Aishwarya Rai was never a real actress - Page 2

Originally posted by: RaniPreityAish

The ironic thing is that apparently Kajol was not happy with the size of her role in MNIK especially in the second half. Maybe this is why KJo felt guilty and got her the Filmfare. Not surprisingly, she was not even nominated at the IIFA Awards for MNIK.

To add to Aish's awards list, she also won an award in the South for playing Nandini in PS-1. Specifically the Ananda Vikatan Cinema Award for Best Female Actor in a Negative Role.

For Sarbjit, she won the Best Actress award at the International Film Festival and Awards of Australia (IFFAA).

https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/aishwarya-rai-bachchan-wins-best-actress-award-for-sarbjit-at-international-film-festival-4558040/

Also for Sarbjit, she was a top two contender for the National Award. She was the only Bollywood actress up for consideration.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/malayalam/movies/news/national-film-awards-it-was-surabhi-vs-aishwarya-rai-in-the-final-round-this-year/articleshow/58065304.cms

She has been praised by Beyonce for her acting in Devdas. Tom Hiddleston said Devdas is his favorite movie.

What people don't realize about her role in Mohabbatein was that it was kept a secret. Her image was kept out of all the marketing and promotion to make it a real surprise when she appeared in the actual movie because it was such a big deal that her star had risen so high and now she was starring alongside the two biggest actors of all time, Big B and SRK. Audiences went crazy over her role in Mohabbatein and Yash Raj capitalized on this by changing all the film's promotion to feature her everywhere. Now you can't find a poster or piece of merchandise from Mohabbatein without Aishwarya on it, whether the movie poster, DVD, cassette, etc.

Gadar was another film she was first choice for alongside Kajol.

Dostana and Happy New Year were both offered to her first but she refused on both counts so as to not upstage her husband.

Jawan was originally offered to Aish before Deepika (as you've noted in other posts but I'm including here to remind others).

Bhool Bhulaiyaa and Parineeta were both meant for Aishwarya.

Karan has confirmed that he wanted Aish in K3G. He felt obligated to ask Kajol because of his friendship and thought she would say no, due to her marriage, leaving him free to hire Aish but Kajol surprisingly said yes (perhaps upon learning the film role was really meant for Aish!)

Darr was originally meant to debut Aish as well.

And we all know about the Chalte Chalte and Veer-Zaara debacles.

Not to mention Bajirao Mastani which was meant for her and Salman before their breakup.

And let's not forget that the Hollywood epic, Troy, was meant for Aishwarya. She would have starred alongside Orlando Bloom and Brad Pitt, the two biggest heartthrobs of the era during that time, but she refused because she would not come onscreen to portray nudity.

I had no idea about English Vinglish, Fanaa, Koi Mil Giya, and Krrish. What missed opportunities. This shows how much love Sridevi had for Aishwarya since they were very good friends that she wanted her to play the same role but in Hindi. Also you can tell that Sri and Boney Kapoor loved Aish since they also cast her for the item song in Shakti: The Power.

At least with Preity taking the role in Koi Mil Giya, Aish and Preity have always been good friends. Unlike Rani, Preity made sure to ask Aish if she was okay with her replacing her on Veer-Zaara and other movies. Aish had no problem because Preity had the courtesy to check with her friend. From that day onward, the Aish/Rani friendship, once as close as sisters, was broken and now Aish/Preity were besties and continue to be to this day. Very strange behavior on Rani's part to not check in with her best friend over the incident. The same Rani who said she cried for days when she learned that KJo cast Preity in Kal Ho Naa Ho after firing Bebo...and this role was never even meant for Rani in any shape or form. She was that hurt about learning about this news from a secondhand source yet it never dawned on her that stealing her best friend's roles wasn't something she should approach her first about???

Fanaa being taken away from Aish shows how unfair and petty Aamir is. He was still angry that Aishwarya refused to star in his flop film Mangal Pandey, which Rani had no problem coming in, so he took it out on her by forever blacklisting her. He only wanted Kajol because as much as he hated Aish, he hated SRK and KJo more and wanted to rub in their faces that he got Kajol over them in KANK.

Not only is Aishwarya the face of Bollywood and Indian culture in western eyes, she is also one of the few women to be granted the title of the most beautiful woman in the world. In Hollywood, this title was only granted to a few and always Hollywood actresses. In the 1930s, it was Joan Crawford. By the late 30s it was Vivien Leigh. By the 40s it was Hedy Lamarr, Gene Tierney, Linda Darnell, and Ingrid Bergman. By the 50s it was Elizabeth Taylor. And so on and on. By the 2000s, Hollywood was declaring an Indian actress the greatest beauty in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06_M0F-9KPE&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.indiaforums.com%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&feature=emb_title

At the Olympics, this Bollywood figure skating act was entirely based on Aish songs and movies. Two from Devdas and Kajra Re. She seldom does item songs but the few she's done have been some of the most popular and iconic. Kajra Re is still played in the metros and stations to this day. Meanwhile PC and Bebo kept whipping out dozens of item songs and all flopped and fizzled out immediately.

