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Posted: 2 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: deeps07

I dnt think ravi feels real..how can a woman just accept nonsense without even feeling she is being wronged..she is too good and too accepting to be real ..it would have been real if it was ravi who told shiva that she would never forget the insult she gave him even after he extended his hands to rishitha after being called gawar and jahil..and it should have been ravi leaving the venue first along with shiva...shiva could have told ravi not to hold grudges against rishitha for him..rishitha is family and he understands her impulsiveness ...and it doesn't hurt him as long as ravi is there for him...while dhara can do all the understanding of rishithas bakwaas but also respect ravis hurt, thus leaving rishitha alone to deal with her guilt..rishitha should have been ashamed and left alone in the angan instead of dhara and gombi saying his usual 'sab theek ho jayega'...she can later fight with motiben..but her pride doesn't let her go back..then it would have been relatable..somehow they should have shown rishithas guilt as her redemption..but they will show rishimendra..

Here ravi already believes she made a mistake by calling out rishithas behaviour..ok..maybe it's the fact that ravi pointed out that rishitha failed while shiva won the competition.. when shiva was very particular abt rishitha being a part of his win..but that doesn't make whatbshe said totally wrong..she called her out for her toxicity towards Shiva.. it should have been infact dhara and goutham to call dev and ask him to take this loud mouth away..but they really dnt care abt anyone except devta and their ideology regarding happy family..

I know deeps that it's difficult for the women of today including me to relate with raavi. Why does she love shiva so much? Why does she care so much for the family whose every member has wronged her at some point of time. But i have seen women like her around me. Who work selflessly for their family without getting due credit, whose opinions are not valued as much as the other men or the parental figures. Who are always compared with another mother figure of the house. She can never cook as good as her, she can never instill the same values like her in the children. Infact I have even seen that they don't even have a say on the matter of their children's education.

Imagine shivi have kids, dhara wants to get them admitted in a certain school. Raavi wants another school. Whose decision do you think will shiva uphold? The dobi average student or the all perfect know it all dhara.

I have seen a situation closely where the mother was told to shut up rudely as she was not that much educated.what do you know about English medium schools? But the sister in laws opinion was taken into consideration.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#72

This show just proves to be a disappointment in all ways possible, time and time again

While shivi did have a good backstory to build a beautiful love story on, i think the makers have made it plenty clear by now they have no interest in that

This is the pattern they plan to follow until the show eventually shuts down in a few months

Its better to detach now than later

I just watch ig clips now, even the shivi scenes arent as impactful, that OG spark is long lost. Its the same old rinse repeat scenes over and over again

Its useless to even rant, cuz this show isnt worth it

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Posted: 2 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: deeps07

I dnt think ravi feels real..how can a woman just accept nonsense without even feeling she is being wronged..she is too good and too accepting to be real ..it would have been real if it was ravi who told shiva that she would never forget the insult she gave him even after he extended his hands to rishitha after being called gawar and jahil..and it should have been ravi leaving the venue first along with shiva...shiva could have told ravi not to hold grudges against rishitha for him..rishitha is family and he understands her impulsiveness ...and it doesn't hurt him as long as ravi is there for him...while dhara can do all the understanding of rishithas bakwaas but also respect ravis hurt, thus leaving rishitha alone to deal with her guilt..rishitha should have been ashamed and left alone in the angan instead of dhara and gombi saying his usual 'sab theek ho jayega'...she can later fight with motiben..but her pride doesn't let her go back..then it would have been relatable..somehow they should have shown rishithas guilt as her redemption..but they will show rishimendra..

Here ravi already believes she made a mistake by calling out rishithas behaviour..ok..maybe it's the fact that ravi pointed out that rishitha failed while shiva won the competition.. when shiva was very particular abt rishitha being a part of his win..but that doesn't make whatbshe said totally wrong..she called her out for her toxicity towards Shiva.. it should have been infact dhara and goutham to call dev and ask him to take this loud mouth away..but they really dnt care abt anyone except devta and their ideology regarding happy family..

Deeps, these unreal circumstances exist. unfortunately.

I was in this kind of mess in early years of my marriage, took it all to keep sanity & for my relationship. my husband wasn’t as useless as shiva nor was I as accommodating or selfless as Raavi. I had my soft boundaries soon as I realized over interference of SIL & partiality of my in-laws.

My husband being youngest didn’t help much either.

Though- the Soft boundary became hardcore ‘better not mess with me’ and giving back as good as I got the 2nd day of my coming home with first born!
I was just not going to brush aside/ tolerate BS they threw at me!
had I gone soft that time- my kids would have always been treated as secondary/ followers of the elder one’s kids.

