Maturity or Stupidity

Akshara is doing same thing with abhir what her family did to her. 

Goenkas

Akshara samajhdar hai samajh jayegi and they supported arohi. 

Akshara 

Abhir samajhdar hai samajh jayega and akshu supports and cares only about Abhinav. 

Goenkas 

Supported akshara when she lied for Arohi's happiness.

Akshara

She is asking abhir to hide truth for arohi's happiness.

Goenkas 

Family is family. Maro kaato reject karo humiliate karo hum saath saath hai. 

Akshara

After leap her major problem is only Abhimanyu, she does not have any problem with goenkas who being a family left her to die. 

Goenkas 

Jo suntha hai woh accha hai.  Aur jo oppose kartha hai woh bura hai. 

Akshara

Abhinav is good as he just nods his head and abhimanyu is bad as he gives her reality checks. 

Goenkas 

Hame patha hai hamare baccho ko kya chahiye.(They hardly knew anything about their kids)

Akshara

Mujhe patha hai abhir ko kya chahiye. ( and assumes that he only wants Abhinav ) 

In the end, akshu considers her son more mature and understanding than her husband who thinks her husband may react during the wedding(which he did) but her son will happily enjoy the wedding without even thinking about his real father. He may not express it verbally as he had learnt a skill from akshara to hide everything from parents but he is very vocal about it with roohi. 

Like how he hid. 

1. His illness. 

2. His desire to not to go to US

3. He hid that he knows the truth. 

Abhir can't even share important information with Navra as he is made to believe they are already stressed and don't give any more stress to them 

Please stick to the topic. Thanks in advance.  

Edited by firewings_diya - 11 months ago

Just few points to disagree with the claims in this post - 

"After leap her major problem is only Abhimanyu, she does not have any problem with goenkas who being a family left her to die." 

From where are you bringing claim that Goenkas left her to die (I dislike Goenkas but my issues come from s2). Manish was in touch with her, they followed up and heck Manish even visited her. How many of these things did Abhimanyu do? All his feelings that he was wrong came in after seeing her (seeming) happily married! Koi logic hai? 

Akshara is tagging Abhimanyu as bura not for whiteday or anything, she became friendly with him during first UD trip! Remember they said Hi in dark and Manju saw? Things could have gone well had she been not insulted all over again during Udaipur visit. And no, her issue isn't even she being insulted but it has been only when Abhinav was targetted. She was very protective about him.  Things could have gone when during her second visit to Udaipur for Abhir, things could have gone well after surgery.. But we all know what happened there, right? 

"She is asking abhir to hide truth for arohi's happiness."

When did this happen.. She told Abhir to not tell anything to Aru? 

Her hiding truth isn't for only Arohi's happiness but for sake of every other rishta when everything was going so well in her life. They were happy, Arohi was happy, for change both families were happy and ideally truth would have destroyed everything like it did... Ab koi jaan buzkar apne pairon par kuladi kyun marega? She wasn't seeking revenge or anything on Abhimanyu, it's just a logical thing to do when you just know kind of family Birlas are and you are already happily married and everything is going well. Plus, judgements about Birlas isn't even based on Shefali ka issue, Akshu doesn't even know I think. 

Originally posted by: shahsb_26

Just few points to disagree with the claims in this post - 

"After leap her major problem is only Abhimanyu, she does not have any problem with goenkas who being a family left her to die." 

From where are you bringing claim that Goenkas left her to die (I dislike Goenkas but my issues come from s2). Manish was in touch with her, they followed up and heck Manish even visited her. How many of these things did Abhimanyu do? All his feelings that he was wrong came in after seeing her (seeming) happily married! Koi logic hai? 

Akshara is tagging Abhimanyu as bura not for whiteday or anything, she became friendly with him during first UD trip! Remember they said Hi in dark and Manju saw? Things could have gone well had she been not insulted all over again during Udaipur visit. And no, her issue isn't even she being insulted but it has been only when Abhinav was targetted. She was very protective about him.  Things could have gone when during her second visit to Udaipur for Abhir, things could have gone well after surgery.. But we all know what happened there, right? 

