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Posted: 1 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: PangaNaLe

Then criticize that verse which is telling Muslims to kill innocent people to reach heaven. If there is any.


its conjoint reading of many verses. fight for allah and his prophet, kill infidels, you will be rewarded houris in heaven. they are different verses but they are from the same book.

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Posted: 1 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: snatch


According to Quran, men will be rewarded with Houris. Verses about Houris :

-Quran 52:20 : “Reclining on ranged couches. And we wed them unto fair ones [houri] with wide, lovely eyes”

-Quran 55:70–72 : “In them are good and beautiful women - So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny? -Fair ones reserved in pavilions.”

-Quran 56:22 : “And (there are) fair ones [hourun] with wide, lovely eyes”

-Quran 56:35–35 : “Lo! We have created them a creation (houri), And made them virgins.”

-Quran 78: 31–33 : Indeed, for the righteous is attainment -Gardens and grapevines and full-breasted [companions] of equal age.”

So it is clear that the Quran mentions the Houris as fair-skinned, wide-eyed, beautiful, full-breasted, and virgins.

the above certainly not about wives.

it could have plainly written husband and wife/wives will live happily in heaven. no complications. but there lies a problem, meeting your wife again at heaven is not going to be a good offer to make.


Didn't anyone teach you how to quote full sentence?


Quran 52:20 The righteous shall be in Gardens and Bliss, rejoicing in what their Lord shall give them; and their Lord shall save them from the torment of Hell. (It will be said to them:) "Eat and drink with relish as a reward for what you have been doing." They will be reclining on couches, .facing each other, and We shall wed them to houris with beautiful eyes.


Martyr will be rewarded with houris, where? Where is the word martyr? The righteous will get "married" for whatever reason the didn't marry here.. or wasn't blessed with a righteous wife..


Quran 55:70 In those two Heavens there are also (friends) who are good-natured and beautiful in appearance;

Quran 55:72 ˹They will be˺ maidens with gorgeous eyes, reserved in pavilions.

Houris as friends.. given to martyr where written?


Quran 56:22 let's start from 56:17 Eternal youths shall go round them briskly with brimful goblets and beakers and cups of wine from a flowing spring, which will neither cause them giddiness nor affect their sense. And they shall present before them every kind of tasty fruit, whichever they may choose; and the flesh of fowls, whichever they may desire. And for them there shall be beautiful-eyed houris, as lovely as well-guarded pearls.


Where written martyr will get them? Even marry the male ones .. eternal youth, male version of your hoors... who died young.. they will be given to the righteous too besides houris.. they would be like children's..


Quran 56:35 look at what you quote.. up there 56:22 is hoors then at 56:35 is about wife

And the people of the right hand. Oh, how fortunate will be the people of the right hand! They shall be among thornless lote-trees, and piled up bananas, one upon the other, and outspread shade and ever flowing waters and abundant fruits neither failing in supply nor forbidden, and in upraised couches. We shall create their wives anew and make them virgins, lovers of their husbands and of equal age. All this is for the people of the right hand. A good number of them will be from among the former people and a good number also from among those of latter day.


Quran 78:31 again repeated verses.. Surely for the righteous there is an abode of success. Gardens and vineyards and maidens of equal age and brimful cups.


Where written martyr? You don't have to be a martyr to get hoors or pleasure of Paradise.. you can just be righteous, someone who received their deeds on the right hand .. right hand means that your good deed are more than your bad deeds, nothing to do with female righteous or male righteous... Of course if died unmarried then you will be married to one ..

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Posted: 1 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: snatch


its conjoint reading of many verses. fight for allah and his prophet, kill infidels, you will be rewarded houris in heaven. they are different verses but they are from the same book.


There is no such thing, unless of course again you want to quote half way because quoting full thing means your lies would be expose... If only you people actually attend school and learn how to read properly and quote properly...

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Posted: 1 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: snatch


you have a fixation for your religion. you will find meaning in anything or everything. first u said u dont believe in hadiths. now u have come up with this.

for your information the number is not just 72 if you kill infidels it is 1000.


Huh 1000? Please quote your source? If you are truthful and not a liar

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Posted: 1 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: YourCat


Huh 1000? Please quote your source? If you are truthful and not a liar


i saw a video. he is an ex muslim named ahmed. i saw the video. he also quoted the verses. its an ex muslim source so i said that. its certainly in youtube.

