Barrister Babu/ DT Note pg 5. - Page 4

Originally posted by: Anjalika01

I've seen bits and pieces of that show and it's not just wrong/creepy but historically speaking super inaccurate too...

Idk about other cultures but in India as far as I know such wide age gaps (twenty-two and TEN) were never normal/common...

And although child-marriage was definitely a thing, children were mostly married off to other children, not adults in their 20s or older 🤢 (not that that makes it right btw)...

And a girl of Bandita's age would never be sent to live at her sasural! What housework, cooking, etc. could such a small child do in those days (when all of it was 10 times harder)? How could she have children when she's a child herself??

That's why after child marriage everyone would wait till the "bride" and "groom" mature a bit, and then perform a ceremony known as gaunah, after which the couple would actually begin living together as husband and wife.

And it's not just this show that peddled this false idea of primary school aged girls going to stay in sasural... Balika Vadhu, and otherwise excellent film Bulbul are equally guilty!

P.S No offence😳

Originally posted by: Anjalika01

I've seen bits and pieces of that show and it's not just wrong/creepy but historically speaking super inaccurate too...

Idk about other cultures but in India as far as I know such wide age gaps (twenty-two and TEN) were never normal/common...

And although child-marriage was definitely a thing, children were mostly married off to other children, not adults in their 20s or older 🤢 (not that that makes it right btw)...

And a girl of Bandita's age would never be sent to live at her sasural! What housework, cooking, etc. could such a small child do in those days (when all of it was 10 times harder)? How could she have children when she's a child herself??

That's why after child marriage everyone would wait till the "bride" and "groom" mature a bit, and then perform a ceremony known as gaunah, after which the couple would actually begin living together as husband and wife.

And it's not just this show that peddled this false idea of primary school aged girls going to stay in sasural... Balika Vadhu, and otherwise excellent film Bulbul are equally guilty!

@Bold - that is incorrect.

@UL - So you think Bondita was sent to her sasural just to have children? Does any girl ever go to sasural just to bear children? 😆 As much as you know about the fact that the girl Bondita is a kid, her Sasural and Husband know that as well 👍🏼

my great grand mother was 11 when she was married to my great grandfather who was 21 😊 she was sent to sasural right after marriage and she had children only when she was 19 😊 my great grand father taught her while she was young and she was very well educated. I am not supporting child marriage here (because age gaps should never be an issue in marriages so i am only bothered about the child marriage bit) . I am just explaining that what they are showing in the show is NOT inaccurate and it is not wrong.

Now whether it is creepy or not is a matter of personal opinion, mine won't change yours and yours won't change mine! 👍🏼

Originally posted by: ..RiMi..

@Bold - What makes you say that and in what way are they promoting child marriage? Just by the promos you cannot tell what they are showing in the show right? 😊

I have no idea about PPK because I never watched it. I am here just to comment on Barrister Babu. I don't think it even makes sense to compare these two shows.

So, when we watch a mythological drama, or a historical show, we see many traits of the Indian society which were wrong that time... do we question such shows then? 😆Absolutely not! Why are people making numerous remakes of historical events which not only depicts child marriage, but also brutality with women, violence, cruelty and what not?

You will find numerous series and films based on World War 1 & 2 where you will find stories that would wrench you heart. Why are they still making these shows/films when we know those things were wrong and now we do not want to follow that ? are they doing it to promote negativity and all those things that happened in the past? No!

That's because if a show is depicting events which took place in past does not mean they are trying to promote it.

Promoting something mean glorifying the same thing on television and showing the viewers that this thing is right.

But what did the show Basrrister Babu do?

• They showed that an 8 year old girl was being tricked into marrying a 90 year old man. Does this mean glorifying child marriage?
• They showed that when the 90 year old man died even before completing the rituals, that little 8 year old girl was forced to perform Sati. Is that glorifying Sati pratha?
• After being married to the lead at such a tender age, she had to face wrath of the family due to her bed wetting problem. Does that "glorify" child marriage? Does that in any way show child marriages are good? Doesn't it actually depict how wrong it was?
• There was a track where the lead out rightly rejected attending a child marriage which was taking place. He clearly mentioned that it is wrong and he himself had to do marry Bondita only to stop a bigger mishap. Is this glorifying child marriage?
• Was it okay if the lead had not stopped Sati pratha and let that kid die? He married her to save her life, does this mean child marriage is being glorified?

