How did muslims come to live in israel? - Page 3

You can't confuse blood lineage with religion. There will be more and more modern religions forming and more and more conversions. But blood lineage decides one's ancestry to a native population. In fact, the fastest-growing religion in the world is atheism and deism. As many have seen religion has been used as a force of division in politics.

Of the Abrahamic faiths, Islam is the most modern religion. So if modern-day Palestinians are more likely to be Islamic it should not come as a surprise.

People in Europe were historically pagan like the Romans. They believed in multiple gods and goddesses. Christianity, Islam, and Judaism spread missionaries everywhere around the world to convert people. In Europe obviously, Christianity and Judaism would be more widespread as they have been sending missionaries for a longer. time. In the middle east the situation is the opposite.

But it should not be confused with blood lineage or genetics.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

I go back to 1948 because it is the only time in the history of war and organic empires in the region when a third party inorganically carved out land from one country to another.

According to Britannica, UN Special Committee on Palestine, made up of members from 11 countries, delivered two proposals: that of the majority, which recommended two separate states joined economically, and that of the minority, which supported the formation of a single binational state made up of autonomous Jewish and Palestinian areas. The Jewish community approved of the first of these proposals, while the Arabs opposed them both.

The partition map proposal is available online.

To your point, the third party only proposed. One party accepted and another didn't. More tensions followed then another war. After the war Israel ended up with more than 77% of the territory proposed for Palestine. Inorganic? Perhaps! There wasn't a 3rd option on the table for Palestinians other than a) listening to UN b) winning a war.

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

if chants and tweets can conquer nations, sure!

If that were actually true, I’d have a hearty laugh and have a real estate up for sell in Manhattan. Le sigh.

Here’s the actual low-down. Tweets went a long way in the 2020 George Floyd protests. Wildfire tweets caused Derek Chauvin’s video leak across social media platforms, globally which led to his ultimate arrest. Tweets and retweets for months on end about Floyd’s death also ultimately led to a reform in the Minneapolis police force.

On the dark side, tweets by Trump caused the January 6th insurrection of 2021. They also proved to be powerful enough when Trump’s insidious messaging resulted in him being ultimately blacklisted from social media.

Here are some helpful links for the uninitiated. You know, to get you up to speed with the current times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/opinion/sunday/twitter-protest-politics.html


https://www.npr.org/2022/07/13/1111341161/how-trumps-will-be-wild-tweet-drew-rioters-to-the-capitol-on-jan-6

https://annenberg.usc.edu/communication/digital-social-media-ms/dsm-today/power-twitter

I understand social media is very influential. It can both be used and abused. I also understand the power of peaceful protests as well as the destructive nature of looting and violence in the name of “protests” by the likes of Antifa and BLM.

In the context of the slogan “from the river to the sea Palestine will be free”, it’s been around since mid 1900’s and as of today it hasn’t come true. That makes it merely wishful thinking.

Originally posted by: Funtuss

2 billion muslims all over the world....so when few hundreds of them come to streets in some cities, it is being projcted as the defeat of israel

What’s infuriating is the deafening silence from these same groups on the shocking abuses perpetrated on the Muslim minorities in the Uyghur region by PRC. No chants, no protests and no rallying cries whatsoever. Selective outrage at its best!

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

What’s infuriating is the deafening silence from these same groups on the shocking abuses perpetrated on the Muslim minorities in the Uyghur region by PRC. No chants, no protests and no rallying cries whatsoever. Selective outrage at its best!

They have become Chinese porpogandists. Anything goes for a few breadcrumbs. It’s like an army of brainless minions for Xi Jinping’s Gru..😝😁😁

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

What’s infuriating is the deafening silence from these same groups on the shocking abuses perpetrated on the Muslim minorities in the Uyghur region by PRC. No chants, no protests and no rallying cries whatsoever. Selective outrage at its best!

Right and then they seek validation from us hindu nationalists and question or our lack of support for palestine.