Unfortunately, I have seen in husband’s cousins families these hierarchal chaos, is way too unhealthily common.
older brother is everything. His kids are everything. Younger ones , their spouses & children are supposed to follow everything of older one. Though once kids start growing up , cracks start emerging - but parents & older siblings try to control as much as they can.

It was a shock & pain for me when came face to face with this kind of reality! And standing up to crowd of well ‘trained’ system was tough enough … especially when others who were in similar position as me didn’t mind it on the name of ‘badey, riti-rivaaj, traditional rules’ etc! Anything you counter will ultimately blamed on being from different background- which is wrong enough for them!

Well! Be the bad one if one May, but live your life! That’s what I did.

Many women in joint hierarchical family structures might have experienced this on varying proportions- and that is one of the Many reasons, why can relate to Raavi more than any other characters in this show.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: Shooting-Star

Gosh I was soo mad watching today's episode. Didn't even like ShiVi terrace scene.


Mw too. I was so upset I shut it off immediately

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Posted: 2 years ago
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it is a wrap guys, atleast for me. GGs, this show ruined everything, all the nice relations, the family bonds, the beautiful underrated family moments everything. Neither is Raavi going to get importance, nor is Shivi, this show is gone downhill long back.

Anyway, wish best to both Alice and KD, these two deserve the best and a back massage since they have been carrying the show since so long.

Will keep lurking here and there, but no more PS nonsense.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#76

So Raavi has been made to feel guilty and asked to apologize not to just Rishita but 3 other people😕


Shiva-Raavi conversation - 1st apology

Shiva says, "kyun meri garam bhajiya, galat time pe ulti kopdi daud te hai teri, kaise kar leti hai tu"

Raavi says, 'mein jaanti hoon mujhse galti hogayi hai Shiva, I am sorry"


Raavi talks to Gautam before she addresses Dhara directly - 2nd apology

"Gombi, mein jaanti hoon, mujhe Rishita se maafi maang leni chahiye thi, aur mein maangne bhi waale thi, aur phir Shiva ke beizzati ka flashes jaane lag gaya, par mere muh se kuch nahi nikla, sorry muhe se nikla toh better hota, sorry"


Dhara-Raavi conversation - 3rd and 4th apology- apologized to Dhara by crying and saying she hurt Dhara and sends an apology to Rishita via text.

Dhara says, "woh ghar chodkar chali gayi hum gussa kar le, nahi Raavi, ye gussa karna chodna hoga, aaj toh mein hoon, kal khudanaa khaasta mein nahi rahoon aise lad jhagadkar parivar ko"

Raavi hugs her and says, all the while crying, "nahi Dhara di, meri umar aapko lag jaaye, hurt kiya na meine aapko, mein Rishita se maafi maang loongi, abhi message karti hoon"



My question is why did Raavi stop with these 4 people, shouldn't be apologizing to Dev, Krish, Kirti, Janu, Motiben, Kalyani, Kanta Kaki, her bahu and the entire Somnath waasis who attended the party. They might as well stick I am a dobi on her forehead and hang a I am sorry board on her neck.

If this is how Shiva is going to support every time, Raavi's life is going to be hell for sure. She will be apologizing for all the things that she has not even done and won't be consulted in the decisions that concern her as others will decide for her- Starting with Shiva, Dhara, Rishita, Gautam, Dev, Suman, even Krish and Kirti will be consulted but Raavi's input will never be taken into consideration.

I am just sick and tired of it, not even worth all this typing😕

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Posted: 2 years ago
#77

In a desperate measure to project Dhara and Rishita as positive characters, they are playing again with Raavi's character and demeaning her😔

So did Rishita apologize to Shiva, wholheartedly after calling him beimman? Did she apologize for calling him anpadh, gawar, jaahi?

Didn't she say in her monologue that how could she lose to anpadh, gawar, jaahil? How is this indicative of her still looking out for Pandya parivar members and still considers them as part of her's and Dev's world"?