Goenkas knew where Akshu was and there are scenes where Abhi goes to Goenkas house to ask about Akshu for which Manish sends him back by saying they don't deserve each other. Which parent will leave her kid without money, food, and cloths at a friend's house? Why Akshu has to choose a stranger over her family? 

She had a problem with them toh ab woh problem kaha hai. The entire leap was taken by making it look like everyone whom Akshu knows are evil. and she has to marry a stranger as her family was not supportive. But the only person who is called out now is  Abhi for not picking up for the phone. Whereas she was in touch with BP all this while. She could have informed him that she is pregnant. 

"She is asking abhir to hide truth for arohi's happiness."

When did this happen.. She told Abhir to not tell anything to Aru? 

Her hiding truth isn't for only Arohi's happiness but for sake of every other rishta when everything was going so well in her life. They were happy, Arohi was happy, for change both families were happy and ideally truth would have destroyed everything like it did... Ab koi jaan buzkar apne pairon par kuladi kyun marega? She wasn't seeking revenge or anything on Abhimanyu, it's just a logical thing to do when you just know kind of family Birlas are and you are already happily married and everything is going well. Plus, judgements about Birlas isn't even based on Shefali ka issue, Akshu doesn't even know I think. 

Why to teach a kid to lie? Why akshu is so bothered about every other rishta even after knowing in the future when the entire family gets to know Abhir is Abhimanyu's son, arohi has to adjust? She should have told Arohi if she really loved Arohi if she was so concerned about Arohi's life in order to avoid her getting comfortable post-truth revelation. But what she did in return was to hide so that in the future relation get so complex she can enjoy with the popcorn.  and say Maine toh sabki bhalayi ke liye kiya tha. 

The reason why Abhir is lying and hiding his feelings is because Akshu is teaching him to think about others. 

Edited by firewings_diya - 11 months ago

Okay false equivalencies for the win as well. Goenkas not dealing with the trauma of all three children was a shit move. Akshara isn't more important than Arohi that she should have been prioritised over Arohi or vice versa. All the children should have been treated equally

Abhir and Abhinav are neither siblings. Nor at conflict with each other. Abhinav or Abhir don't  hate each other and are not agajnst each other's happiness. A husband and a son are two different entities with two different code of conducts. They cannot be treated in the same way. More importantly, Abhir is not traumatised.

She lied to Abhinav to protect his feelings which is wrong. But she gave a 6 y/o age-appropriate timeline to deal with information that would disrupt Abhir's life at a very young age. Information, he is mildly curious about. Should she have told Abhinav the truth and should they have dealt with Abhir together as parents? Yes. Was the identity of RWP absolutely necessary for ABHIR's happiness at age 6? No.

Now that truth will be out, the audience will see what great good it does to Abhir to know his RWP.

Originally posted by: shahsb_26

Just few points to disagree with the claims in this post - 

"After leap her major problem is only Abhimanyu, she does not have any problem with goenkas who being a family left her to die." 

From where are you bringing claim that Goenkas left her to die (I dislike Goenkas but my issues come from s2). Manish was in touch with her, they followed up and heck Manish even visited her. How many of these things did Abhimanyu do? All his feelings that he was wrong came in after seeing her (seeming) happily married! Koi logic hai? 

Akshara is tagging Abhimanyu as bura not for whiteday or anything, she became friendly with him during first UD trip! Remember they said Hi in dark and Manju saw? Things could have gone well had she been not insulted all over again during Udaipur visit. And no, her issue isn't even she being insulted but it has been only when Abhinav was targetted. She was very protective about him.  Things could have gone when during her second visit to Udaipur for Abhir, things could have gone well after surgery.. But we all know what happened there, right? 

"She is asking abhir to hide truth for arohi's happiness."

When did this happen.. She told Abhir to not tell anything to Aru? 

