposed to be the glue for a family, loving and caring, nurturing her family and all.

But they have made Abhira into the submissive daughter-in-law, whose in-laws can commit no wrong, whatever they say is the reality because they are the elders and it is her duty to listen to their taunts and insults and bear all the abuse silently.

As for Ruhi, the makers cannot decide if they want her to be a positive character or a negative one. She has now turned into the evil and scheming woman who wants to throw her sister/sister-in-law out of the house.

That Chachi sa is clearly an idiot. I can't believe that one of my fav actress who played such an amazing character in Badi Door Se Aaye Hain, is playing this annoying character.

As for the mother-in-law, she is nuts!

Originally posted by: itsShonali

You are absolutely right but the thing is that expecting logic and sense from ITV serials is like asking sun to rise from west, or any other direction except east

The makers have long forgotten what Abhira was supposed to be and represent, same goes for Ruhi. Abhira was supposed to be the logical and sane career woman while Ruhi was supposed to be the glue for a family, loving and caring, nurturing her family and all.

But they have made Abhira into the submissive daughter-in-law, whose in-laws can commit no wrong, whatever they say is the reality because they are the elders and it is her duty to listen to their taunts and insults and bear all the abuse silently.

As for Ruhi, the makers cannot decide if they want her to be a positive character or a negative one. She has now turned into the evil and scheming woman who wants to throw her sister/sister-in-law out of the house.

That Chachi sa is clearly an idiot. I can't believe that one of my fav actress who played such an amazing character in Badi Door Se Aaye Hain, is playing this annoying character.

As for the mother-in-law, she is nuts!

I am amused when I listen Ruhi's words about Sasural mein yeh dono bhi yahi karenge aage jake.

It's just like she is a mahan soul in her sasural that not committed any kand before..

Ruhi's Maham dialogue in front of Vidhyaanisha,Kajal,Fufasa amused me so much.

Like she is a lier,cheater,dhongi Bahu.

Who herself did many kands in her sasural and everyone knew about it includjng Chachisa,Dadisa,Her Husband Rohi,Armaan adn Abhira,Manish and most imp. Swarna..

Everyone knew what she did in past and now she is saying this huge big big responsible dialogue and doing natak while took her hand in tummy what us this nonsense man.

Originally posted by: Maanbhira

I am amused when I listen Ruhi's words about Sasural mein yeh dono bhi yahi karenge aage jake.

It's just like she is a mahan soul in her sasural that not committed any kand before..

Ruhi's Maham dialogue in front of Vidhyaanisha,Kajal,Fufasa amused me so much.

Like she is a lier,cheater,dhongi Bahu.

Who herself did many kands in her sasural and everyone knew about it includjng Chachisa,Dadisa,Her Husband Rohi,Armaan adn Abhira,Manish and most imp. Swarna..

Everyone knew what she did in past and now she is saying this huge big big responsible dialogue and doing natak while took her hand in tummy what us this nonsense man.

See, I prefer Ruhi over Abhira and I would always like Ruhi over Abhira because I have liked Ruhi since previous generation and with Abhira I could never connect. It is not about the actor because Sam's character Saavi from her previous show is still one of my favorites.

I think it is because to make Saavi look good and nice, the makers did not have to make a good character turn bad. The villain in that show, Saavi's sister was already a rude and selfish character, she was already negative.

Whereas here, the makers ruined a perfectly good character - Ruhi - to let Abhira shine while they turned Abhira into just another submissive daughter-in-law is something that makes me hate Abhira.

Had it been the Abhira what she was supposed to, she would have disclosed everything that Ruhi did. And frankly, I don't care what Ruhi does now because the makers once again made her character to be negative so she is doing what a negative character is meant to. No complaints there.

But Abhira She has lost it.

The villains are doing their job, the problem lies in the female lead who is letting them do so.

I don't think Abhira is normal now.She is in depression now.Right now she needs a psychiatrist more than a Gynaecologist.She said she always affected by absence of her father and now she is thinking her child will be ok without it's mother.iss tarah apni life sacrifice karke bacha Diya toh Armaan toot jaungi.wo Armaan kaise bache ko sambal payega?Did she want her child to be raised in that toxic house and become a victim and thinking cursing bullying others are normal?Did she want her child to be another Armaan who always alone ,live by pleasing others, abandoned by others when he needed them most?

And for Armaan Some mistakes are irreversible.when destiny give you something valuable,learn to cherish it.He ran after conditional love leaving his unconditional love to be suffer alone.Mental scars are difficult to be cure than physical scars.

For Ruhi and Vidya,what should I say?Their real place is in some cell of central jail.what they are doing is domestic abuse.Dear Goenkas,you successfully raised a criminal .They have to answer aarohi when they meet her after death.What I understood from post leap aarohi that she never wanted her to become like preleap version of her.its worse than that I think.

Originally posted by: Maanbhira

I am amused when I listen Ruhi's words about Sasural mein yeh dono bhi yahi karenge aage jake.

It's just like she is a mahan soul in her sasural that not committed any kand before..

Ruhi's Maham dialogue in front of Vidhyaanisha,Kajal,Fufasa amused me so much.

Like she is a lier,cheater,dhongi Bahu.

Who herself did many kands in her sasural and everyone knew about it includjng Chachisa,Dadisa,Her Husband Rohi,Armaan adn Abhira,Manish and most imp. Swarna..

Everyone knew what she did in past and now she is saying this huge big big responsible dialogue and doing natak while took her hand in tummy what us this nonsense man.

Why to touch on tummy while saying these things? woh bacha kya kya sun rahi hogi inse?uss bache ko toh chod do while spitting venom for others.

Originally posted by: elizamerin

Why to touch on tummy while saying these things? woh bacha kya kya sun rahi hogi inse?uss bache ko toh chod do while spitting venom for others.

Exactly what's a madness and trend in itv.

If they announce they are Pregnent we understand that they are.

They understand that audience don't know how pregnency work so show everything explicit like touching tummy for emotional sentimental and fooling audience only.

Originally posted by: Maanbhira

They understand that audience don't know how pregnency work so show everything explicit like touching tummy for emotional sentimental and fooling audience only.

Ummm bhai... that's not true. Ofcourse their target audience knows how and what happens in pregnancy. Touching tummy is also normal for women who are pregnant. Yes, it adds emotional value to the scene but yeh sab shows mei bhi dikhate rehte hai yaar

Abhira is choti upmaaaaa.

Upmaaa loves her baa bhagvan more than her own mother. Upmaaaaa bhi daily dose of humiliation apne baa Bhagvan leti hai and aise he reactions deti hai jaise abhira deti hai.

Writer is so obsessed with upma character so dkp ke sab show ki leads ko upma bana dete hai

Makers are showing Upma ki jawani ke din through Abhira