Was she not showing resentment and despise?
Why is the actor justifying all her actions and is screaming that she is a positive character?😕

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: mpks1

So Raavi has been made to feel guilty and asked to apologize not to just Rishita but 3 other people😕


Shiva-Raavi conversation - 1st apology

Shiva says, "kyun meri garam bhajiya, galat time pe ulti kopdi daud te hai teri, kaise kar leti hai tu"

Raavi says, 'mein jaanti hoon mujhse galti hogayi hai Shiva, I am sorry"


Raavi talks to Gautam before she addresses Dhara directly - 2nd apology

"Gombi, mein jaanti hoon, mujhe Rishita se maafi maang leni chahiye thi, aur mein maangne bhi waale thi, aur phir Shiva ke beizzati ka flashes jaane lag gaya, par mere muh se kuch nahi nikla, sorry muhe se nikla toh better hota, sorry"


Dhara-Raavi conversation - 3rd and 4th apology- apologized to Dhara by crying and saying she hurt Dhara and sends an apology to Rishita via text.

Dhara says, "woh ghar chodkar chali gayi hum gussa kar le, nahi Raavi, ye gussa karna chodna hoga, aaj toh mein hoon, kal khudanaa khaasta mein nahi rahoon aise lad jhagadkar parivar ko"

Raavi hugs her and says, all the while crying, "nahi Dhara di, meri umar aapko lag jaaye, hurt kiya na meine aapko, mein Rishita se maafi maang loongi, abhi message karti hoon"



My question is why did Raavi stop with these 4 people, shouldn't be apologizing to Dev, Krish, Kirti, Janu, Motiben, Kalyani, Kanta Kaki, her bahu and the entire Somnath waasis who attended the party. They might as well stick I am a dobi on her forehead and hang a I am sorry board on her neck.

If this is how Shiva is going to support every time, Raavi's life is going to be hell for sure. She will be apologizing for all the things that she has not even done and won't be consulted in the decisions that concern her as others will decide for her- Starting with Shiva, Dhara, Rishita, Gautam, Dev, Suman, even Krish and Kirti will be consulted but Raavi's input will never be taken into consideration.

I am just sick and tired of it, not even worth all this typing😕

Just reading this makes me feel so sad.The way pure hearted and innocent people are taken advantage of 🥺

The way things are without her even doing something wrong. if she actually does a mistake, she will be dragged and thrown out of the house.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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I think it is good that I have started getting detached from this show because I am prepared to not get my heartbroken when the show goes off air. The show going off air soon is now inevitable because the TRP for almost every SP show has risen even during IPL but PS has continued to drop. But I have made peace with it, the makers do not want to change anything because they also want the show to end. Fans can and have been wrong many times in the past but they are not wrong in this instance but the makers refuse to listen and it is only so much the audience can take. I think the audience is also tired of giving feedback when nothing is being done to take that feedback positively. I am only watching for Alice/Raavi and that is it. Every other actor and character has lost my interest.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: spdp

Deeps, these unreal circumstances exist. unfortunately.

I was in this kind of mess in early years of my marriage, took it all to keep sanity & for my relationship. my husband wasn’t as useless as shiva nor was I as accommodating or selfless as Raavi. I had my soft boundaries soon as I realized over interference of SIL & partiality of my in-laws.

My husband being youngest didn’t help much either.

Though- the Soft boundary became hardcore ‘better not mess with me’ and giving back as good as I got the 2nd day of my coming home with first born!
I was just not going to brush aside/ tolerate BS they threw at me!
had I gone soft that time- my kids would have always been treated as secondary/ followers of the elder one’s kids.

Unfortunately, I have seen in husband’s cousins families these hierarchal chaos, is way too unhealthily common.
older brother is everything. His kids are everything. Younger ones , their spouses & children are supposed to follow everything of older one. Though once kids start growing up , cracks start emerging - but parents & older siblings try to control as much as they can.

It was a shock & pain for me when came face to face with this kind of reality! And standing up to crowd of well ‘trained’ system was tough enough … especially when others who were in similar position as me didn’t mind it on the name of ‘badey, riti-rivaaj, traditional rules’ etc! Anything you counter will ultimately blamed on being from different background- which is wrong enough for them!

Well! Be the bad one if one May, but live your life! That’s what I did.

Many women in joint hierarchical family structures might have experienced this on varying proportions- and that is one of the Many reasons, why can relate to Raavi more than any other characters in this show.

True dear..I totally get this..infact the kind of issues u wrote about ur own experience, I myself can relate with in some cases..

But what I see myself different from ravi is..I dnt think this family is perfect. I realise there is partiality.. I feel the injustice done on me..ravi doesn't feel this..that makes her unreal for me..her pain is real..and very relatable..but the writers are making her apologise and that too she is shown feeling guilty for voicing out..she is very happy for this family..that is not relatable to me..I only feel for her because the abuses are realistic ..and it hurts badly to live with such a family who will never consider us with respect and care..

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