General discussion thread #11 - Page 122

Originally posted by: BeingBlunt

Lol. Isme itna shocking kya hai?

If 2 shows have had similar stuff they will compared.

Like Vanshaj and Hello Brother.

Waise bhi it's 2 cult meme shows getting compared. SSK is self explanatory.

CID maybe legendary for us we like it a lot but it's known mostly for memes in current internet gen. Mostly positively but it's a cult meme/jokes show. So much so that there is a whole company (rvcj) based on its memes. And there is a current trend of substituting original CID dialogues with abusive dialogues using AI in shorts/reels.

I played one in open seeing CID thumbnail and was shocked. Thankfully no one was around. Now I don't play any CID short/clip without headphones.

Yeah those dubbed CID shorts are unbelievable

But idc about the episodes belonging to the meme era....for me CID ends at ep 394....everything that followed was a messy fanfiction

Originally posted by: rbpll

Haven't seen paro waala show but i know which show you are talking about.

I was mayur fan but i also liked saajan. Their love journey was realistic than mayur. Aur gunjan ke suits bade payaare hote the😍.

Yes Saajan were realistic I agree n der relationship was very sweet.

Originally posted by: CID-fan-394

What is SSK2?

Post is less than 5 words

Sasural simar ka season 2

Originally posted by: CID-fan-394

You seriously compared CID with shit a show like Sasural Simar ka?

Nahi compare nahi kiya yeh photo dekh kar merek lag raha hai ki yeh bhi kuch episodes inhe dkkha kar cast change kar denge

I just watched an edit and the way the editor had put up a romantic sad song on all the scenes where Arnav was manhandling her/being physically abusive, whether it was twisting Khushi’s arm or tightly holding her was so wrong, didn’t sit right with me. As an 11 year old, even I romanticised that sort of behaviour and maybe part of the female psyche finds it sexually arousing too(s and m/bdsm) but it’s quite toxic if we see that from a real life perspective. As a 23 year old educated woman, I don’t think I would ever date a man like Arnav now, someone who has both physically and emotionally abused Khushi and has alot of red flags. The whole beauty changes the beast with her love is unrealistic tbh.

Arnav never got a redemption track not even bothered to say a single sorry to khushi and moreover his confession was also in anger. No matter how much I loved 'i love u damn it' i can't take in what situation it was done. if she agreed to suhaagraat he would've never confessed to her. That's kind of lame writing

I hated it when they made Lavanya into a Khushi clone because Nani wanted a “susheel sanskari bharatiya nari”🤡. They literally changed her personality and made her a khushi ripoff. Their whole subliminal messaging that women who wear western/short clothes like dresses or skirts are immoral and promiscuous? To be an ideal woman, u had to be domesticated and homely.😒It was 2011 and yet policing women’s bodily autonomy and choices in desi culture was so rampant! And this persists throughout the serial. Also Khushi’s costumes were cringe as hell. Heck even Payal had better costumes!The worst styling I’ve ever seen. As much as I loved ipkknd , I just have to call as spade a spade! The fact that Khushi literally crossdressed as an school peon but can’t wear track pants for a basketball game because I guess that was against “indian culture”🤦‍♀️ Also her character towards the end just became really clownish in some tracks but yeah Sanaya carried it off with her acting!

I would suggest you to drop this one out if you have bare minimum common sense about how a healthy relationship looks like. I get that drama is named as it is for a reason but till an extent. Arnav was red flag through and through, Khushi was a doormat, anjali was dumber than dumbest and rest of the characters were equally toxic or backbone less.

Finally someone said what was needed to be said.

I am gonna be downvoted but just like kyun ki saas bhi kabhi bahu thi totally changed the trajectory of Indian family dramas same Iss pyar ko kya nam doon has changed Indian romcom dramas worst possible way.

I myself used to be a huge fan back then in my highschool. Crush on him but when I look back I understand where it came from I can't even stand single scene of them without remembering how horrible Arnav was to Khushi and he never got any redemption, not even a sorry. They totally whitewashed him under disguise of love.