The lead of the show tried to STOP not just the child marriage but also the Sati Pratha. When no one was ready to take the girl's responsibility, then the Lead had to marry her just to give her a place in the society as he promised to give her a life which she deserved.Is this glorifying child marriage? Was it okay if he had just taken her home with himself without marrying her? What ugly names would people have given in that case ? Even in 2021 it is a big deal, let alone 1920.

The Lead of the show himself is young and he strongly despises injustice with women. Since day 1 he is only shown fighting for Women rights. He is a man who is going against the society to not only educate that girl but also make her self sufficient and an independent woman. (Not just Bondita, he has done so much for other girls as well and even untouchables, which proves he is not only fighting for Women right but for Human rights on the whole)

Why are we not pointing out to such amazing things which this show is depicting? That guy left western culture to come back to his country and bring a change in society. Why are we not appreciating that?

You have never seen the show then Please listen to some of Anirudh's monologues on women, and then tell me what you feel they are glorifying ? I have personally never seen any ML say such apt and supportive things for women rights, and Anirudh not just says these things, he follows it as well.

So Bondita being married to Anirudh is just a way of telling the story and it is just a part of the show. The show is not about Anirudh and Bondita's "Love" story in any way and you will understand that very well if you watch the show. The Indian audience are sensible enough to understand that the events are taking place in the past.

Also, about promoting things, what about the reality/fictional TV shows that are showing violence, abuse, ladai jhhagda, planning and plotting all day? Is that not called promoting wrong things ?

I think it is high time we should support such bold ITV shows like Barrister Babu which are trying to do something different at least 👍🏼

Wonderfully said 👍👏

Originally posted by: ..RiMi..

@Bold - What makes you say that and in what way are they promoting child marriage? Just by the promos you cannot tell what they are showing in the show right? 😊

I have no idea about PPK because I never watched it. I am here just to comment on Barrister Babu. I don't think it even makes sense to compare these two shows.

So, when we watch a mythological drama, or a historical show, we see many traits of the Indian society which were wrong that time... do we question such shows then? 😆Absolutely not! Why are people making numerous remakes of historical events which not only depicts child marriage, but also brutality with women, violence, cruelty and what not?

You will find numerous series and films based on World War 1 & 2 where you will find stories that would wrench you heart. Why are they still making these shows/films when we know those things were wrong and now we do not want to follow that ? are they doing it to promote negativity and all those things that happened in the past? No!

That's because if a show is depicting events which took place in past does not mean they are trying to promote it.

Promoting something mean glorifying the same thing on television and showing the viewers that this thing is right.

But what did the show Basrrister Babu do?

• They showed that an 8 year old girl was being tricked into marrying a 90 year old man. Does this mean glorifying child marriage?
• They showed that when the 90 year old man died even before completing the rituals, that little 8 year old girl was forced to perform Sati. Is that glorifying Sati pratha?
• After being married to the lead at such a tender age, she had to face wrath of the family due to her bed wetting problem. Does that "glorify" child marriage? Does that in any way show child marriages are good? Doesn't it actually depict how wrong it was?
• There was a track where the lead out rightly rejected attending a child marriage which was taking place. He clearly mentioned that it is wrong and he himself had to do marry Bondita only to stop a bigger mishap. Is this glorifying child marriage?
• Was it okay if the lead had not stopped Sati pratha and let that kid die? He married her to save her life, does this mean child marriage is being glorified?

The lead of the show tried to STOP not just the child marriage but also the Sati Pratha. When no one was ready to take the girl's responsibility, then the Lead had to marry her just to give her a place in the society as he promised to give her a life which she deserved.Is this glorifying child marriage? Was it okay if he had just taken her home with himself without marrying her? What ugly names would people have given in that case ? Even in 2021 it is a big deal, let alone 1920.

The Lead of the show himself is young and he strongly despises injustice with women. Since day 1 he is only shown fighting for Women rights. He is a man who is going against the society to not only educate that girl but also make her self sufficient and an independent woman. (Not just Bondita, he has done so much for other girls as well and even untouchables, which proves he is not only fighting for Women right but for Human rights on the whole)

Why are we not pointing out to such amazing things which this show is depicting? That guy left western culture to come back to his country and bring a change in society. Why are we not appreciating that?