Once more, it shows that for global audiences and in the international community at large, Aishwarya is the face of Bollywood and India. She is more than just an actress or superstar. In India, she is a cultural figure and pan-Indian icon not seen since the likes of Sridevi. None of her contemporaries can claim this. When that Pakistani cricket player made a slur, he used Aishwarya's name. Why? Because Aishwarya's name is synonymous with India in all regions of India and on a global scale.

Ya if Ash would have done Chalte Chalte, she would have made it an oscar winning film like she made the films in which she worked :P

Originally posted by: diasingh2

I don't want to waste my time writing another essay, so just copy-pasting from another thread.


GenZ and young Millenials have no idea that Aishwarya was popular and quite successful as a model, even before her debut as an actress. So, she is much more than a "Salman's-ex" or a "Bacchan Bahu".

By late 90s, Aishwarya was already giving competition to all reigning 90s actresses (Madhuri, Kajol, Karisma, Manisha, Urmila etc) and she single-handedly dethroned them with her success post HDDCS and Taal.

Then despite being boycotted for sometime, she still was one one of the biggest stars from 2000-2010 with films like Mohabatein, Josh, Devdas, Khakee, "Kajra Re" song, Dhoom 2, Guru, Sarkar Raj, Jodha Akbar, Raavan, Robot, Guzaarish. This is a feat that no other 90s debutante has.

Imagine where her career would've been if she did films like Veer Zara, Chalte Chalte, Parineeta, Bajirao Mastani (and numerous other where she was first choice) as well.

In addition to this, Aish became THE FIRST actress from Bollywood to establish a name in Hollywood on her own credebility and talent. Please note that she did this before the "diversity and inclusion" wave, that benefited Priyanka. She also worked in South Indian films occasionally.

Sadly today, as an actress, she doesn't have a legacy or much of a career anymore because of her break post pregnancy and failed comebacks.

But as a global/national icon, she has way BIGGER legacy than most PR-made actresses today.

There's a reason that just a mention of her name by a politician can spark a debate, even today.

There are so many contradictions and fallacies within this post, ki samajh nahi aa raha kahan se shuru karein? I mean Aish was good, she had her highs and gave a handful of decent performances. She definitely was one of the first actresses to make a mark overseas - that is her biggest achievement in Bollywood and credit where its due. Everything else in this post is just over-exaggeration of her fame and clout.

1. she was more than bachchan-bahu or Salman's ex. The OP never called her all this. They talked about how she was relevant and gained popularity in Bollywood for being Miss World and for being 'arguably' the most beautiful woman in the world.

2. Dethroned 90s actresses post HDDCS and Taal? Where? Kajol was still numero uno and had way bigger hits in 2000s. If anything she was pushed back and dethroned by the 2000s actresses like Rani, Preity, Kareena who had way bigger Hits, significant roles and critically acclaimed roles than whatever you have mentioned.

3. Mohabatein, Josh, Devdas, Khakee, "Kajra Re" song, Dhoom 2, Guru, Sarkar Raj, Jodha Akbar, Raavan, Robot, Guzaarish - This is a feat that no other 90s debutante has. Kajol has way bigger hits and significant roles than these.

4. Imagine where her career would've been if she did films like ... Classic good for nothing argument. You can say any sort of bs like this. Imagine her career if she did not get endorsements for Loreal ? Makes no sense

5. Agree with the global icon part. Only real thing on this, and that is her only legacy today.

She will be remembered as a global icon for being the "most beautiful woman" in the world and being the first to do a Hollywood crossover (kudos to that).

But she will never feature in the top 5 or even top 10 Bollywood Actresses of all time or even the last 3 decades (which is what the OP was talking about in the first place)

Originally posted by: MrChatVsNorway

She herself said in Anupama C interview that she's not getting offers in Bollywood , yet her fans are living in another dimension claming that she's willingly not working in Bollywood lmao.

No she did not, stop lying.

Anupuma asked Aish why she isn't doing roles like Poonyin like the south not that she isn't getting roles.

. This year, she came to the festival, riding high on the success of the Ponniyin Selvan films, directed by Mani Ratnam, in which she plays the role of Nandini.