Her hiding truth isn't for only Arohi's happiness but for sake of every other rishta when everything was going so well in her life. They were happy, Arohi was happy, for change both families were happy and ideally truth would have destroyed everything like it did... Ab koi jaan buzkar apne pairon par kuladi kyun marega? She wasn't seeking revenge or anything on Abhimanyu, it's just a logical thing to do when you just know kind of family Birlas are and you are already happily married and everything is going well. Plus, judgements about Birlas isn't even based on Shefali ka issue, Akshu doesn't even know I think. 

@red Wasn't that the premise of this leap , she couldn't even go back to her family , she has sort of kept aside her differences with AbhiM too now but since the start she seems to have no issues with Goenks nd even Aarohi nd Manjari...there's a little inconsistency

@blue I think the reference is to the scene where Aarohi says ruhi will feel bad if u r close to her poppy nd when Ak comes to know her reaction is don't tell Manjari. Abhir was a little uncomfortable with ruhi unhappiness yet Aaru ko problem na ho was on her mind. Wasn't she who taught abhir to fight for himself, it's quite contrary for her to constantly tell him to hide nd lie stuff

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

Akshara is doing same thing with abhir what her family did to her. 

Goenkas

Akshara samajhdar hai samajh jayegi and they supported arohi. 

Akshara 

Abhir samajhdar hai samajh jayega and akshu supports and cares only about Abhinav. 

Goenkas 

Supported akshara when she lied for Arohi's happiness.

Akshara

She is asking abhir to hide truth for arohi's happiness.

Goenkas 

Family is family. Maro kaato reject karo humiliate karo hum saath saath hai. 

Akshara

After leap her major problem is only Abhimanyu, she does not have any problem with goenkas who being a family left her to die. 

Goenkas 

Jo suntha hai woh accha hai.  Aur jo oppose kartha hai woh bura hai. 

Akshara

Abhinav is good as he just nods his head and abhimanyu is bad as he gives her reality checks. 

Goenkas 

Hame patha hai hamare baccho ko kya chahiye.(They hardly knew anything about their kids)

Akshara

Mujhe patha hai abhir ko kya chahiye. ( and assumes that he only wants Abhinav ) 

In the end, akshu considers her son more mature and understanding than her husband who thinks her husband may react during the wedding(which he did) but her son will happily enjoy the wedding without even thinking about his real father. He may not express it verbally as he had learnt a skill from akshara to hide everything from parents but he is very vocal about it with roohi. 

Like how he hid. 

1. His illness. 

2. His desire to not to go to US

3. He hid that he knows the truth. 

Abhir can't even share important information with Navra as he is made to believe they are already stressed and don't give any more stress to them 

Please stick to the topic. Thanks in advance.  

Abhir inherited these traits from his mother

It shows how every time Abhir says Mummy papa ko stress hoga he was even worried about his medical bills

Nd how Ak is always Nav ko bahut bura lgega woh tut jaayenge...aaru pe kya asar pdega nd both hide nd lie

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Okay false equivalencies for the win as well. Goenkas not dealing with the trauma of all three children was a shit move. Akshara isn't more important than Arohi that she should have been prioritised over Arohi or vice versa. All the children should have been treated equally

Abhir and Abhinav are neither siblings. Nor at conflict with each other. Abhinav or Abhir don't  hate each other and are not agajnst each other's happiness. A husband and a son are two different entities with two different code of conducts. They cannot be treated in the same way. More importantly, Abhir is not traumatised.

She lied to Abhinav to protect his feelings which is wrong. But she gave a 6 y/o age-appropriate timeline to deal with information that would disrupt Abhir's life at a very young age. Information, he is mildly curious about. Should she have told Abhinav the truth and should they have dealt with Abhir together as parents? Yes. Was the identity of RWP absolutely necessary for ABHIR's happiness at age 6? No.

Now that truth will be out, the audience will see what great good it does to Abhir to know his RWP.

You know the actual problem right? It was assumed akshu was living in a bubble , but she isn't. That akshu doesn't love abhin , it's only gratitude but she made it clear she loves abhin not only in words but with her actions..now akshu is a bad bad woman who didn't take help from her family bec it ended the possibility of her ex tormenting her day and night to unite for their soul love and abhir..whatever excuse he could come up with. 