An example spoiler if you haven't reached it yet, after shyam exposed drama, khushi wanted to move away but Arnav king had realized his love so instead of making him beg khushi for what he did to her out of a dumb as f*** assumption in short tempter(yes I call it dumb because in that conversation with Shyam khushi clearly looked uncomfortable), he planned to scare tf outta her, so that she comes running to hug him? And that proves she can't live without him? Wtf!!!!!!!!!!

How is this show still being romanticized in 2024 where you know the influence in nostalgia is beyond my understanding. I also enjoyed it when I was unaware of a lot of things but please grown up women can do a lot better than this I am not kidding.

Everyday I see on twitter noone did it like them. They did what? Whatever they did noone should do even. Good actors, good chemistry, good background music that's all the asset of this show. No depth in story, a tone deaf ML, hyper fluctuating FL's breathing they did nothing. That was just our childhood conditional thinking a toxic man and submissive woman are romantic. The more rudeness, controlling and nonconsensual the more romance.

This is just mirror reflection version of how incels hail movies like animal Kabir Singh nothing else.

Reviews like these made me thankful that I haven't watched it

People take shows so literally oh god. I watch shows for fun or time pass, i dont go in all this details or overthink all this. Shows r called fiction for a reason, take fiction as fiction dont take it as non-fiction.
all shows r toxic but people still watch it coz they r watching for time pass or fun. If everyone analyze this much then no one will watch tv shows

Originally posted by: SoniRita

People take shows so literally oh god. I watch shows for fun or time pass, i dont go in all this details or overthink all this. Shows r called fiction for a reason, take fiction as fiction dont take it as non-fiction.
all shows r toxic but people still watch it coz they r watching for time pass or fun. If everyone analyze this much then no one will watch tv shows

This is exactly my opinion. A lot of people can't differentiate reel/virtual/scripted from real.

Its called FICTION for a reason. It's not the creators responsibility to make it realoatic/idealistic. Even after multiple disclaimers if people can't differentiate and analyze like it's psychological thesis of human brain what can people do.

Thank goodness these things never affect me. Maybe It will be in my mind and I will think for a day or 2 but it won't get me tensed etc. The last time a tv show that troubled me was BB13 because I'd high noise and BP raising stuff. After that I watched a lot of Bigg Boss on Mute.

Imagine people start analyzing CID/Arjun and all those crime thriller fictions with how really stuff works u real police station.

That's one reason trash works. Because everyone knows it's trash and will never happen in reality. So people watch it for escape from reality/daily life/work.

Originally posted by: Moonks

I just watched an edit and the way the editor had put up a romantic sad song on all the scenes where Arnav was manhandling her/being physically abusive, whether it was twisting Khushi’s arm or tightly holding her was so wrong, didn’t sit right with me. As an 11 year old, even I romanticised that sort of behaviour and maybe part of the female psyche finds it sexually arousing too(s and m/bdsm) but it’s quite toxic if we see that from a real life perspective. As a 23 year old educated woman, I don’t think I would ever date a man like Arnav now, someone who has both physically and emotionally abused Khushi and has alot of red flags. The whole beauty changes the beast with her love is unrealistic tbh.

Arnav never got a redemption track not even bothered to say a single sorry to khushi and moreover his confession was also in anger. No matter how much I loved 'i love u damn it' i can't take in what situation it was done. if she agreed to suhaagraat he would've never confessed to her. That's kind of lame writing

I hated it when they made Lavanya into a Khushi clone because Nani wanted a “susheel sanskari bharatiya nari”🤡. They literally changed her personality and made her a khushi ripoff. Their whole subliminal messaging that women who wear western/short clothes like dresses or skirts are immoral and promiscuous? To be an ideal woman, u had to be domesticated and homely.😒It was 2011 and yet policing women’s bodily autonomy and choices in desi culture was so rampant! And this persists throughout the serial. Also Khushi’s costumes were cringe as hell. Heck even Payal had better costumes!The worst styling I’ve ever seen. As much as I loved ipkknd , I just have to call as spade a spade! The fact that Khushi literally crossdressed as an school peon but can’t wear track pants for a basketball game because I guess that was against “indian culture”🤦‍♀️ Also her character towards the end just became really clownish in some tracks but yeah Sanaya carried it off with her acting!