They hate the fact that indians are for israels.

Why shouldnt we? We have conscience, class , ethics and morals...we would suppory an educated and progressive ancient civilization over a terrorist country any day

Originally posted by: Grumpydwarf24

You can't confuse blood lineage with religion. There will be more and more modern religions forming and more and more conversions. But blood lineage decides one's ancestry to a native population. In fact, the fastest-growing religion in the world is atheism and deism. As many have seen religion has been used as a force of division in politics.

Of the Abrahamic faiths, Islam is the most modern religion. So if modern-day Palestinians are more likely to be Islamic it should not come as a surprise.

People in Europe were historically pagan like the Romans. They believed in multiple gods and goddesses. Christianity, Islam, and Judaism spread missionaries everywhere around the world to convert people. In Europe obviously, Christianity and Judaism would be more widespread as they have been sending missionaries for a longer. time. In the middle east the situation is the opposite.

But it should not be confused with blood lineage or genetics.

Basically with the articles you posted and from the times of jesus christ it is established jews were the original inhabitants of israel and they arent illegal occupiers as the narratives were going on.

Muslims came much later to conquer. Now israel is strong enough to take what was rightfully theirs to begin with. Its only fair.

The natives have the first right over the invaders. Simple as that. Palestaninas who ditched their religion, culture n way of life due to the fear of sword, backstabbed their own people and sided with the barberians by adopting their religion shouldn't have a say in the ownership of the nation They had already given up on it and their identity. If its about piece of land, they can find somewhere else. Harsh it may sound but there is nonpther option as they refuse to coexist with other religious groups, even those with whom they share same bloodline.

They are behaving just like Pakistanis who despite stealing so much land from us , kicking out native hindus still keep comimg back for more n more and wishing for out annihilation by constantly threatening us with nukes.

No one can civilize these people. Which is why whether its india or israel, declaration of war is the only solution to tackle centuries of terrorism by jehadis.

Originally posted by: Grumpydwarf24

You can't confuse blood lineage with religion. There will be more and more modern religions forming and more and more conversions. But blood lineage decides one's ancestry to a native population. In fact, the fastest-growing religion in the world is atheism and deism. As many have seen religion has been used as a force of division in politics.

Of the Abrahamic faiths, Islam is the most modern religion. So if modern-day Palestinians are more likely to be Islamic it should not come as a surprise.

People in Europe were historically pagan like the Romans. They believed in multiple gods and goddesses. Christianity, Islam, and Judaism spread missionaries everywhere around the world to convert people. In Europe obviously, Christianity and Judaism would be more widespread as they have been sending missionaries for a longer. time. In the middle east the situation is the opposite.

But it should not be confused with blood lineage or genetics.

Basically with the articles you posted and from the times of jesus christ it is established jews were the original inhabitants of israel and they arent illegal occupiers as the narratives were going on.

Muslims came much later to conquer. Now israel is strong enough to take what was rightfully theirs to begin with. Its only fair.

The natives have the first right over the invaders. Simple as that. Palestaninas who ditched their religion, culture n way of life due to the fear of sword, backstabbed their own people and sided with the barberians by adopting their religion shouldn't have a say in the ownership of the nation They had already given up on it and their identity. If its about piece of land, they can find somewhere else. Harsh it may sound but there is nonpther option as they refuse to coexist with other religious groups, even those with whom they share same bloodline.

They are behaving just like Pakistanis who despite stealing so much land from us , kicking out native hindus still keep comimg back for more n more and wishing for out annihilation by constantly threatening us with nukes.

No one can civilize these people. Which is why whether its india or israel, declaration of war is the only solution to tackle centuries of terrorism by jehadis.

Originally posted by: NotYourType

Even I am not versed in this history so have refrained to make an opinion so far. But If it was Jewish land originally, Israel has full rights to it.

> Says has no expertise on the topic

> Goes on to give "expert" opinion anyway on assumptions

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