Originally posted by: D3viL
Rani is an interesting little case for me, not just because she is a little person. But enlighten me (just a little - i am no clochette.. I don't care about anyone or anything..except where is abhishek bachchans self respect and how come he doesnt hide in a cave?...- by the way did you ever go into PM land with clochette? I hope not..that was very entertaining..and if there was more of it .. we'd like to see please?! ) anyway so rani backstabbed aish and took her movie.. aish backstabbed rani and took her boyfriend..then rani went and backstabbed the first Mrs chopra ..and took her husband ? No girl code at all I tell you ..none at all. What do you think of ranis dress sense these days?
I think you're referring to the discussion in this thread right.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5361271?pn=3
Yes, Clochette and I continued our discussion via pm so I'm afraid there isn't a resolution for you and anyone else who was publicly following that thread. But tbh, our pms weren't particularly incendiary and there were no "fireworks," if that's what you were expecting. And in our discussions, I digress a lot, so the conversation didn't last on Aish vs Rani very long although I was certainly game to continue lol. So you're not missing anything as most of my response was posted publicly in that thread. There was very little beyond that pertinent to the subject.
Lol at your comments about Abhishek. I saw an interview with Shweta recently where she talks about how she doesn't believe you can be friends with your family. That friends are an escape from family and there are lines you cannot cross with family. She was sitting with her daughter and Jaya. Jaya completely disagreed with Shweta and said she doesn't believe that. She thinks you can be friends with your family members. Jaya and her granddaughter both said they are friends with each other and Shweta buzzes in and says that's not possible. I thought what arrogance she has to claim this about her daughter and mother's relationship which has nothing to do with her, but she's telling them they aren't really friends even though they both say they are. It's also very telling to me that Shweta said you cannot pick family and you are stuck with them unlike friends. It's obvious this means she doesn't really like her family and she's stuck with them so I'm sure Abhishek has a very similar view. Explains a lot in that dysfunctional family when Jaya comes across as the sensible one.
Rani and Aish have a bit of a sordid history. There are rumors that Rani hooked up with Salman at some point. Rumors also that Vivek and Rani were involved or Rani wanted to be involved with him until he ditched her for Aishwarya. So it seems there was a lot of jealousy on Rani's part. Very similar to one of the early reasons for the feud between Hollywood legends Joan Crawford and Bette Davis, where the former was considered the most beautiful woman in the world while the latter was considered very plain if not ugly. Joan's second husband was someone Bette had a romantic interest in while they made a film together but he only had eyes for Joan and they were married shortly afterwards. Bette claimed Joan stole that man from her but the truth is that Bette never had a relationship with him and never had a chance so he never showed an interest to her. And this scenario would repeat a few times afterwards. They're both my favorite Hollywood actresses but Joan is my #1 fav so I find it interesting that in the Bollywood equivalent, I also sympathize more with Joan/Aishwarya over the Bette/Rani.
I wouldn't say Aishwarya stole Abhishek from Rani though because Rani/Abhishek had already ended before Aish came into his life. And Rani has herself to blame for the breakup of that relationship because his parents despised her. She had given Amitabh problems on Black because he didn't feel comfortable with the onscreen kiss as she was dating his son. Rani made it very clear that not only was the kiss not going anywhere but neither was she. If Amitabh had an issue with the kiss, he could drop out of the film, she wasn't. She had already been linked to Aditya Chopra at this point so both Amitabh and Jaya did not like Rani as a daughter-in-law because they knew about her homewrecking ways. Jaya was also peeved because Rani tried to get the media to paint her as the new Jaya, as both were Bengali and both had a huge height difference with the Bachchan men. So no, Rani never had a real shot with the Bachchans because of her own history. This is why anyone who claims the Bachchans didn't like Aishwarya's past are clearly in the wrong because they never rejected Aishwarya, whereas they outright rejected Rani for her past (and present).
Also keep in mind that Kjo revealed that during the filming of KANK, Abhishek revealed to him that he was in love with Aish. So you can imagine the tension on that set between Rani and Abhishek.
Another thing about Payal Chopra is that Rani actually befriended her. So many people say that Aish was the lucky one because she had no husband for Rani to take. Aish only lost film offers whereas Payal lost her husband to this woman who pretended to be a friend. Against the Chopras' wishes since Yash Chopra refused to accept Rani as a daughter-in-law which is why Rani only married Adi after Yash Chopra passed away. There's something very diabolical about taking advantage of his death for her own social progress up the ladder.
As for Rani's dress sense, I think she's slightly improved now because she used to be considered one of the worst dressed celebs. Now her outfits are still bad but not as bad. There are threads on here that chronicled how horrible her fashion was. I still remember in Bombay Talkies, I thought she looked horrific in that star-studded song. I remember all the comments used to say Rani looked atrocious but I only later found out that each star was responsible for their own look in that song so that's why Rani looked so bad, because she dressed and styled herself.
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