Again the false narrative of abhir being lied to and tormented bec he doesn't know the truth . When the child showed abs no signs of distress on learning the truth about abhin , nor some earth shattering bharat Milap will happen if he knows abt his rwp bec abhir has already said he doesn't care he's just curious,  when abhir and his mother had a clear chat about it  , why will she bring it up again and again to make sure abhir isnt sad ? 

So basically akshu doesn't know anything about her feelings, abhir doesn't know his , the writer doesn't know he feelings of chars he's writing  but their fans know all of their feelings 😆what a judgement !

Originally posted by: shahsb_26

Just few points to disagree with the claims in this post - 

"After leap her major problem is only Abhimanyu, she does not have any problem with goenkas who being a family left her to die." 

From where are you bringing claim that Goenkas left her to die (I dislike Goenkas but my issues come from s2). Manish was in touch with her, they followed up and heck Manish even visited her. How many of these things did Abhimanyu do? All his feelings that he was wrong came in after seeing her (seeming) happily married! Koi logic hai? 

Akshara is tagging Abhimanyu as bura not for whiteday or anything, she became friendly with him during first UD trip! Remember they said Hi in dark and Manju saw? Things could have gone well had she been not insulted all over again during Udaipur visit. And no, her issue isn't even she being insulted but it has been only when Abhinav was targetted. She was very protective about him.  Things could have gone when during her second visit to Udaipur for Abhir, things could have gone well after surgery.. But we all know what happened there, right? 

"She is asking abhir to hide truth for arohi's happiness."

When did this happen.. She told Abhir to not tell anything to Aru? 

Her hiding truth isn't for only Arohi's happiness but for sake of every other rishta when everything was going so well in her life. They were happy, Arohi was happy, for change both families were happy and ideally truth would have destroyed everything like it did... Ab koi jaan buzkar apne pairon par kuladi kyun marega? She wasn't seeking revenge or anything on Abhimanyu, it's just a logical thing to do when you just know kind of family Birlas are and you are already happily married and everything is going well. Plus, judgements about Birlas isn't even based on Shefali ka issue, Akshu doesn't even know I think. 

 

Hey so @bold when Aarohi told Abhir that Ruhi doesn't like him spending time with her poppy.

About your point Goenka's so a few days ago this is what i said Abhimanyu is definitely wrong here but if Goenkas were in touch and didn't left her to die why the struggle to deliver the baby. That niw nullifies her struggles atleast for me coz she willingly cholse to stay their and no she wasn't in love with Abhinav or comfort. 

Now back to what happened at whote day nothing can justify Abhimanyu's behaviour - agreed. Manju mata was wrong to blame Akshara for Abhimanyu accident recently - agreed 

The way Abhi initially reacted when he got to know about Abhir was stupidity - Agreed. 

But did he realised his mistakes and tried to calm down afterwards - Yes. (Always remember ITV standards) 

Now Akshara-

Was saving the girls the right thing to do - Yes

But did Neil die - Yes

Abhimanyu lost a brother he loved, a mother lost her son, Aarohi lost her husband and Ruhi a father she never got to know. 

She never once apologized. And now her behaviour as if sirf uske saath galat hua hai this attitude is what weird. 

I agree it was an accident. She didn't wanted Neil to die but he did. 

Even that day the first thing she should have said to Abhi was I am sorry this not we wanted but hogya. 

About hiding truth okay she hid it for a long so continues that makes sense. But at the moment things have changed even Abhir knows half the truth and noe she seems to procrastinate telling Abhir the truth. 

Also, of Abhimanyu is so bad of a person and everything that has been going on. Somewhere in a way Akshara and Aarohi because of their issues destroyed whatever peace Birla house had. And look them now playing besties. 

 

Originally posted by: DevilHere

Abhir inherited these traits from his mother

It shows how every time Abhir says Mummy papa ko stress hoga he was even worried about his medical bills

Nd how Ak is always Nav ko bahut bura lgega woh tut jaayenge...aaru pe kya asar pdega nd both hide nd lie

because akshu always said papa ne ye kiya woh kiya toh he feels indebted too.

Arohi was the first one to blame akshu.but now she behaves like a bestie.