You have never seen the show then Please listen to some of Anirudh's monologues on women, and then tell me what you feel they are glorifying ? I have personally never seen any ML say such apt and supportive things for women rights, and Anirudh not just says these things, he follows it as well.

So Bondita being married to Anirudh is just a way of telling the story and it is just a part of the show. The show is not about Anirudh and Bondita's "Love" story in any way and you will understand that very well if you watch the show. The Indian audience are sensible enough to understand that the events are taking place in the past.

Also, about promoting things, what about the reality/fictional TV shows that are showing violence, abuse, ladai jhhagda, planning and plotting all day? Is that not called promoting wrong things ?

I think it is high time we should support such bold ITV shows like Barrister Babu which are trying to do something different at least 👍🏼

+ Infinity ❤️

Couldn't agree more👍🏼

I know It's easier to judge other people's hard work sitting in home under the blanket but we should at least get the facts right while judging 🤔

I would just like to say that commenting on any show or moral messages given out by it , without even watching it is not correct.

The fact that the show is successfully running for more than a year ,itself speaks for something right..The audiences as well as channels and industry wont be promoting something inncorrect for such a long time right?

Infact barrister babu is a special and unique show not having any routine drama plots frequently shown on ITV dramas!!

The main lead himself has opposed views on child marraige and is fighting d society for rights of women. It actually shows how we have to deal with unwarranted situations in life and still stand for whats right.

And regarding any couple angle.. it was made clear from start of the show that husband wife relationship was only a means for bringing about a change in d society.Other people making comments or imaginary ships is a audience issue and not the shows fault. What u take from a show is purely audience point of view..There are 100 positive things shown which are being conviniently ignored.

Originally posted by: Toto123

I would just like to say that commenting on any show or moral messages given out by it , without even watching it is not correct.

The fact that the show is successfully running for more than a year ,itself speaks for something right..The audiences as well as channels and industry wont be promoting something inncorrect for such a long time right?

Infact barrister babu is a special and unique show not having any routine drama plots frequently shown on ITV dramas!!

The main lead himself has opposed views on child marraige and is fighting d society for rights of women. It actually shows how we have to deal with unwarranted situations in life and still stand for whats right.

And regarding any couple angle.. it was made clear from start of the show that husband wife relationship was only a means for bringing about a change in d society.Other people making comments or imaginary ships is a audience issue and not the shows fault. What u take from a show is purely audience point of view..There are 100 positive things shown which are being conviniently ignored.

+Infinity!

Idk why people are always looking for wrong things in good shows 😭

Originally posted by: ..RiMi..

+Infinity!

Idk why people are always looking for wrong things in good shows 😭

Because they would rather watch shows like Kasauti Rone Dhone ki with pretty-overdressed vamps who will try to kill the FL at least 100 times 😂😂😂😂

My fellow BB'ians said it all 😳

Whatever the other show were discussed here with barrister babu..! Trust me BB is totally different from all.!

First of all this show isn't glorifying child marriage...! Concept is totally different and they are showing the difficulties of women faced in pre independence era in the name of rituals and societal norms.!

170+ episodes aired already in BB..! I will suggest to watch any 10 episodes from the show.! If anyone find any uncomfortable scenes between the leads ,then can complaint about it ( I'm sure there is no such scenes...infact you will fall in love with their cuteness) the guy who plays husband to the girl has took responsibility of her and trying his best to give her all necessities , making her independent girl and educating her to be a barrister ( that was also the girls wish ) in future to fight with him against the societal norms.!

They aren't showing anything unnatural in this serial.! This is all happened 100 Yrs back...! Our great great grandparents would have gone through this and fought for us to get a peaceful and independent life which we are getting now.! This show is all about that ⭐️

If possible do watch and give reviews 😃

Originally posted by: ..RiMi..

@Bold - What makes you say that and in what way are they promoting child marriage? Just by the promos you cannot tell what they are showing in the show right? 😊

I have no idea about PPK because I never watched it. I am here just to comment on Barrister Babu. I don't think it even makes sense to compare these two shows.

So, when we watch a mythological drama, or a historical show, we see many traits of the Indian society which were wrong that time... do we question such shows then? 😆Absolutely not! Why are people making numerous remakes of historical events which not only depicts child marriage, but also brutality with women, violence, cruelty and what not?