Speaking to Anupama Chopra from Film Companion, who asked her why Hindi cinema isn’t offering the actor such roles, Aishwarya replied, “Well, that’s a silent question I think all creative people end up asking.” Acknowledging that there’s a shortage of complex roles for actors, particularly “leading ladies” as Aishwarya put it, she said, “There’s a reason we salute directors like Mani (Ratnam) and others like him.” She further said, "There are directors who create work like this and that’s why it’s such a pleasure for us as artists to work with them and to come away with movies like this, where we are proud of the work we have done. We feel immensely satisfied during the creative process and then of course, with the reaction and the response of the audience. Ponniyin Selvan: II has definitely been immensely satisfying for all of us and we are so grateful and overjoyed with the response. I’m extremely thankful and happy.”

Speaking about her experience of working with the filmmaker Mani Ratnam and how he’s able to tap into

https://news.abplive.com/entertainment/movies/aishwarya-rai-bachchan-cannes-2023-interview-speaks-on-why-she-doesnt-get-roles-with-depth-in-bollywood-1603417#:~:text=Speaking%20to%20Anupama%20Chopra%20from,particularly%20%E2%80%9Cleading%20ladies%E2%80%9D%20as%20Aishwarya

Boney just reveled the other day Aish was the first choice for English Vinglish, she refused Deepika role in Jawaan. Google it.

Mere laaambay laaaaambay essays aaeyngaeyyyyyy

😁😂🤣

https://ibb.co/XbgP002

Originally posted by: StacyStyle

No she did not, stop lying.

Anupuma asked Aish why she isn't doing roles like Poonyin like the south not that she isn't getting roles.

. This year, she came to the festival, riding high on the success of the Ponniyin Selvan films, directed by Mani Ratnam, in which she plays the role of Nandini.

Speaking to Anupama Chopra from Film Companion, who asked her why Hindi cinema isn’t offering the actor such roles, Aishwarya replied, “Well, that’s a silent question I think all creative people end up asking.” Acknowledging that there’s a shortage of complex roles for actors, particularly “leading ladies” as Aishwarya put it, she said, “There’s a reason we salute directors like Mani (Ratnam) and others like him.” She further said, "There are directors who create work like this and that’s why it’s such a pleasure for us as artists to work with them and to come away with movies like this, where we are proud of the work we have done. We feel immensely satisfied during the creative process and then of course, with the reaction and the response of the audience. Ponniyin Selvan: II has definitely been immensely satisfying for all of us and we are so grateful and overjoyed with the response. I’m extremely thankful and happy.”

Speaking about her experience of working with the filmmaker Mani Ratnam and how he’s able to tap into

https://news.abplive.com/entertainment/movies/aishwarya-rai-bachchan-cannes-2023-interview-speaks-on-why-she-doesnt-get-roles-with-depth-in-bollywood-1603417#:~:text=Speaking%20to%20Anupama%20Chopra%20from,particularly%20%E2%80%9Cleading%20ladies%E2%80%9D%20as%20Aishwarya

Boney just reveled the other day Aish was the first choice for English Vinglish, she refused Deepika role in Jawaan. Google it.

we are talking about 2024 and 2012 . JAwaan director himself said Deepika was the only choice in a televised show . Until you show me proof like boney’s video interview , I won’t accept that jAwaan was offered to Ash.

In which way Rani or Ash will make your lives better people that you guys are wasting so much of your emotional energy and so much of time for someone on screen.

🙄🤔😲

Aishwarya Rai won prestigious Dada saheb Palke Best Actress Award for Sarbjit.

This is BEYOND BELIEF if this is true, as she was TRULY BEYOND TERRIBLE in Sarbjit in every department, be it her utter fake over acting, cringy artificial dialogue delivery, over the top unconvincing expressions or even her getup.

This alone shows she got much more than what she actually deserved as an actress, so absolutely no need of those lame lengthy essays crying over her, not been celebrared the way she deserved.

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Mohabatein, Josh, Devdas, Khakee, "Kajra Re" song, Dhoom 2, Guru, Sarkar Raj, Jodha Akbar, Raavan, Robot, Guzaarish -

These Aishu janu fans have the audacity to call the above the best filmography

And you think Rani fan would not atleast laught at it /them

Originally posted by: MrChatVsNorway

Mohabatein, Josh, Devdas, Khakee, "Kajra Re" song, Dhoom 2, Guru, Sarkar Raj, Jodha Akbar, Raavan, Robot, Guzaarish -

These Aishu janu fans have the audacity to call the above the best filmography

And you think Rani fan would not atleast laught at it /them

I also laughed a lot when you called an above average performer like Rani a much better actress than someones like Vidya, Tabu and Sridevi and called those three acting giants as one note, monotone, average and deficient actresses...😂

So hota hai, sub ki baari aati hai.

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Originally posted by: sharaban

I also laughed a lot when you called an above average performer like Rani a much better actress than someones like Vidya, Tabu and Sridevi and called those three acting giants as one note, monotone and deficient actresses...😂

So hota hai, sub ki baari aati hai.

🤣

let’s not get there