I would suggest you to drop this one out if you have bare minimum common sense about how a healthy relationship looks like. I get that drama is named as it is for a reason but till an extent. Arnav was red flag through and through, Khushi was a doormat, anjali was dumber than dumbest and rest of the characters were equally toxic or backbone less.

Finally someone said what was needed to be said.

I am gonna be downvoted but just like kyun ki saas bhi kabhi bahu thi totally changed the trajectory of Indian family dramas same Iss pyar ko kya nam doon has changed Indian romcom dramas worst possible way.

I myself used to be a huge fan back then in my highschool. Crush on him but when I look back I understand where it came from I can't even stand single scene of them without remembering how horrible Arnav was to Khushi and he never got any redemption, not even a sorry. They totally whitewashed him under disguise of love.

An example spoiler if you haven't reached it yet, after shyam exposed drama, khushi wanted to move away but Arnav king had realized his love so instead of making him beg khushi for what he did to her out of a dumb as f*** assumption in short tempter(yes I call it dumb because in that conversation with Shyam khushi clearly looked uncomfortable), he planned to scare tf outta her, so that she comes running to hug him? And that proves she can't live without him? Wtf!!!!!!!!!!

How is this show still being romanticized in 2024 where you know the influence in nostalgia is beyond my understanding. I also enjoyed it when I was unaware of a lot of things but please grown up women can do a lot better than this I am not kidding.

Everyday I see on twitter noone did it like them. They did what? Whatever they did noone should do even. Good actors, good chemistry, good background music that's all the asset of this show. No depth in story, a tone deaf ML, hyper fluctuating FL's breathing they did nothing. That was just our childhood conditional thinking a toxic man and submissive woman are romantic. The more rudeness, controlling and nonconsensual the more romance.

This is just mirror reflection version of how incels hail movies like animal Kabir Singh nothing else.

Reviews like these made me thankful that I haven't watched it

I used to watch ipkknd and left it midway

Unfortunately no matter how much progressive and woke things are mentioned in social media, there is always audience for such ML's, fl's, and content in mainstream movies and tv shows and will be there for a longest time. Things are not going to change anytime soon. There is a reason movies like kabir singh and animals are sucessful in box office.

Originally posted by: rbpll

I used to watch ipkknd and left it midway

Unfortunately no matter how much progressive and woke things are mentioned in social media, there is always audience for such ML's, fl's, and content in mainstream movies and tv shows and will be there for a longest time. Things are not going to change anytime soon. There is a reason movies like kabir singh and animals are sucessful in box office.

Not "anytime soon". I have accepted the fact that it will remain like this forever.

Originally posted by: rbpll

I used to watch ipkknd and left it midway

Unfortunately no matter how much progressive and woke things are mentioned in social media, there is always audience for such ML's, fl's, and content in mainstream movies and tv shows and will be there for a longest time. Things are not going to change anytime soon. There is a reason movies like kabir singh and animals are sucessful in box office.

I think it's not just IPK, most of Gul Khan had the same layout of love story

Rich tycoon ML, over bubbly chirpy FL who works for ML and starts calling him with strange names. ML is initially irritated by the FL, but slowly starts appreciating her when some MU happens and then he becomes a beast....

Later MU clears and then they start loving..

Her shows have physical assault at the drop of hat, Qubool Hai me don't know how many times Asad hit Zoya(and she wasn't even his gf), IPK you already said, Ishqbaaz me Shivaaye mistreated Anika but pinning her onto bed and literally putting his legs beside her, DBO me Omkara did something similar...

So called progressive Zoya or Anika only wore modern dresses, else were exactly like Khushi

It's about choices but I personally don't like such demeaning behaviour being forgotten without a mention at the end... All the more romanticizing of such behaviour.

I think the TV shows are actually degrading the women empowerment thing with passage of time. During lockdown I saw some 80s shows of DD and the women there were much more progressive in thoughts. To be honest I think even Tulsis and Parvatis of 2000s were more progressive than now...

Ekta raised the issue of marital r**e in 2000s...