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Posted: 1 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: YourCat


Didn't anyone teach you how to quote full sentence?


Quran 52:20 The righteous shall be in Gardens and Bliss, rejoicing in what their Lord shall give them; and their Lord shall save them from the torment of Hell. (It will be said to them:) "Eat and drink with relish as a reward for what you have been doing." They will be reclining on couches, .facing each other, and We shall wed them to houris with beautiful eyes.


Martyr will be rewarded with houris, where? Where is the word martyr? The righteous will get "married" for whatever reason the didn't marry here.. or wasn't blessed with a righteous wife..


Quran 55:70 In those two Heavens there are also (friends) who are good-natured and beautiful in appearance;

Quran 55:72 ˹They will be˺ maidens with gorgeous eyes, reserved in pavilions.

Houris as friends.. given to martyr where written?


Quran 56:22 let's start from 56:17 Eternal youths shall go round them briskly with brimful goblets and beakers and cups of wine from a flowing spring, which will neither cause them giddiness nor affect their sense. And they shall present before them every kind of tasty fruit, whichever they may choose; and the flesh of fowls, whichever they may desire. And for them there shall be beautiful-eyed houris, as lovely as well-guarded pearls.


Where written martyr will get them? Even marry the male ones .. eternal youth, male version of your hoors... who died young.. they will be given to the righteous too besides houris.. they would be like children's..


Quran 56:35 look at what you quote.. up there 56:22 is hoors then at 56:35 is about wife

And the people of the right hand. Oh, how fortunate will be the people of the right hand! They shall be among thornless lote-trees, and piled up bananas, one upon the other, and outspread shade and ever flowing waters and abundant fruits neither failing in supply nor forbidden, and in upraised couches. We shall create their wives anew and make them virgins, lovers of their husbands and of equal age. All this is for the people of the right hand. A good number of them will be from among the former people and a good number also from among those of latter day.


Quran 78:31 again repeated verses.. Surely for the righteous there is an abode of success. Gardens and vineyards and maidens of equal age and brimful cups.


Where written martyr? You don't have to be a martyr to get hoors or pleasure of Paradise.. you can just be righteous, someone who received their deeds on the right hand .. right hand means that your good deed are more than your bad deeds, nothing to do with female righteous or male righteous... Of course if died unmarried then you will be married to one ..


this is your own source. https://quran.com/en/an-naba/31-36


full bosoms maiden of equal age. what else is that ?? full bosomed friend / wife ? come on...

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Posted: 1 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: YourCat


There is no such thing, unless of course again you want to quote half way because quoting full thing means your lies would be expose... If only you people actually attend school and learn how to read properly and quote properly...


come on..there are thousands of ex muslims in youtube. all it takes is some patience to listen to them. they are regular on television debates in India. not only islam there are ex hindu ex christian ex all religions. they make precise debates with proper sources.

we dont note them in books but is there.

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Posted: 1 years ago
#88

https://recitequran.com/en/tafsir/en.ibn-kathir/78:33


(Kawa`ib) "This means round breasts. They meant by this that the breasts of these girls will be fully rounded and not sagging, because they will be virgins, equal in age. This means that they will only have one age.'' The explanation of this has already been mentioned in Surat Al-Waqi`ah. Concerning Allah's statement,


read this .. this is your own source. are u saying this is not credible source ? we are only copy pasting.. not even interpreting..simply copy pasting..

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Posted: 1 years ago
#89

Sunan Ibn Majah Volume 5, Book 37, Hadith 4337—“Abu Umama narrated: "The Messenger of God said, 'Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the female dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.”


what is this. this is no interpretation. this is what they are making this movie..

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Posted: 1 years ago
#90

Originally posted by: snatch


this is your own source. https://quran.com/en/an-naba/31-36


full bosoms maiden of equal age. what else is that ?? full bosomed friend / wife ? come on...


The woman is a tiflah (little girl) when she is small, waleedah when she begins to walk, then a kaa‘ib when her breasts begin to appear, then a naahid when they increase in size, then ma‘sar when she reaches the age of puberty, then khawd when she reaches the age of a young woman.


At which stage do you think from the Arabic word this is? وَكَوَاعِبَ kaa'ib ?


This kind of verse is for you people who thinks she is a hoor with young woman for sex...


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