You will find numerous series and films based on World War 1 & 2 where you will find stories that would wrench you heart. Why are they still making these shows/films when we know those things were wrong and now we do not want to follow that ? are they doing it to promote negativity and all those things that happened in the past? No!

That's because if a show is depicting events which took place in past does not mean they are trying to promote it.

Promoting something mean glorifying the same thing on television and showing the viewers that this thing is right.

But what did the show Basrrister Babu do?

• They showed that an 8 year old girl was being tricked into marrying a 90 year old man. Does this mean glorifying child marriage?
• They showed that when the 90 year old man died even before completing the rituals, that little 8 year old girl was forced to perform Sati. Is that glorifying Sati pratha?
• After being married to the lead at such a tender age, she had to face wrath of the family due to her bed wetting problem. Does that "glorify" child marriage? Does that in any way show child marriages are good? Doesn't it actually depict how wrong it was?
• There was a track where the lead out rightly rejected attending a child marriage which was taking place. He clearly mentioned that it is wrong and he himself had to do marry Bondita only to stop a bigger mishap. Is this glorifying child marriage?
• Was it okay if the lead had not stopped Sati pratha and let that kid die? He married her to save her life, does this mean child marriage is being glorified?

The lead of the show tried to STOP not just the child marriage but also the Sati Pratha. When no one was ready to take the girl's responsibility, then the Lead had to marry her just to give her a place in the society as he promised to give her a life which she deserved.Is this glorifying child marriage? Was it okay if he had just taken her home with himself without marrying her? What ugly names would people have given in that case ? Even in 2021 it is a big deal, let alone 1920.

The Lead of the show himself is young and he strongly despises injustice with women. Since day 1 he is only shown fighting for Women rights. He is a man who is going against the society to not only educate that girl but also make her self sufficient and an independent woman. (Not just Bondita, he has done so much for other girls as well and even untouchables, which proves he is not only fighting for Women right but for Human rights on the whole)

Why are we not pointing out to such amazing things which this show is depicting? That guy left western culture to come back to his country and bring a change in society. Why are we not appreciating that?

You have never seen the show then Please listen to some of Anirudh's monologues on women, and then tell me what you feel they are glorifying ? I have personally never seen any ML say such apt and supportive things for women rights, and Anirudh not just says these things, he follows it as well.

So Bondita being married to Anirudh is just a way of telling the story and it is just a part of the show. The show is not about Anirudh and Bondita's "Love" story in any way and you will understand that very well if you watch the show. The Indian audience are sensible enough to understand that the events are taking place in the past.

Also, about promoting things, what about the reality/fictional TV shows that are showing violence, abuse, ladai jhhagda, planning and plotting all day? Is that not called promoting wrong things ?

I think it is high time we should support such bold ITV shows like Barrister Babu which are trying to do something different at least 👍🏼

Very well written my dear 👍🏼

I think people nowadays need to under what need to be shown and how that need to be shown rather than just looking for something to degrade the entire storyline without even looking for what is actually being told ans depicted.

This is really shocking to me when I see educated people of our so called society still believe and thinking in such a way. All they just look for same old typical drama and enjoy kitchen politics.

Rather then cherishing something thatbis more empowering. Somethings which is actually educating and uplifting. They don’t digest these things.

Seems they all are still living in 1920 era.

I've gone through all 5 pages and followed the discussion keenly. There are some interesting points that have been brought up, and I really appreciate the social awareness of the IF members.

Everyone has the right to have her own perception on some issues and she has the right to express it, please try to understand the POV of the other person as well.

First and foremost ----

1. Mocking and passing snide comments are against Forum rules.

2. Do not bring other shows' characters apart from the 2 mentioned in the TM thread from BB into the discussion.

3. Avoid comparing the past with the present shows.

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This story belongs to the past, reflecting the societal norms of 100 years back society when Sati was prevalent, child marriages were the acceptable norm, age gaps were irrelevant in those days. Don't compare the past with the present-day societal norms.

Every serial has its own storyline which defines the characters and their lifestyles. If the story belongs to the 1920s, don't compare it with present-day circumstances.

Every era has it's pros and cons .... we are moving forward, towards the so-called progressive society! An occasional remembrance/ recollections of our past through such serials will give us a clear cut picture of those days' sufferings of women.

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